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ZOS is throttling server performance
sekekama21554
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That is the reason for almost every problem you’re having. [snip]. Problem is, it is constantly crashing and lagging!
I have a 9900k, 2080 ti, 64gbs of RAM and high end internet.
I LITERALLY have no issues in any other game besides ESO.
Let me go ahead and quote the boss
“We’re killing it!!!”
Lol
[Edited for misinformation/conspiracy theories]
Edited by ZOS_RogerJ on June 27, 2019 2:44PM I have a 9900k, 2080 ti, 64gbs of RAM and high end internet.
I LITERALLY have no issues in any other game besides ESO.
Let me go ahead and quote the boss
“We’re killing it!!!”
Lol
[Edited for misinformation/conspiracy theories]
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Ogou✭✭✭✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »They said it themselves... with all the new influx of players, they’re throttling server performance so it’s not constantly crashing/lagging.
Where did they say that?7 -
sekekama21554✭✭✭Read the first sticky on these forums. It says they’re throttling how many queries user made adding can ping the system for information. If they’re throttling Addons, trust me that is not the only thing they’re throtting. Don’t be nieve15
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✭sekekama21554 wrote: »Read the first sticky on these forums. It says they’re throttling how many queries user made adding can ping the system for information. If they’re throttling Addons, trust me that is not the only thing they’re throtting. Don’t be nieve
Lol so the source of information is "trust me" and "don't be nieve" (which is really naive)19 -
Ogou✭✭✭✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »Read the first sticky on these forums. It says they’re throttling how many queries user made adding can ping the system for information. If they’re throttling Addons, trust me that is not the only thing they’re throtting. Don’t be nieve
They were specifically about queries to the guild history. It's a pretty big leap to say that it means ZOS is purposefully throttling everything because of that.4 -
sekekama21554✭✭✭Yeah I was counting on my spell check. Shoot me. So are you having excellent latency? Is it between 20-50 ms? Have you been disconnected? Are you sometimes unable to join the dungeon finder? (If you even use it lol) have you been playing in Cyrodil? How about BG finder.
Even if you don’t believe any of that, have you taken the time and read any of the threads on the general forums? They’re is more threads about server performance then threads about complimenting the game. Hell even there is a necro’d thread from 2018 about “I’m a ZOS Dev and I’m here to help” lol look at all the replies to that one. People actually thought it was a recent one and posted everything and anything on that as to what they’ve been experiencing issues with.
And did you read the fearless leaders article about how “we’re killing it” I mean I’m sure you have. It has become a walking talking meme16 -
Ogou✭✭✭✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »Yeah I was counting on my spell check. Shoot me. So are you having excellent latency? Is it between 20-50 ms? Have you been disconnected? Are you sometimes unable to join the dungeon finder? (If you even use it lol) have you been playing in Cyrodil? How about BG finder.
Even if you don’t believe any of that, have you taken the time and read any of the threads on the general forums? They’re is more threads about server performance then threads about complimenting the game. Hell even there is a necro’d thread from 2018 about “I’m a ZOS Dev and I’m here to help” lol look at all the replies to that one. People actually thought it was a recent one and posted everything and anything on that as to what they’ve been experiencing issues with.
And did you read the fearless leaders article about how “we’re killing it” I mean I’m sure you have. It has become a walking talking meme
There can be issues without ZOS having to throttle their own server for that.2 -
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Bis gear on forum.sekekama21554 wrote: »That is the reason for almost every problem you’re having. [snip]. Problem is, it is constantly crashing and lagging!
I have a 9900k, 2080 ti, 64gbs of RAM and high end internet.
I LITERALLY have no issues in any other game besides ESO.
Let me go ahead and quote the boss
“We’re killing it!!!”
Lol
Lacks the 5th effect, implode idiots in area off effect.
They was adding an login queue for PC EU because to many players, this was removed then they added more servers. Effect overland work well but group finder is still bugged as its an single instance, Cyrodil still has the same number of instances.
And why??? they might fool players, but not the bottom line, getting people to leave would result in less income.
More players because lots of WOW players has jumped ship and general good reputation.
With an weakened WOW its just FF14 and ESO left among the premium level MMO and only ESO don't require an sub.
The rest is old stuff looking more aged than WOW or PvP only survival and a pack of Korean grinders with P2W mechanics.
Edited by ZOS_RogerJ on June 27, 2019 2:45PMGrinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.3 -
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✭sekekama21554 wrote: »Yeah I was counting on my spell check. Shoot me. So are you having excellent latency? Is it between 20-50 ms? Have you been disconnected? Are you sometimes unable to join the dungeon finder? (If you even use it lol) have you been playing in Cyrodil? How about BG finder.
