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  • VaranisArano
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    monk222 wrote: »
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    monk222 wrote: »
    majulook wrote: »
    Look, Look, Jingle,Jingle, Shiny keys... Trying to make players forget about game issues... Along with a Marketing attempt to sell DLC's, and maybe some ESO+...

    They specifically stated that it is because of in game issues that they are holding this event instead.

    There have been “in-game” issues in PVP for like years now. Never stopped them from running the event before. Heck, the group finder wasn’t working either yet they ran the random dungeon event. Mind boggling decisions these days from the devs.

    There were a lot of complaints about that event because of issues with group finder. So you want them to listen to complaints to fix server issues but not listen to complaints about events not working properly?

    Well, more like we want them to fix the servers and game infrastructure SO that events work properly...

    Well, we've been wanting them to fix it. Been warning them to fix it.

    The BG queue problem has been known for at least a year. The Groupfinder problems where it breaks under heavy load have been known for a least 2 years. This isnt a new problem, even though its gotten worse in the last 6 months.
    Edited by VaranisArano on June 27, 2019 4:39PM
  • LordLomax
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    Well i won’t be Doing this rubbish event . Why cancel mid year mayhem was looking forward to it . Get crap bonus event instead no one likes ?
  • goldenarcher1
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    Pray they do not alter the deal further...


    Oh,go on then. :D

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  • BigBragg
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    BigBragg wrote: »
    This is a loose, loose situation for PvPers. Thanks for that...

    I was really looking forward to Midyear Meyham, but also dreading it for all of the exacerbated issues. What had it been three years since the first Cyrodiil event, that was supposed to collect data in an effort to improve performance? Putting this off another year, just feel like ZOS is putting off the entire community, as performance issues are now being felt far and wide outside of Cyrodiil.

    BG queues not working a significant amount of time is also just as bad as Dungeon Finder not working. Except with BGs we can't just form our own groups and avoid the system.

    I would ask if there will be solutions by next year, even thought waiting longer as it has already been years on these seems absurd. Like who are we kidding at this point. Just say you have no intention of addressing the problems.

    Then you can devote everything to pumping out overland and Crown Store content. I mean isn't that just about where we are anyway?

  • The_Lex
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    I'm skipping this event. I know a lot of people enjoy DB and TG, but I find those quests in ESO to be repetitive and rather dull. I love the guilds in the single player games, but not in ESO. My opinion.

    Side note, I find it telling that the stated reason for canceling the Mid-Year Mayhem event was the GF. What about open world Cyro? This smacks of ignoring issue that people (including myself) consider to be greater and have been pleading with ZOS for information (but receiving none). As a PvP player, I feel purposely ignored.

    Edited by The_Lex on June 27, 2019 4:47PM
  • monk222
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    monk222 wrote: »
    gp1680 wrote: »
    monk222 wrote: »
    majulook wrote: »
    Look, Look, Jingle,Jingle, Shiny keys... Trying to make players forget about game issues... Along with a Marketing attempt to sell DLC's, and maybe some ESO+...

    They specifically stated that it is because of in game issues that they are holding this event instead.

    There have been “in-game” issues in PVP for like years now. Never stopped them from running the event before. Heck, the group finder wasn’t working either yet they ran the random dungeon event. Mind boggling decisions these days from the devs.

    There were a lot of complaints about that event because of issues with group finder. So you want them to listen to complaints to fix server issues but not listen to complaints about events not working properly?

    Well, more like we want them to fix the servers and game infrastructure SO that events work properly...

    Well, we've been wanting them to fix it. Been warning them to fix it.

    The BG queue problem has been known for at least a year. The Groupfinder problems where it breaks under heavy load have been known for a least 2 years. This isnt a new problem, even though its gotten worse in the last 6 months.

    I think everyone wants that. But why would people want them to go forward with an event that will not work properly, and why would the devs have any incentive to do that knowing that people will only complain about it?
  • The_Lex
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    monk222 wrote: »
    monk222 wrote: »
    gp1680 wrote: »
    monk222 wrote: »
    majulook wrote: »
    Look, Look, Jingle,Jingle, Shiny keys... Trying to make players forget about game issues... Along with a Marketing attempt to sell DLC's, and maybe some ESO+...

    They specifically stated that it is because of in game issues that they are holding this event instead.

    There have been “in-game” issues in PVP for like years now. Never stopped them from running the event before. Heck, the group finder wasn’t working either yet they ran the random dungeon event. Mind boggling decisions these days from the devs.

