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Pummeling Goliath Bash when?
Mayrael
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When this skill be fixed? This skill is ruining whole PvP, there was never a skill that could wipe whole groups just by smashing one button. It's skilless gameplay which brings a lot of frustration into PvP crowd. So here I am asking:
When ZOS decides to balance this broken skill? When you will fix this madness? You really need months to balance something that is beyond any reasonable boundaries? Somehow you could hotfix sieges when they were bugged, but now you don't even notice the issue? How convenient! If we won't acknowledge there is a problem we won't have to fix it!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett
Once again, simple question. When?
When ZOS decides to balance this broken skill? When you will fix this madness? You really need months to balance something that is beyond any reasonable boundaries? Somehow you could hotfix sieges when they were bugged, but now you don't even notice the issue? How convenient! If we won't acknowledge there is a problem we won't have to fix it!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett
Once again, simple question. When?
"We are currently investigating connection issues some players are having on the European megaservers. We will update as new information becomes available."
— They always claim they’re “investigating” the causes, but in reality they’re just waiting until the PC EU players go to bed. Once that happens, you can suddenly log in again and they happily mark the issue as Fixed.
— They always claim they’re “investigating” the causes, but in reality they’re just waiting until the PC EU players go to bed. Once that happens, you can suddenly log in again and they happily mark the issue as Fixed.
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Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Probably next patch
Zos doesn't really care to fix broken mechanics asap.I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations0 -
Sandman929✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭When this skill be fixed? This skill is ruining whole PvP, there was never a skill that could wipe whole groups just by smashing one button. It's skilless gameplay which brings a lot of frustration into PvP crowd. So here I am asking:
When ZOS decides to balance this broken skill? When you will fix this madness? You really need months to balance something that is beyond any reasonable boundaries? Somehow you could hotfix sieges when they were bugged, but now you don't even notice the issue? How convenient! If we won't acknowledge there is a problem we won't have to fix it!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett
Once again, simple question. When?
Hey, I'm not just going to sit here while you misrepresent the skill it takes to use this.
On console, it's 2 buttons.23 -
Kuramas9tails✭✭✭✭✭
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@Sandman929 Forget class reps, we need a console rep and it's clearly you.Sandman929 wrote: »When this skill be fixed? This skill is ruining whole PvP, there was never a skill that could wipe whole groups just by smashing one button. It's skilless gameplay which brings a lot of frustration into PvP crowd. So here I am asking:
When ZOS decides to balance this broken skill? When you will fix this madness? You really need months to balance something that is beyond any reasonable boundaries? Somehow you could hotfix sieges when they were bugged, but now you don't even notice the issue? How convenient! If we won't acknowledge there is a problem we won't have to fix it!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett
Once again, simple question. When?
Hey, I'm not just going to sit here while you misrepresent the skill it takes to use this.
On console, it's 2 buttons.
Your friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
New PSN name: SundariTheLast. Proud seller in RedEye Empire, PURPLE GANG and Backalley Trading.
AD High Elf Mageblade DPS (General)(Former Empress) -- Stormproof/VMOL, VHOF, VDSA completion
AD Khajiit Mageblade DPS -- Flawless Conquerer
FOR THE QUEEN!
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✭I was a bit surprised to die that fast. But it happened like once, and then again - because I think it was glitched (or because of lag), so I was killed even though the *** guy had his back turned on me. Now I just avoid them. It's really not that much of a problem. Needs to be balanced - yes - but if you die constantly to this, I really hope you don't have as much problem to learn what hurts in real life too. Stay clear of them. It's like ten seconds, wait and then go on.6 -
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✭✭✭✭Just make the skill last for 10-12 seconds, like all other defensive ultis do.3 -
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✭Sandman929 wrote: »When this skill be fixed? This skill is ruining whole PvP, there was never a skill that could wipe whole groups just by smashing one button. It's skilless gameplay which brings a lot of frustration into PvP crowd. So here I am asking:
When ZOS decides to balance this broken skill? When you will fix this madness? You really need months to balance something that is beyond any reasonable boundaries? Somehow you could hotfix sieges when they were bugged, but now you don't even notice the issue? How convenient! If we won't acknowledge there is a problem we won't have to fix it!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett
Once again, simple question. When?
