xMovingTarget wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

It's because Reddit has much more active and aggressive moderation. Which is a good thing (IMO).

Not when any rightfully spread negativity is suppressed. The game runs like a persons behind, is buggy like never before. Talking about these issues is not random complaining or negativity.
If there are issues, people should be able to talk about them IN ANY OUTLET available.
If you cant let your dissatisfaction about a product that becomes worse and worse, then nothing will ever get fixed. And those companies will lose revenue.
Happy costumors are paying costumers. Game is laggy/buggy. People will not give their money likely.

There is nothing wrong with discussing the issues and having a place to constantly remind ZOS about them. However a number of the post and posters on these boards are not constructive and do little more than fan the flames of discontent, spread misinformation and generally make the forum a somewhat toxic place.

I can't say I am active enough on the Reddit community to know exactly how things go there, but I do follow it and whenever I am reading what's new on the sub reddits I follow I do notice people discussing issues on there.

Tigerseye wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

Oh, Ambassador, with this aggressive moderation you really spoiling us...

One for the over 30s Brits, there...

I'm over 30 and a Brit and don't get it.

What, you have forgotten this classic piece of advertising genius:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P-nZZkQqTc

Apparently I did. I vaguely remember it now seeing it, but not sure how old I was when I saw it.

Have an insightful for, making me feel old I guess?

Oh they dont want to read true feedback? They dont have solutions for real and everlasting problems?

Go on, live your fairytale about perfect game on reddit. True supporters praise when something is good and tell when something is going wrong.

We became hostile because we are ignored by devs.

xMovingTarget wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

LucyferLightbringer wrote: »

I really dont know where the doom and gloom comes tbh, they speak about gamebreaking bugs yet i play daily and encounter none. TBH even in posts complaining about bugs all i see is "there are game breaking bugs how can you not fix them!", yet i never see any list of bugs or examples. Starting to wonder if its not just trolling... My only problem with ESO atm is lack of events. Before i joined i saw posts of people claiming there are loads, yet it is nearly 2 months now with no event at all.

Alright bud. Here’s your game breaking bugs:
Activity finder
Stuck in combat
Sliding on the floor when hit by certain CC’s
Health desync
Delay in cc’s such as javelin or clench which causes either a slow motion animation or just a desync
Shadow image being bugged
Pirate skeleton monster set bugged causing you to not be able to bar swap when the set procs
Root poisons going through snare and root immunity
Double cc caused by flame clench
When pulling a target they sometimes just immediately teleport back to their original location after you pulled them
Loadscreens... everywhere
Loadscreens when a keep flips or upgrades causing entire groups to wipe due to lack of game management.
Necro does not work properly
- Blastbones acting strange(not attacking)
- Blastbones randomly not available to be casted(greyed out key)
- Detonating syphon turns your character around not firing the skill
- Detonating syphon not being able to hit bosses in Sunspire
- Detonating syphon not being able to be used when another necro placed a corpse on your corpse.
Mob telegraphs go in random direction instead of where they are shown
Bosses have broken hitboxes in sunpire not allowing some skills/proqqs to hit

I added some more into the quote in italic. And those are actually gamebreaking and all belong to or after Elsweyr. Been there pretty much since elsweyr release. Nothing got fixed. New class is broken, sunspire does not work properly.. ZOS needs to get their -snip- together...

Thanks for adding those things to list, but I don't see the problem which have been really a problem since Elsweyr that you kill a target and can't loot it as you get an error message about "Target out of range". It is often combined with target being killed and then it teleports away from where it should have left a dead body in place on ground.

//RexyCat

frostz417 wrote: »

LucyferLightbringer wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

LucyferLightbringer wrote: »

I really dont know where the doom and gloom comes tbh, they speak about gamebreaking bugs yet i play daily and encounter none. TBH even in posts complaining about bugs all i see is "there are game breaking bugs how can you not fix them!", yet i never see any list of bugs or examples. Starting to wonder if its not just trolling... My only problem with ESO atm is lack of events. Before i joined i saw posts of people claiming there are loads, yet it is nearly 2 months now with no event at all.

Alright bud. Here’s your game breaking bugs:
Activity finder If by activity finder you mean group finder i use it daily for random dungeon as well as pledges, works fine.
Stuck in combat Never happened to me for no reason, there always was some mob somewhere that had a grudge with me
Sliding on the floor when hit by certain CC’s never experienced it
Health desync Never experience it as well, mods maybe?
Delay in cc’s such as javelin or clench which causes either a slow motion animation or just a desync Playing templar for last week, never seen javelin delay
Shadow image being bugged Cant comment on this not using it
Pirate skeleton monster set bugged causing you to not be able to bar swap when the set procs Cant comment on this not using it
Root poisons going through snare and root immunity Cant comment on this not using it
Double cc caused by flame clench Cant comment on this not using itDid
When pulling a target they sometimes just immediately teleport back to their original location after you pulled them Cant comment on this not using it
Loadscreens... everywhere This i have to agree with
Loadscreens when a keep flips or upgrades causing entire groups to wipe due to lack of game management. This i have to agree with

Also to your ridiculous event complain. All the events are literally the same trash.
“Double nodes in this certain zone and do dailies wooohoo”
More events put more strain on the server which causes even MORE lag and the recent massive influx of events was zos purely milking the game so they can get more new players and more money... even though literally almost all of the events were just the same repetitive lazy trash.

Maybe they are trash to you, for me as a new player they are a very welcome boost.

If you think health desync is a mod then This discussion is over

@LucyferLightbringer If you actually look up health desync on this forum through Google you would know that it wasn't just health that could be desynced, all resources like stamina and magica had problems for around a year ago during Summerset/Murkmire time. It is well known issue in this game that this happens form patch to patch.

