Still cannot interact with environment or use doors while steathed in PVP land!!
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mrtrask23
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Um was this intended, cannot use doors, resources nodes, transit shrine while in crouch/stealth, please go back to the way it was
Edited by mrtrask23 on June 20, 2019 6:18PM 6
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jdamuso✭✭✭✭Um was this intended, cannot use doors, resources nodes, transit shrine while in crouch/stealth, please go back to the way it was
I do not know this was intended, however i think it should have been intended.
Hypothetically in the real world if you were an invisible man, and you wanted to go through a door, you have to still open the door, and thus you would be detected. If you picked a flower the flower would start floating in the air untill it made it to your pocket, and thus you would be detected.
Im assuming this is intended as doors do not open, and flowers do not float.0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭cant interact with the environment at all while stealthed in pvp areas, this has never been the case and was not in the patch notes.
was it intended zenimax?
if was or not please respond to us.1 -
mrtrask23✭✭✭The normal mechanic in the game is your briefly become visible when doing these things, but do not have to come completely out of crouch in order to interact with items. In PvP land you cannot use the door or harvest a node or use a transit shrine unless you completely toggling from crouch to normal. Making NB class severely hampered in PVP4
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Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I believe this was intended. In PvE you can still use doors etc while in stealth, but in PvP you can't. I do believe this was an intended stealth nerf.Edited by Ackwalan on June 20, 2019 8:40PM2 -
Palidon✭✭✭✭✭
✭If not being able to interact with doors or the environment in PvP was intended then ZOS you should say so. Prior to the 6/10/19 patch players could interact with doors and the environment and there was nothing mentioned in the patch that stated there was a change. ZOS it is a simple question to answer Yes or No. If the answer is No then why has it not been fixed. If the answer is yes then at least state why. I for one do not understand the silence on this issue. There has been a pattern of you being silent on numerous questions asked in forum threads. That should not happen support is important in any game.5 -
Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Very annoying feature/bug/nonsense now it's much harder to stealthily enter a keep to defend it or even leave a keep to surprise the enemy (can deal with fall damage to maintain the element of surprise).(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistSpoilerElectric-StunElectric-PetsSpoilerhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gif- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
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- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
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- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
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- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
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- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
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- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
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- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
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- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
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- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
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- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I believe this was intended. In PvE you can still use doors etc while in stealth, but in PvP you can't. I do believe this was an intended stealth nerf.
i am starting to believe you are correct.
horrible.
they are listening to the people wanting stealth removed and they will be removing stealth and invisibility, this is just phase 1.
more to come untill stealth is gone completely.
i will then be leaving eso.
only reason i am here is for stealth gameplay that has a bit of elderscrolls feel to it.
but since those things are leaving, i will leave along with them.
Edited by Gilvoth on June 21, 2019 4:19PM3 -
dotme✭✭✭✭✭
✭If intended, was it in the patch notes and we all missed it?
Sneaking out of a gate to torch an enemy ram is nearly impossible now. I know it's a complicated game, but a change like this should have at least been documented and mentioned in the release notes.PS4NA2 -
Palidon✭✭✭✭✭
✭If intended, was it in the patch notes and we all missed it?
Sneaking out of a gate to torch an enemy ram is nearly impossible now. I know it's a complicated game, but a change like this should have at least been documented and mentioned in the release notes.
This bug started after the patch on 6/10/19 and there was no mention of it in those notes at all. So I do not think it was intended. I have sent in a ticket on it asking ZOS what was going on. I have also asked in the forums ( Is not being able to interact with doors and nodes in Cyro while in stealth intended or a bug). They never replied which seems to be the norm with ZOS. There is no way they have not seen this thread or the questions asked. Figure they just don't care.2 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have the opposite problem. When I use a door I go in, come out, go in, and come back out again3 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭I have the opposite problem. When I use a door I go in, come out, go in, and come back out again
Its very annoying and happening a lot more recently too. Nothing like playing peekaboo at a keep front door when all your trying to do is get inside to set up siege to slow the oncoming assualt .....
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geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭just noticed this last night when I was trying to sneak out the front door to go burn some enemy siege...
definitely a serious wtf moment...unless you're a nightblade really hard to slink away after torching someone's sieges...
ran in to it a little later trying to stay in stealth and grab a chest after finishing the dolman over by nikel...
yeah, me no like...
if I had to place a bet - I'd say: unintended, now intended, zos feature...
seriously though, seemingly pretty impactful change that didn't warrant any mention from zos...sadly, how not so very odd...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place1 -
Vietfox✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yeah it's annoying.
Since i main a magblade and can't cross a door while crouching i'm just placing shadow image before opening the gate, just in case
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Palidon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Apparently the change was intended. For what reason who knows. ZOS never even bothered to notify players of the change or the reason why by making a public announcement. At this point it no longer matters. I am sick and tired of the direction they have taken their game. My subscription has been cancelled. I will still play ESO but they will no longer get any money out of me.0 -
dtsharples✭✭✭✭✭What makes you say that it was intended? Especially if like you say they have not made any formal announcement regarding it yet?
Have you some inside knowledge, because it really would be great to get some feedback on it 0 -
Palidon✭✭✭✭✭
✭dtsharples wrote: »What makes you say that it was intended? Especially if like you say they have not made any formal announcement regarding it yet?
Have you some inside knowledge, because it really would be great to get some feedback on it
Apparently it was answered in another notice from ZOS according to a several fellow guild members of mine. Cannot confirm or deny it. However, I find it quite odd that ZOS has not responded to this or other threads concerning this matter. I also put in a ticket on this issue right after the 6/10/19 patch when the stealth problem started in PvP. I still have not got a reply.1 -
Katastrophia✭✭The least they could do is make it to where you don’t have to hit the prompt 5 times to enter the door if you can’t open it while crouched1