    There were a lot of complaints about that event because of issues with group finder. So you want them to listen to complaints to fix server issues but not listen to complaints about events not working properly?

    Well, more like we want them to fix the servers and game infrastructure SO that events work properly...

    Well, we've been wanting them to fix it. Been warning them to fix it.

    The BG queue problem has been known for at least a year. The Groupfinder problems where it breaks under heavy load have been known for a least 2 years. This isnt a new problem, even though its gotten worse in the last 6 months.

    I think everyone wants that. But why would people want them to go forward with an event that will not work properly, and why would the devs have any incentive to do that knowing that people will only complain about it?

    That's fair. But we're given zero info on where they're at. To make matters worse, they failed to acknowledge the open world Cyro, which imo, is far worse for the event. The BG situation can be overcome in other ways. You can;t tell me that open world Cyro isn't on the top of the list of reasons to cancel this event. Yet, they said nothing about it. Why? Because ZOS refuses to engage us in our concerns.

    Edited by The_Lex on June 27, 2019 4:49PM
  • rumple9
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    Ppl can still goto cyro and IC without an event invite ....

    Only missing out on double AP which is largely worthless anyway
  • VaranisArano
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    monk222 wrote: »
    monk222 wrote: »
    gp1680 wrote: »
    monk222 wrote: »
    majulook wrote: »
    Look, Look, Jingle,Jingle, Shiny keys... Trying to make players forget about game issues... Along with a Marketing attempt to sell DLC's, and maybe some ESO+...

    They specifically stated that it is because of in game issues that they are holding this event instead.

    There have been “in-game” issues in PVP for like years now. Never stopped them from running the event before. Heck, the group finder wasn’t working either yet they ran the random dungeon event. Mind boggling decisions these days from the devs.

    There were a lot of complaints about that event because of issues with group finder. So you want them to listen to complaints to fix server issues but not listen to complaints about events not working properly?

    Well, more like we want them to fix the servers and game infrastructure SO that events work properly...

    Well, we've been wanting them to fix it. Been warning them to fix it.

    The BG queue problem has been known for at least a year. The Groupfinder problems where it breaks under heavy load have been known for a least 2 years. This isnt a new problem, even though its gotten worse in the last 6 months.

    I think everyone wants that. But why would people want them to go forward with an event that will not work properly, and why would the devs have any incentive to do that knowing that people will only complain about it?

    There are some reasons to want it to go ahead. Maybe not convincing reasons to ZOS, but I understand them.

    1. Cyrodiil and IC arent impacted by the groupfinder bug. So those PVPers could still enjoy the event.

    2. Regular PVPers in Cyrodiil already deal with the performance issues. We've already seen how bad it gets during Midyear Mayhem. We may not enjoy how bad it gets, but we know what to expect, and we have fun in spite of it. For example, I swap to the 7-day campaign for the duration because I can't play on the 30-day because of lag, but I have a lot of fun anyway.


    So like I've said, I don't think that's enough to convince ZOS. I actually think ZOS probably made the right call, as much as I hate to lose out on the fub I wanted in Cyrodiil. But I understand why some players want it to go on anyway.
  • BigBragg
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    rumple9 wrote: »
    Ppl can still goto cyro and IC without an event invite ....

    Only missing out on double AP which is largely worthless anyway

    It isn't about the AP.
  • Claudman
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    Not even a Double XP event? Double AP event?

    Y'know, something useful for either leveling my characters or getting a ton of AvA currency/skills for my PvE characters or PvP characters?

    ZoS please



    There is literally nothing of worth for double drops in any of those zones (except maybe materials for node-farming or sets). I thought we were going to at least have Midyear...I was really looking forward to PvP'ing for Second Legion.
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  • The_Lex
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    As I said in another thread, "They are killing it, quite literally."

    Since I'm not going to participate in the event, I might take a break for a while. I'll log in once a week to run a trial with my guild, but I think that's it for now.
  • x48rph
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    I don't even know what to say here. The group finder has been busted for a long time but now all of a sudden , your going to cancel the midyear event, one of the very few PvP ones we get because of it. And then to add insult to injury, you gave us the thieves/dark brotherhood event again after you robbed bosmer of stealth just so you could make khajiit look better and sell more copies of Elsweyr.....
  • Monsieur
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    You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried. GG ZOS. Keep killing it!
  • hellhound223
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    Disappointing, because I was excited to finish my Star-Made Knight achievement. But then, with the group finder in such a state, I probably wouldn't have been able to anyway :/
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  • Hallothiel
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    Are people honestly saying that all the pvp players complaining about this would have been happy if the event had gone ahead?

