The most practical solution is to form a premade group that communicates well in voice comms and then you can be one of the teams that the randoms complain about...

And the game after getting booted was one that didn't start because one of the teams couldn't get 3 players. Unbelievable.

msalvia wrote: »

This is gonna sound elitist (and it probably is) but a big issue with recent rough pugs is that a lot of new people are playing / returning to the game since Elsewyr. BGs are just especially lopsided, as a premade is gonna win 99% of the time against a pug group. It's like comparing a vetted guild run on vMoL and a Craglorn pug, but if those groups had to fight one another. Those other teams sure look like premades to me (or at least all relatively competent pvpers).

Even pug dungeons and trials have been really rough lately, And while I know it's harder in pvp / BGs to give/receive criticism, all we can do is try to help the noobs improve.

BGs supposedly have MMR. [snip]

[Edit for bait.]

VaranisArano wrote: »

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

And the game after getting booted was one that didn't start because one of the teams couldn't get 3 players. Unbelievable.

msalvia wrote: »

This is gonna sound elitist (and it probably is) but a big issue with recent rough pugs is that a lot of new people are playing / returning to the game since Elsewyr. BGs are just especially lopsided, as a premade is gonna win 99% of the time against a pug group. It's like comparing a vetted guild run on vMoL and a Craglorn pug, but if those groups had to fight one another. Those other teams sure look like premades to me (or at least all relatively competent pvpers).

Even pug dungeons and trials have been really rough lately, And while I know it's harder in pvp / BGs to give/receive criticism, all we can do is try to help the noobs improve.

BGs supposedly have MMR. Noobs shouldn't be a game with me to begin with.

MMR doesn't reset when you transition from Level 10-49 BGs to Level 50 ones. So anyone who leveled up a new character through Battlegrounds and has high MMR from that gets thrown in with the high MMR players as soon as they hit 50.

That sucks for everyone involved.

Agreed. When I play my stamcro I feel sorry for my team mates.

About the issue, I’ve noticed a ton more glass canon sorcs and NBs.

One you can work around and still pull off a win. Two though and it’s damn near impossible.

They’ll do BGs and use their team as a shield and be the first to run from an engagement. Worst are probably sorcs; they’ll spam their execute and kill steal the team’s kills and go 10-2 and you just know afterwards they left thinking they lost because they got a bad team.

I’m finding an influx of players who listened to the ‘play sorc if you want to BG’. I mean if you want to play that way fine, but I don’t like losing and want them on someone else’s team.

ChunkyCat wrote: »

I’ll group with you - for the low price of 100k per match.

BG mercenaries, that’s a new concept and I love it, lol.