Hey, I'm not just going to sit here while you misrepresent the skill it takes to use this.
On console, it's 2 buttons.
LOL console’n is hard work!5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Kuramas9tails wrote: »
@Sandman929 Forget class reps, we need a console rep and it's clearly you.Sandman929 wrote: »When this skill be fixed? This skill is ruining whole PvP, there was never a skill that could wipe whole groups just by smashing one button. It's skilless gameplay which brings a lot of frustration into PvP crowd. So here I am asking:
When ZOS decides to balance this broken skill? When you will fix this madness? You really need months to balance something that is beyond any reasonable boundaries? Somehow you could hotfix sieges when they were bugged, but now you don't even notice the issue? How convenient! If we won't acknowledge there is a problem we won't have to fix it!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett
Once again, simple question. When?
Hey, I'm not just going to sit here while you misrepresent the skill it takes to use this.
On console, it's 2 buttons.
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✭✭✭✭✭Just run one yourself and play Rock ‘Em Sock ‘Em Robots with the enemy Necro Goliath...Edited by rotaugen454 on June 21, 2019 2:14PM"Get off my lawn!"1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭When necromancer can achieve something in PvP outside of their 3 overperforming ultimates......5 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why would they fix it? It's selling copies of Elsweyr left and right.
The strength of the ultimate was well discussed on the PTS, if it wasn't working as intended, it would have been nerfed before being pushed to the live server.0 -
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✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Just make the skill last for 10-12 seconds, like all other defensive ultis do.
They need to remove the ultimate generation lock then. That’s why the skill lasts longer—you build no ultimate when it’s up.
The only issue is the Goliath skill which just needs to be changed. The life-draining morph is fine (and I prefer for tanking and general utility anyway).
The skill itself is only bad if you’re built like paper and not wearing impen/ decent resistances. Yes, even cloth wearers should be in something like Fortified Brass in this meta, or your shields are garbage anyway, since they inherit resistances. The biggest issue with PvP remains people not understanding mechanics or expecting to 1 V X in their leet PVE gear. You either build for PvP or you die. The end. The damage ceiling is too high to not factor defensive mitigation into your builds.Edited by Peekachu99 on June 21, 2019 1:47PM0 -
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✭✭✭Out in the open, mobile classes can avoid this very easily. The Zerg has to spread out, not bunch up. In close quarters it's pretty OP via the fast dps through bash mechanics.
I wonder if making it single target bash instead of aoe would help this.
I'm using ravenous in PvP and people scattered when I transformed, but then saw me scything not bashing and adjusted.
The Bashing morph just looks and feels like abusing a mechanic, doesn't it?Fear is the Mindkiller0 -
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Someone, get this person whatever they want on the drink menu. It's on me.Sandman929 wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »
@Sandman929 Forget class reps, we need a console rep and it's clearly you.Sandman929 wrote: »When this skill be fixed? This skill is ruining whole PvP, there was never a skill that could wipe whole groups just by smashing one button. It's skilless gameplay which brings a lot of frustration into PvP crowd. So here I am asking:
When ZOS decides to balance this broken skill? When you will fix this madness? You really need months to balance something that is beyond any reasonable boundaries? Somehow you could hotfix sieges when they were bugged, but now you don't even notice the issue? How convenient! If we won't acknowledge there is a problem we won't have to fix it!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett
Once again, simple question. When?
Hey, I'm not just going to sit here while you misrepresent the skill it takes to use this.
On console, it's 2 buttons.
It would be exciting to be officially ignored by ZOS
Your friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
New PSN name: SundariTheLast. Proud seller in RedEye Empire, PURPLE GANG and Backalley Trading.