Even if you don’t believe any of that, have you taken the time and read any of the threads on the general forums? They’re is more threads about server performance then threads about complimenting the game. Hell even there is a necro’d thread from 2018 about “I’m a ZOS Dev and I’m here to help” lol look at all the replies to that one. People actually thought it was a recent one and posted everything and anything on that as to what they’ve been experiencing issues with.
And did you read the fearless leaders article about how “we’re killing it” I mean I’m sure you have. It has become a walking talking meme
Yes, I read a lot of the topics on this forum, as well as other mediums. I was merely having a jest at your source. You could potentially be right with your theory about them throttling server performance, but honestly if you are going to make that type of accusation you need factual evidence to back it up or else you're no better than someone who is just trying to troll for fun.
On a more technical level though, what methods are they taking to throttle server performance?1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »sekekama21554 wrote: »Yeah I was counting on my spell check. Shoot me. So are you having excellent latency? Is it between 20-50 ms? Have you been disconnected? Are you sometimes unable to join the dungeon finder? (If you even use it lol) have you been playing in Cyrodil? How about BG finder.
Even if you don’t believe any of that, have you taken the time and read any of the threads on the general forums? They’re is more threads about server performance then threads about complimenting the game. Hell even there is a necro’d thread from 2018 about “I’m a ZOS Dev and I’m here to help” lol look at all the replies to that one. People actually thought it was a recent one and posted everything and anything on that as to what they’ve been experiencing issues with.
And did you read the fearless leaders article about how “we’re killing it” I mean I’m sure you have. It has become a walking talking meme
Yes, I read a lot of the topics on this forum, as well as other mediums. I was merely having a jest at your source. You could potentially be right with your theory about them throttling server performance, but honestly if you are going to make that type of accusation you need factual evidence to back it up or else you're no better than someone who is just trying to troll for fun.
On a more technical level though, what methods are they taking to throttle server performance?
Top of the line server throttler, only the best circa 1990, trust me. I've got one myself that I keep next to my lag switch.Edited by Sandman929 on June 26, 2019 7:34PM7 -
sekekama21554✭✭✭How can a squid like me have any proof? I’m just a normal 27 year old, I don’t have like super secret programs to actually capture like the before and after of the Elsweyr launch. So after reading these forums for the past month or so? Is that how long Elsweyr has been out? It’s been like a night and day difference on the complaining.
You’re right I shouldn’t make accusations I can’t back up, but trust me (lol) if I did have proof I would show it!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »How can a squid like me have any proof? I’m just a normal 27 year old, I don’t have like super secret programs to actually capture like the before and after of the Elsweyr launch. So after reading these forums for the past month or so? Is that how long Elsweyr has been out? It’s been like a night and day difference on the complaining.
You’re right I shouldn’t make accusations I can’t back up, but trust me (lol) if I did have proof I would show it!
I don't think anyone disagrees that performance is suffering.1 -
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✭sekekama21554 wrote: »That is the reason for almost every problem you’re having. [snip]. Problem is, it is constantly crashing and lagging!
I have a 9900k, 2080 ti, 64gbs of RAM and high end internet.
I LITERALLY have no issues in any other game besides ESO.
Let me go ahead and quote the boss
“We’re killing it!!!”
Lol
High end and yet my low end runs eso just fine on ultra in pvp and groups. Zergs is where it dies but I'm using a old card.Edited by ZOS_RogerJ on June 27, 2019 2:46PMIGN: Ki'rah
Khajiit/Vampire
DC/AD faction/NA server.
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Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭sekekama21554 wrote: »How can a squid like me have any proof? I’m just a normal 27 year old, I don’t have like super secret programs to actually capture like the before and after of the Elsweyr launch. So after reading these forums for the past month or so? Is that how long Elsweyr has been out? It’s been like a night and day difference on the complaining.
You’re right I shouldn’t make accusations I can’t back up, but trust me (lol) if I did have proof I would show it!
The bold part is very true, and the trend cannot be ignored. There is obviously an issue with performance right now. Whether it's caused by the aging of the current server infrastructure or potentially due to the influx of returning players for Elsweyr, or more-likely a combination of the both, I do not know. Again, no personal slight was intended. Merely having a little joke at your expense
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Billdor✭✭✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »That is the reason for almost every problem you’re having. [snip]. Problem is, it is constantly crashing and lagging!
I have a 9900k, 2080 ti, 64gbs of RAM and high end internet.
I LITERALLY have no issues in any other game besides ESO.
Let me go ahead and quote the boss
“We’re killing it!!!”
Lol
You literally have 0 idea about Client and Server models. Don't embarrass yourself any longer.Edited by ZOS_RogerJ on June 27, 2019 2:46PM3 -
sekekama21554✭✭✭And on the technical level if I had to make a far out guess (and servers are not my area of expertise) I’m a property manager irl lol
I would guess they’re editing something in the code or something along those lines where it bottlenecks how many people can do anything at any given time. So say the max bandwidth for people queuing in dungeons is (this is just an example)
Say 1000 people queue up. But that makes people disconnect.
