Sign sign everywhere a sign

kryda · June 2019

Imperial City - severed ties to Cyrodiil
MidYear Mayhem - not rescheduled, but replaced
Number of PvP dlcs - zero
Impact ESO subscription has on PvP - zero (not even bonus ap)
Time spent talking up Cyrodiil by devs - 78 ms per quarter
Campaign names - can’t be pronounced
PvP is being phased out. Prove me wrong.

MakeMeUhSamich · June 2019

Good riddance?

/ducks

ilcavallo · June 2019

There is no difficult end game content without PVP

Matthew_Galvanus · June 2019

ilcavallo wrote: »

There is no difficult end game content without PVP

says the guy who has probably never attempted any dlc dungeon on veteran+hard mode

ArchMikem · June 2019

You can't pronounce kaalgrontiid?

call-grahn-teed

yole-nah-kreen

moo-lahm-neer

bah-loke-dahn

Matthew_Galvanus · June 2019

also no, they arent ditching PvP. i honestly wish they would (please calm yourselves, i know it's not realistic) because i don't enjoy it at all, however pretty much all the combat balances are focused around pvp, with pve taking a backseat,so i doubt its ever getting shut down

NordSwordnBoard · June 2019

1 IC population no longer affects a campaign it has no bearing on.
2 This is bad, I'll miss the gold jewelry but not the que times. Enough threads already on this.
3 See #1 IC was the only PvP dlc.
4 ESO+ helps PvPers who dont want to spend gold on bank or bag space. It also allows them to get DLC Monster helms w/o buying the dlc.
5 Who's counting what?
6 They are only hard to pronounce for some people.
7 PvP is not being phased out, unless you're saving the best "proof" for last.

JamieAubrey · June 2019

If they want to push me away with slowly getting rid of PvP just add the Dab emote now and save me the bother down the line

kryda · June 2019

If combat balances center around PvP that means PvP was ignored in development. Thereby creating a circle where the devs miss something. The community complains. The ZOS bosses come down on the devs. The devs get mad. Therefore the devs hate PvP. Now there’s an active network of individuals working at ZOS that either consciously or subconsciously hate PvP.

HiLyfe808 · June 2019

The drama lol. They aren't phasing out pvp, like pvp or not it's fun. The performance issues that plagues it is not so fun. Whether or not people agree pvp is a big part of ESO, coming from a mainly pve'er. It would be nice to get bonus AP from being a sub, but then people would argue it's "pay to win" cause anything at this point can be argued a P2W.

Also we just had a midyear in January it's not like last summer was the last one we had. I really don't know what else "PvP dlc" they can release. Unless they make separate servers and make the whole pve zones pvp.

MartiniDaniels · June 2019

kryda wrote: »

Imperial City - severed ties to Cyrodiil
MidYear Mayhem - not rescheduled, but replaced
Number of PvP dlcs - zero
Impact ESO subscription has on PvP - zero (not even bonus ap)
Time spent talking up Cyrodiil by devs - 78 ms per quarter
Campaign names - can’t be pronounced
PvP is being phased out. Prove me wrong.

I can easily prove you wrong from PVE point of view. During last 12 month, changes to gameplay for sake of PVP balancing:
- shields - severely nerfed - yeah PVP sorcs adapted, but you can't adapt same way in PVE without losing ton of dps
- passive dodge used by Tava tanks - removed
- wings used for extreme fun on DKs - removed
- long combat major expedition like warden wings - removed
- full one-hand enchants - removed
- ability to apply permanent immobilization on mobs - removed
- argonians and bosmers race identity - removed
- stable lag and fps in trials - removed

So you may say that both PVP and PVE are phased out. Only thing ZOS cares about are influx of new players who will be amazed by kitten merchants and so will start buying everything they see in crown store, thinking that game will be of same quality as Elsweyr overland in all volume.

Runefang · June 2019

ilcavallo wrote: »

There is no difficult end game content without PVP

Is that why almost all PvP videos on YT are "OMG check out this 1 v X!"?

HiLyfe808 · June 2019

I can easily prove you wrong from PVE point of view. During last 12 month, changes to gameplay for sake of PVP balancing:
- shields - severely nerfed - yeah PVP sorcs adapted, but you can't adapt same way in PVE without losing ton of dps
- passive dodge used by Tava tanks - removed
- wings used for extreme fun on DKs - removed
- long combat major expedition like warden wings - removed
- full one-hand enchants - removed
- ability to apply permanent immobilization on mobs - removed
- argonians and bosmers race identity - removed
- stable lag and fps in trials - removed

So you may say that both PVP and PVE are phased out. Only thing ZOS cares about are influx of new players who will be amazed by kitten merchants and so will start buying everything they see in crown store, thinking that game will be of same quality as Elsweyr overland in all volume.

I meannnnnn your not wrong #onpoint

kryda · June 2019

PvP is the scapegoat for those changes. ZOS isn’t that shortsighted. Most likely those changes make way for a new class or other crown sink.

ZOS_GregoryV · June 2019

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