Zos saying quitting threads are now against the forum rules? Angry Rant Warning

Stellarvorous · June 2019

@KoultouraS while I appreciate the vote of confidence at times yes I can be polite I can be calm collected and respectful but other times I can be an outright *** because that's what I am no denial no hiding from the truth

When I first got on the forums id defend zos too over some issues and at certain times I still will when it comes to certain things and yes I understand there is a time and a place to be nice and play nice also being an ass doesn't always get the intended effect or result

But I am also a firm believer that sometimes you have be an *** to get taken seriously and get the issues resolved plenty have come before me on the forums and played nice respectable constructive and these issues are still here

That being said "imo" now is the time to start kicking up some dirt at Zos about these issues since other methods havnt worked and im rolling out the khajiit mudballs but disclaimer they aren't really mudballs

Turelus · June 2019

Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Stellarvorous wrote: »

You know what else spreads negativity lol? locking and closing threads especially when it comes to these issues

They only locked the ones which broke rules or went off the rails. There are plenty of multiple pages threads about issues still active.

And yet there are multiple issues that have been problems for YEARS and have never actually been addressed and fixed....

Agreed. However that doesn't mean we should run the narrative that ZOS locks threads on issues they don't want to deal with.

I am not going to defend ZOS on all issues, but I will fight against misinformation and unwarranted abuse towards them.

Threads that shine a bright light on ESO's major long standing issues, ZOS looks for ANY excuse to lock them. This honestly is common knowledge on these forums.

I agree however that insulting ZOS, and ZOS employees is completely unacceptable.

I disagree. ZOS leaves loads of threads which make the game and and company look bad open. They only lock them because after a point the actual conversation stops and it becomes pages of people making snide remarks or just smacking the company/staff.

Everyone likes to think ZOS has some plan to lock every thread which makes them look bad because it fits their narrative, but the evidence is there of plenty of threads which remained civil and on topic staying open.
If the threads important to your issues keep getting locked, don't blame ZOS blame the people who keep screwing the threads up with their non-constructive posting in every thread on the issue. The people who jump to every issue thread and sprout rubbish, snark and toxic posts to rile everyone up more or vent their frustrations. They are the reason threads are locked, not because ZOS doesn't like what you're saying.

corpseblade · June 2019

Stellarvorous wrote: »

@Turelus as its been stated plenty of people have made constructive threads regarding the issues and nothing has changed bumping them to keep them alive has yielded no results

While I can agree with you to an extent giving them *** for it solves nothing correct 100% but going off what we know about the issues still being here plenty have played nice and we still don't have *** to show for it so at this point what is the difference

If being an ass and being nice get the same result from zos then where does that leave us lol plenty of folks have bumped threads they played nice nothing happened

I wager most folks at this point when it comes to performance aren't looking for conversation their looking for action/results

And sure cancelling subs hits them in the wallet but only for so long

"If you want change, vote with your wallet as they say. If you want conversation, stop acting like an angry mob of edgy teens and start keeping issue threads alive without the snark and abuse. Keep it in front of them so it can't be ignored, but also don't make it something they're not going to bother to read."

We have voted we made it public that were cancelling our subs and most likely taking a break from the game for an extended period of time because of the performance issues

They ignored those threads performance threads regardless of them being bumped and constructive and went after the folks quitting and canceling subs based threads because that's clearly what they care about

So your words of play nice fall on deaf ears

Genuinely curious. If you have quit the game, why are you still posting on the forums? Why haven't you moved on as most of you threaten?

It's like you had a bad relationship break-up but you just can't let it go and keep texting them. If any product, not just mmos, fails to meet your needs find something that does.

Personally it makes sense to me for the company to focus on who and what is making them money. Thus, the "I quit" or "I cancel my subscription" posters lose any leverage they thought they might have been gaining with these posts.

In any event, most of these posts aren't all productive discussions. People post in anger and it devolves into insults thrown back and forth between players. The ugliness leads the mods to sensibly close it down.