So they bottleneck it to where only 750 can queue at any given time. ( just an example)
Or say since there is an absurd amount of people playing during prime time. They can raise the ping to the server so there is a little bit of time in between every single persons request so the server can process information/requests faster. ( once again I’m not an expert)
I just think the servers can’t handle all the new traffic so they’re putting an artificial buffer in there somewhere to slow down everything so there isn’t a 100% complete blackout aka everyone stays disconnected.
And the catch 22 is, if they were to upgrade or order new servers (idk how they do it tbh) chances are people would have to stay offline for maybe 1-2 days quite possible more?
I remember back in wow several years ago when they were upgrading servers there was times where you could not play for almost a week and they credited that game time back to people to make up for it.
I think this is a possible delema ZOS May have in the future. Take the server down to upgrade capacity/bandwidth/whatever and mayb be offline for hours/days but in order to get a better experience for players.
I mean it’s 2019 I could be wrong but this was like 2011 or 2012 when it happened in Wow
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sekekama21554✭✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »That is the reason for almost every problem you’re having. They said it themselves... with all the new influx of players, they’re throttling server performance so it’s not constantly crashing/lagging. Problem is, it is constantly crashing and lagging!
I have a 9900k, 2080 ti, 64gbs of RAM and high end internet.
I LITERALLY have no issues in any other game besides ESO.
Let me go ahead and quote the boss
“We’re killing it!!!”
Lol
You literally have 0 idea about Client and Server models. Don't embarrass yourself any longer.
Lol for one I don’t give 2 squats what you or anyone else on these forums thinks of me,
And two please enlighten me so I understand client and server models better
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✭✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »That is the reason for almost every problem you’re having. They said it themselves... with all the new influx of players, they’re throttling server performance so it’s not constantly crashing/lagging. Problem is, it is constantly crashing and lagging!
I have a 9900k, 2080 ti, 64gbs of RAM and high end internet.
I LITERALLY have no issues in any other game besides ESO.
Let me go ahead and quote the boss
“We’re killing it!!!”
Lol
I am having zero issues and outside of pvp big fights 0 lag. Guess they just forgot to throttle me?5 -
sekekama21554✭✭✭No I don’t think they forgot to throttle you. I just think you’re used to ESO. Meaning you’ve grown used to the lag, used to the really bad latency, and are ok with a lot of other things. Skwor I’m sure you’ve played other games besides ESO yeah? Tell me what is your latency in those games vs ESO?1
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Casowen✭✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »sekekama21554 wrote: »That is the reason for almost every problem you’re having. They said it themselves... with all the new influx of players, they’re throttling server performance so it’s not constantly crashing/lagging. Problem is, it is constantly crashing and lagging!
I have a 9900k, 2080 ti, 64gbs of RAM and high end internet.
I LITERALLY have no issues in any other game besides ESO.
Let me go ahead and quote the boss
“We’re killing it!!!”
Lol
You literally have 0 idea about Client and Server models. Don't embarrass yourself any longer.
Lol for one I don’t give 2 squats what you or anyone else on these forums thinks of me,
And two please enlighten me so I understand client and server models better
Hahaha, that person you quoted sounded like something straight of of EA. For what its worth, even if we dont know much about server's, we know far better systems then ESO. They wont give any "enlightens" because there are none to give sadly.1 -
sekekama21554✭✭✭GTA 5 - latency is 46ms
GW2 latency is 66ms
WoW latency is 53-59ms
COD latency is 39ms
Discord latency is 42ms
LoL latency is 47ms
Fortnitr latency is 55 ms
ESO latency 120-160 ms
But Sekekama ESO uses an anti-ddos service that routes your stuff halfway across the world!
Ok but so does a lot of these other titles.
It’s amazing what people get used to. And it’s more then just latency issue. It’s all the stuff that’s been reported on the PTS and you can’t say I’m making the one up..5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »Read the first sticky on these forums. It says they’re throttling how many queries user made adding can ping the system for information. If they’re throttling Addons, trust me that is not the only thing they’re throtting. Don’t be nieve
You say do not be nieve but you are clearly reading into things, putting words into their mouth which is worse than someone being nieve.
It makes sense to restrict addons in favor of the actual game. Great choice Zos made. BTW, it would be obvious if the game itself was begin throttled. If all our imputes/queries were being throttled. Our DPS would drop for one thing as our skills would be slowed down.
When you have actual proof otherwise we will listen. Until then you are just calling out the sky is falling because a leaf fluttered to the ground.
