Spell dmg vs crit dmg...

  • MartiniDaniels
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    reprosal wrote: »
    Without having all the numbers required to check this on your build, I can tell you that for mine:

    129 Spell Damage = 2.1% Damage
    833 Spell Crit = 2.3% Damage
    10% Crit Damage = 4% Damage
    1096 Max Magicka = 1.8% Damage

    Shouldn’t be too far off for what you’re doing.

    If this is the theory then why is Khajiit not considered top for mag classes?

    Because 258SD+2k magicka is more then 10% critdamage + 1k magicka.
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    @MartiniDaniels yea I derped sorry. Am at work in between meetings and forgot that passives are 258 SP. My mistake. Nothing to see here. Carry on!
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    reprosal wrote: »
    @MartiniDaniels yea I derped sorry. Am at work in between meetings and forgot that passives are 258 SP. My mistake. Nothing to see here. Carry on!

    I can't resist to come to help when needed, sorry :D
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    reprosal wrote: »
    @MartiniDaniels yea I derped sorry. Am at work in between meetings and forgot that passives are 258 SP. My mistake. Nothing to see here. Carry on!

    Yeah the 258 SP is pretty much equal to the 10% Crit Dmg, it’s the 2k Max Magicka vs 825 that puts Altmer ahead of Khajiit for damage. That being said, Khajiit can do pretty well if you need the extra 825 health and 85 Magicka Regen, with a little stamina as an added perk.

    IMO, Elves and Khajiit are all underpowered compared to good races like Breton, Orc, and Redguard. Even Imperial and Nord have better racial bonuses, even if not very useful for damage.
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    reprosal wrote: »
    @MartiniDaniels yea I derped sorry. Am at work in between meetings and forgot that passives are 258 SP. My mistake. Nothing to see here. Carry on!

    Yeah the 258 SP is pretty much equal to the 10% Crit Dmg, it’s the 2k Max Magicka vs 825 that puts Altmer ahead of Khajiit for damage. That being said, Khajiit can do pretty well if you need the extra 825 health and 85 Magicka Regen, with a little stamina as an added perk.

    IMO, Elves and Khajiit are all underpowered compared to good races like Breton, Orc, and Redguard. Even Imperial and Nord have better racial bonuses, even if not very useful for damage.

    Yep, key thing is that elves and khajiits have off-role stats with main stats slightly weaker then breton/orc and in the same time overall amount of stats is lower then those of nord/imperial. I don't know intention behind this, but it seems like developers prefer DC most of all. Maybe it was least popular alliance, so they expected a lot of adventurer pack purchases to make swap to DC races available with free tokens.
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    I swapped from a pure spell damage build to a pure crit build and my parses went up by ~10k near instantly. You have soo much more potential damage in crit. 1 set piece bonus is 833 for crit. Some of the stronger damage dealing sets dont even get to that number in spell damage when you add up all the bonuses.

    it depends also on how you allocate your CPs: the crit dmg stars (spell and weapon) get a higher % compared to raw dmg stats (25% vs 15%) but raw dmg is up 100% of the time. Besides those stars you also have MoA and Thaum stars that buff your Direct dmg and your DoT.

    Besides that, you also have to consider crit chance and how it is affected for your class, for example NBs can build crit chance much easier than DKs, so obviously a NB more focused on crit chace will get better numbers by increasing its crit dmg (without forgeting on base dmg and penetration)

    In the end a good build must consider all those factors and tailor according the class/race needs/strenghts.

    Of course, if you go for crit dmg in PvP, you will find it lackluster because in PvP the most used trait is impenetrable, and Battle Spirit dcreases a lot your dmg capacities. In simple words, in PvP you are lucky if you are able to put a 30% of what the tooltip says.
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