Same for issues leading to Group Finder that works and then it doesn't, meaning either you get messages that click until you give up to form a group and the process before you get into a dungeon or you are sp lucky that your group will be teleported in and out again. There have been all kind of problems with Group Finder or Activity Finder (which is name that ESO use now in game).

During last autumn there where events after events which in the end made me leave game as it fast get to repetitive doing daily quest in zones to get a token for a mount skin, motifs that was only possible to get through event and some other stuff. Here is a link that show you the last event lasted for 5 weeks.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/55981

As a new player that might sound fun and all for you, but be careful to not burnout from doing events, in particular when there are events that last as long as 5 weeks and then maybe are chained with another event that also last in weeks or have certain requirements for achieve a token which is only possible to get during this kind of events.

During one events where one needed to use Group Finder/Activity Finder as to get rewards related to do dungeons for that event, Group Finder started to really break down and Zeni had to acknowledge that GF couldn't handle all the pressure from all players that tried to get into a group or dungeon by using that tool. If I recall correctly you needed to use get into a Random Daily Group for getting a token and extra XP (more then standard non event) from using GF for Random Daily.

With Elsweyr things have become a lot more problematic as we have serious quest bugs (WB that doesn't give credit for daily quest; quest marker that isn't showing in which direction next step one need to go to actually talk with dragon in MQ for Elsweyr), Necromancer that suddenly get a chain of bugs that several people reported which if that would have continued really would make Necromancer unplayable as class as ti where showing a big shield in front for block animation, couldn't mount, use food/drinks/pots (consumables) or sprint and walk/run speed where off, weapon that suddenly disappear visually like bow or move to your feet like DW, not game breaking by itself, but still a sign that something is going on that could end with weapon doesn't fire any more or other issues.

I don't know if you play solo most part or join groups, but as MMO player you wouldn't be too happy if you manage to get a group to share daily quest, kill WB and don't get any loot or credit for finishing quest even when you have spent time to form a group in zone, share to those that didn't quest and to wait until boss spawns again.

//RexyCat

Turelus wrote: »

However a number of the post and posters on these boards are not constructive and do little more than fan the flames of discontent, spread misinformation and generally make the forum a somewhat toxic place.

I came here after spending many years on the Steam forums that catered for players of Bethesda games.

The Steam forums were a mix of good and bad, including a lot of - constant - slagging Bethesda off. Some of it was probably the mindless whining that is found in any discussion forum, some of it had a genuine basis, but some of it had...hard to articulate...an "undertow" Same people with the same - repetitive - attacks on Bethesda. It was impossible not to wonder if there was more to it than met the eye.

I get that seem feeling here.

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

The official forums would be MUCH better if they were limited to ESO+ members.

How?

SWTOR does this. But it immediately discounts everyone who previously paid a subscription. And as others have said, paying doesn't magically make your opinions better. Worse, it can just make you feel more entitled and to make non-subs feel like second-class citizens.

Good, they are.

Turelus wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

It's because Reddit has much more active and aggressive moderation. Which is a good thing (IMO).

Not when any rightfully spread negativity is suppressed. The game runs like a persons behind, is buggy like never before. Talking about these issues is not random complaining or negativity.
If there are issues, people should be able to talk about them IN ANY OUTLET available.
If you cant let your dissatisfaction about a product that becomes worse and worse, then nothing will ever get fixed. And those companies will lose revenue.
Happy costumors are paying costumers. Game is laggy/buggy. People will not give their money likely.

There is nothing wrong with discussing the issues and having a place to constantly remind ZOS about them. However a number of the post and posters on these boards are not constructive and do little more than fan the flames of discontent, spread misinformation and generally make the forum a somewhat toxic place.

I can't say I am active enough on the Reddit community to know exactly how things go there, but I do follow it and whenever I am reading what's new on the sub reddits I follow I do notice people discussing issues on there.

At this point, 5 years in the game, I believe that people are running out of constructive ways to tell zos that their product has major issues that need fixing. And the number of times zos has falsely yelled "wolf" in the past has clearly rendered the community numb to any form of reassuring statement. Not to mention their non-existant presence in the forums apart from some posts here and there closing down threads for tos violations. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
Having said that I believe that the majority of people posting "negatively" on these forums would rather play the game they 've invested time and money on instead of sitting here screaming in a bottomless pit. And zos employes would rather spend their time making their good game into a great one instead of dealing with the same old issues.

Look, they noticed this thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/c55gba/official_forums_opinion_of_this_reddit/

Turelus wrote: »

It's because Reddit has much more active and aggressive moderation. Which is a good thing (IMO).

Maybe this.

I am also sure that minority of ESO player base use forums to begin with. And those who use ESO forums dont use Reddit that much. So it is the "minority out of minority" who use Reddit.
Tbh. I was surprised that is even a thing, when ZOS announced their Q&A to be on Reddit, rather than ESO forums. It looked to me like a deliberate move, so less ppl would know about it. It felt cheesy & suspicious. As if ZOS was afraid of something.

Billdor wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Billdor wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

It's because Reddit has much more active and aggressive moderation. Which is a good thing (IMO).

This is bait right?

Nope. Whilst some people complain about the draconian moderation on these forums it's actually pretty lax. There are a lot of posts and threads which don't get moderated, as well as the fact people who constantly and actively break rules don't get suspended or banned. You can also add that the ESO forums has no EU moderation staff (besides Kai who doesn't moderate EN forums).

From what I have seen of the moderation on Reddit it clears up the trash pretty quick.

Doesn't seem like they're clearing the trash up to me

I'm confused, that picture kind of proves my point doesn't it? Most of those topics look interesting and constructive/sharing and not just rage threads about balance/lag/crown store etc.