    Not one would have got annoyed at the event causing even more problems, especially with things not working well in the first place?
  • Kidgangster101
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    monk222 wrote: »
    majulook wrote: »
    Look, Look, Jingle,Jingle, Shiny keys... Trying to make players forget about game issues... Along with a Marketing attempt to sell DLC's, and maybe some ESO+...

    They specifically stated that it is because of in game issues that they are holding this event instead.

    The entire game is an in game issue lol. They took away midyear mayham and put another pve event in it's place..... 90%+ of this game is pve they should do something for PvP players. I don't understand what in game issue causes them not to be able to calculate double ap.
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    I may do the daily quests in the Gold Coast because I have a couple of characters still trying to max out some secondary skills, but beyond that, I'm not bothering with any of the other events.
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  • Jolipinator
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    Claudman wrote: »
    I thought we were going to at least have Midyear...I was really looking forward to PvP'ing for Second Legion.

    Oh crap I forgot about that. I have been drooling over the Second Legion torso since I first saw it. For some reason i thought it would be part of the Imperial City event, but you are right, the in game description says:

    "Learned from Second Legion Style Pages, acquired from bosses while adventuring in the Imperial City during Midyear Mayhem." :'(

    For anyone who hasn't seen the style yet, look what we are missing out on:

    Second-Legion-Female-Front.jpg?ssl=1
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  • Red_Feather
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    I'm going to be selfish and enjoy it because I rarely dneo the TG and DB stuff and it fells new to me.
  • Hexys
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    Midyear Mayhem is an event that brings life to the unoccupied campaigns and is always a lot of fun. That the main 30 day campaigns turn to sh*t doesn't matter, they are crap anyway.

    Another stupid decision by Zenimax and taking away fun from PvP players. Really pissed me off.
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    x48rph wrote: »
    I don't even know what to say here. The group finder has been busted for a long time but now all of a sudden , your going to cancel the midyear event, one of the very few PvP ones we get because of it. And then to add insult to injury, you gave us the thieves/dark brotherhood event again after you robbed bosmer of stealth just so you could make khajiit look better and sell more copies of Elsweyr.....

    Unfortunately, that seems to be their modus operandi lately. We can't figure out how to fix it, so we'll just skip it / nerf it / change it into something useless.

    I really wish they would sell the game to a company that can fix everything and listen to the player base. Then they can focus better on killing their next projects without just leaving us to twist in the wind.
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    I'm going to be selfish and enjoy it because I rarely dneo the TG and DB stuff and it fells new to me.

    That's not selfish, that's sensible.
  • LennoxPoodle
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    monk222 wrote: »
    majulook wrote: »
    Look, Look, Jingle,Jingle, Shiny keys... Trying to make players forget about game issues... Along with a Marketing attempt to sell DLC's, and maybe some ESO+...

    They specifically stated that it is because of in game issues that they are holding this event instead.

    Yes...but unless we also get another ESO+ trial during the event, I'm certain that marketing is looking forward to some DLC sales.

    Shouldn't they have gone with CWC and Murkmire then? I guess a lot of people bought the guild DLCs in march.
  • redlink1979
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    If performance is going to be improved in a very near future, I don't really care about the event duplication.
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  • LucyferLightbringer
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    iris56 wrote: »
    But why???? There are too many events already and they chose this one to duplicate? :/

    No such thing as to many events. Tired of events? Do not participate. Some of us enjoy them.
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    We can all dream that they are taking proceeds and putting them toward a shiny new PvP server so we can ALL get back to playing our *&^%$"£"! game -_-

    Oh, forgot... they are going to 'balance' things.

    Bwahhahahahahaa xD
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    Double rewards for MoL plz
  • coplannb16_ESO
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    Id rather have another universal Event (like aniversary 5th week). let us do whatever we want (Dungeons, Trials, crafting, open world…) and give us Bonus boxes...
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  • markulrich1966
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    midyear event with faction lock would not make sense anyway, so it is fine that they promote PVE events instead.

    Focus on PVE instead PVP hopefully will result in quicker PVE bugfixes and improvements. Am impatient already to play southern Elsweyr :)
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