BigBragg · June 2019

What I don't appreciate is falsely closing thread that aren't quitting threads. Like one early that simply said somebody was dropping ESO+, yet made no mention of quitting the game. I have seen things similar to this a handful of times. Seems they are using the quitting excuse to close threads by people who no longer wish to give them money.

Alas this will get closed because they don't allow threads that discuss moderation.

Jeremy · June 2019

Stellarvorous wrote: »

So quitting threads are against the forum rules now? that's a new one

Yeah im probably going to get banned from the forums for doing this it probably wont help anything but o well when I saw this *** I knew I had to do it whether others agree or not *IMO* it needs to be done to get the idea across to Zos sweeping issues under the rug and closing/locking threads that bring up issues with the game only pisses people off.

ZOS_GregoryV
mod

Greetings,

We have decided to close this thread as we do not allow quitting threads on our forums. Quitting threads are against the rules that we have in place as they tend to get bad quick. If there may be any questions in regards to the rules, please feel free to review them here.

Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg-

This reply was sent in regards to different thread where another player said he was cancelling his sub due to the poor performance of the game So zos this is what the *** your doing now? People cant make a thread about quitting the game due to *** performance? maybe if yal fixed your *** game lol we wouldn't have so many these threads hrmm?

The forums are known for toxicity that's a given but what I cant understand is you guys are so fast to lock and close peoples threads when they bring up issues that show you failing at your jobs but when it comes to actually fixing things its ok we will do that next year unless we can get it in the crown store for 5k crowns hue

Ill keep this last part short and sweet
Firstly *** your forum rules
2ndly *** you Zos for your *** handling of the game performance ….
*** you for the forum moderation which is conveniently molded to shield you from the outcry of players trying to get you to understand your game performance is driving players away from the game

And last but not least *** you Mr Greggory for being the *** head mod that closed that thread because the player said he was quitting due to the sub par performance of the game

Oh and to the mod that closes this thread yes i know your going to close it because it violates the "forum rules" yes I know it isn't constructive and yes im aware im not "allowed" to say *** about your mods *** YOU anyways

Thank you for your understanding
-@Stellarvorous-

Anything that is deemed "unproductive" is against the forum rules. Which translates into anything they say - because what is or isn't "productive" is probably about as subjective as it gets. What I try to do is go over my posts several times after typing them and coat them in sugar. That seems to help - at least usually. So you may want to try that strategy.

Profanity laced rants like this are just going to get you banned. Trust me, I know this from experience. lol

Turelus · June 2019

BigBragg wrote: »

What I don't appreciate is falsely closing thread that aren't quitting threads. Like one early that simply said somebody was dropping ESO+, yet made no mention of quitting the game. I have seen things similar to this a handful of times. Seems they are using the quitting excuse to close threads by people who no longer wish to give them money.

Alas this will get closed because they don't allow threads that discuss moderation.

OP just needs to appeal to the mod who closed it and make a case.

Stellarvorous · June 2019

@corpseblade I have unsubbed which is a different from outright quitting the thread wasn't really started on me specifically it was in regards to another player who also said he unsubbed and thus that thread was closed/locked

But that's also 1 of the issues the mods "sensibly close the threads" as a few here have stated the mods look for any real reason to close the threads when a case is made against Zos failing at certain aspects of the game especially performance.

Even when the threads are constructive and people try to bump them they end up fading into the abyss of the forums till another person comes along and tries to speak on the same issues.

Granted as I stated in my opener I know how im going about this isn't a constructive or polite way it wasn't my intend to be as such plenty have done it and we still have the same issues even know im aware my way isn't going to yield any better results

If I were 100% certain making a real thread constructively and politely worded directed at zos inquiring about these issues with get results then sure id make one but at this point im pretty sure nothing will change even if I do

Rowjoh · June 2019

rambling ranty threats to quit the game carry no weight at all. They are just laughable.

what can make a real difference is a well thought out, articulated synopsis of an issue, frustration or complaint.