Edit: to the latency argument, mine has not changed in a very long time so that is a false argument that Zos has recently started throttling our game.Edited by idk on June 26, 2019 8:15PM0 -
reprosal✭✭✭✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »GTA 5 - latency is 46ms
GW2 latency is 66ms
WoW latency is 53-59ms
COD latency is 39ms
Discord latency is 42ms
LoL latency is 47ms
Fortnitr latency is 55 ms
ESO latency 120-160 ms
But Sekekama ESO uses an anti-ddos service that routes your stuff halfway across the world!
Ok but so does a lot of these other titles.
It’s amazing what people get used to. And it’s more then just latency issue. It’s all the stuff that’s been reported on the PTS and you can’t say I’m making the one up..
And none of that latency has anything to do with your CPU/GPU or RAM specs.
Nice humble flex. Oh... enjoy your 21 games of ray tracing for a ridiculous price per performance gain over a 1080 ti. Let me know when your VRM overheats from over-engineered bearing and hyrdoblock cooling fails
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✭I wish that if they are throttling performance they would throttle players who are playing above 60fps in world zones rather than as what seems to be a blanket throttle, in particular localized to cities. I'm seeing fully optimized rates for my system at 60-115 outside of cities, 135 staring at the sky, and 40-60, typically around 50-55 in cities with only 45%-50% GPU usage. My GPU usage does rise to a reasonable load outside of cities (70%+). While I'm no expert on if there is a throttle going on, it would seem that throttling down players to 60fps when the server is under load would have an acceptable impact since typically monitors operate at 60 frames, and is considered the standard for perceptible play.
Using a constant blanket throttle (which is what seems to be the case) makes players with less equipped systems suffer for players with higher grade systems to see above average performance. Dynamically throttling the excess above 60 while the server is under load would improve the overall experience of the player base, and only have a circumstantial impact (assuming it can still handle a 60fps standard).Edited by Cathexis on June 26, 2019 9:44PMTome of Alteration Magic I - Reality is an Ancient Dwemer Construct: Everything You Need to Know About FPS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/520903/tomb-of-fps-alteration-magic-everything-you-need-to-know-about-fps
Tome of Alteration Magic II - The Manual of the Deceiver: A Beginner's Guide to Thieving
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/462509/tome-of-alteration-mastery-ii-the-decievers-manual-thieving-guide-for-new-characters
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✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »That is the reason for almost every problem you’re having. [snip]. Problem is, it is constantly crashing and lagging!
I have a 9900k, 2080 ti, 64gbs of RAM and high end internet.
I LITERALLY have no issues in any other game besides ESO.
Let me go ahead and quote the boss
“We’re killing it!!!”
Lol
When and where did they say they are throttling servers? Sources, please?Edited by ZOS_RogerJ on June 27, 2019 2:47PM0 -
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Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.5 -
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✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »How can a squid like me have any proof? I’m just a normal 27 year old, I don’t have like super secret programs to actually capture like the before and after of the Elsweyr launch. So after reading these forums for the past month or so? Is that how long Elsweyr has been out? It’s been like a night and day difference on the complaining.
You’re right I shouldn’t make accusations I can’t back up, but trust me (lol) if I did have proof I would show it!
There's no difference in complaining... It's seasonal... With updates, comes more people, and the forums get like this. A few weeks down the line, goes down again to normal levels. You been here a month, some of us have been here years, lurking or posting, but for years. It doesn't feel too different at all from 3 months ago or 6 or 9, after the updates. You should see after ANY sorc or NB Nerf... It's hilarious how whiny the forums get. Shield Nerf was sheetshow...
So no... You should worry about not accusing without proof more than about being actually right... You probably aren't anyway.1 -
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✭sekekama21554 wrote: »That is the reason for almost every problem you’re having. They said it themselves... with all the new influx of players, they’re throttling server performance so it’s not constantly crashing/lagging. Problem is, it is constantly crashing and lagging!
I have a 9900k, 2080 ti, 64gbs of RAM and high end internet.
I LITERALLY have no issues in any other game besides ESO.
Let me go ahead and quote the boss
“We’re killing it!!!”
Lol
When and where did they say they are throttling servers? Sources, please?
I would like to see confirmation as well, as I had written this performance variance off to what I was informed as being the framerate drop off from latency bottlenecked at the server end.Tome of Alteration Magic I - Reality is an Ancient Dwemer Construct: Everything You Need to Know About FPS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/520903/tomb-of-fps-alteration-magic-everything-you-need-to-know-about-fps
Tome of Alteration Magic II - The Manual of the Deceiver: A Beginner's Guide to Thieving
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/462509/tome-of-alteration-mastery-ii-the-decievers-manual-thieving-guide-for-new-characters
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ImSoPro✭✭✭sekekama21554 wrote: »Read the first sticky on these forums. It says they’re throttling how many queries user made adding can ping the system for information. If they’re throttling Addons, trust me that is not the only thing they’re throtting. Don’t be nieve
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