BigBragg · June 2019

Turelus wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

What I don't appreciate is falsely closing thread that aren't quitting threads. Like one early that simply said somebody was dropping ESO+, yet made no mention of quitting the game. I have seen things similar to this a handful of times. Seems they are using the quitting excuse to close threads by people who no longer wish to give them money.

Alas this will get closed because they don't allow threads that discuss moderation.

OP just needs to appeal to the mod who closed it and make a case.

By the time that gets sorted out the thread will be well off the front page, and traction on the conversation will be lost.

Stellarvorous · June 2019

@Turelus At this point I don't believe in trying to appeal to the devs the issues regarding the threads being closed is just a symptom of the bad performance in the game which is the real issue the keeps getting dodged by Zos

And as someone else stated ill likely get banned from the forums and possibly the game I fully understand and accept that reality if it happens truth is if I get banned for this in a way it works out because I wont have to worry about the performance issues because I wont be able to log on lol

Also yes iv no denial about my chosen actions here regardless of how many people disagree with me about it zos is more than within their rights to ban me from the forums and the game that being said I still choose this course of action as I feel it is needed.

Maybe if they see me willing to be banned over it they will finally understand how displeased many folks are when it comes to the performance of the game currently if they ban me and still fix the issues even though I cant play anymore I still count it as a victory

Stellarvorous · June 2019

Rant aside its getting late and everytime someone replies I keep checking and updating my replies as exciting as it is going on 2am vegas time safe bet my possible forum/account ban wont happen for a while and this thread might live for another 8 hours before its closed so im calling it for now

Ill check back later on "Today" to see what the result was if yal wana keep bumping it up by all means but we all know whats gona happen its gona get closed or back logged iv said my peace time for sleep farewell

Turelus · June 2019

You won't get banned from the forums for this, people have done far worse and still post daily.

They will just lock the thread and maybe mail you a warning.

sudaki_eso · June 2019

Dont say you are quitting, be creative, post a thread saying you will stop playing and are looking for someone to give all your stuff

If you are on a PS4EU, please consider me, i can use all your stuff

Coatmagic · June 2019

Meh. I posted what I thought was a cute meme and a couple people felt 'attacked' by it (I guess?) so there were like 2 nasty responses and instead of tidying it up it was locked.

With all the toxic crap on these forums that's the thread they close o.O

I let it be known that I was disgruntled and was basically told to go tell someone who cares xD

Sweeping things under the rug heh, not really. There's plenty of nastiness toward them on these forums as it is.

MaxJrFTW · June 2019

The mods here are pretty chill tbh.

NeillMcAttack · June 2019

It was always the case, going way back.

But is it the same to say that you are cancelling your sub!?

commodore64 · June 2019

logarifmik · June 2019

Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Stellarvorous wrote: »

You know what else spreads negativity lol? locking and closing threads especially when it comes to these issues

They only locked the ones which broke rules or went off the rails. There are plenty of multiple pages threads about issues still active.

And yet there are multiple issues that have been problems for YEARS and have never actually been addressed and fixed....

There are indeed, and I think that this is a good enough reason for frustration. More than that, new such reasons come with new updates, and most of the time all we get as an answer from ZOS is silence or some stupid statements about art-policy. It's become ridiculous.

theyancey · June 2019

Quitting threads have been a non starter since the beginning. So are threads calling out mods and their actions. This one will be closed too.

ZOS_RogerJ · June 2019

We understand that sometimes people will leave the ESO community, and want to post a “goodbye” or “quitting” thread. Generally, we have found that “goodbye” and “quitting” threads have a tendency to go downhill fast. It is our policy to read the feedback in “goodbye” and “quitting” threads and close them, regardless of whether they are constructive or not.

In addition, if you ever have questions or concerns about a disciplinary action or decision we have made on the ESO forums, or wish to appeal a forum warning or infraction you’ve received, we ask that you please contact https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/ to do so (please specify that you are contacting about a forum-related inquiry or appeal).

*Zos saying quitting threads are now against the forum rules?* Angry Rant Warning

Zos saying quitting threads are now against the forum rules? Angry Rant Warning