AD High Elf Mageblade DPS (General)(Former Empress) -- Stormproof/VMOL, VHOF, VDSA completion
AD Khajiit Mageblade DPS -- Flawless Conquerer
FOR THE QUEEN!
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Dinokstrun✭✭✭When corpse mechanic and blastbones actually works in PvP and maybe when Necro isn't a dead class in PvP.2 -
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✭Honestly nothing more than a L2P and I dont even play necro I have be able to kite and beat them on a stam NB, mag sorc and stam DK L2P1 -
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✭Never been killed by it. It's very easy to avoid.
Counterplay is a thing.
Edit - I main a DK, and my Necro uses the draining goliath ult.Edited by Drachenfier on June 21, 2019 2:35PM3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Drachenfier wrote: »Never been killed by it. It's very easy to avoid.
Counterplay is a thing.
Edit - I main a DK, and my Necro uses the draining goliath ult.
There your problem there, wrong morph choice.
But anyway its funny when people defend this ult, makes me laugh.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Drachenfier wrote: »Never been killed by it. It's very easy to avoid.
Counterplay is a thing.
Edit - I main a DK, and my Necro uses the draining goliath ult.
There your problem there, wrong morph choice.
But anyway its funny when people defend this ult, makes me laugh.
Makes me laugh when people would rather cry about something than learn how to counter it, but to each their own. I'm not defending it - I don't use it, what I'm doing is telling you to look at your own play first to see where the problem lies.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Has anyone seen two Goliaths go head to head? If it’s as common and “PvP killing” as some say, it has to happen. People might even stop fighting just to watch that. Will the winner be Red Robot or Blue Robot?"Get off my lawn!"3 -
akredon_ESO✭✭✭✭I have played this build and its strong but only against players who dont know how to handle it. If you turtle up and Block or snare and run away you can drain that Necros Stamina Super fast. This goes back to counter play. I was doing like 6k bashes in BGS which i know some people have gotten alot hire, But really the build is easy counter able, Focus stamina draining And focus on CC and snares and it is simple to counter. Basically it dont take the bate to engage unless you know you can tank it1 -
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✭✭✭rotaugen454 wrote: »Has anyone seen two Goliaths go head to head? If it’s as common and “PvP killing” as some say, it has to happen. People might even stop fighting just to watch that. Will the winner be Red Robot or Blue Robot?
I really want to try that with my ravenous, can I scythe and hot enough to cause a draw? It's like Devastator vs Superion while all the normal soldiers fight around you lol. If he's spending his time bashing me instead of my group...tactical win?Fear is the Mindkiller1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭rotaugen454 wrote: »Has anyone seen two Goliaths go head to head? If it’s as common and “PvP killing” as some say, it has to happen. People might even stop fighting just to watch that. Will the winner be Red Robot or Blue Robot?
I've been in a couple of those Goliath V. Goliath battles, as with most things the Goliath with better support comes out on top. What was kind of surprising is that I've also been in a Goliath V. Volundrung battle, and Goliath won.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Darkenarlol wrote: »
Just like NB bombers, Blazing Shields, and every other gimmick out there, if you're not paying attention it's bad news bears.2 -
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✭✭✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »Sandman929 wrote: »When this skill be fixed? This skill is ruining whole PvP, there was never a skill that could wipe whole groups just by smashing one button. It's skilless gameplay which brings a lot of frustration into PvP crowd. So here I am asking:
When ZOS decides to balance this broken skill? When you will fix this madness? You really need months to balance something that is beyond any reasonable boundaries? Somehow you could hotfix sieges when they were bugged, but now you don't even notice the issue? How convenient! If we won't acknowledge there is a problem we won't have to fix it!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett
Once again, simple question. When?
Hey, I'm not just going to sit here while you misrepresent the skill it takes to use this.
On console, it's 2 buttons.
LOL console’n is hard work!
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Mitaka211✭✭✭✭I could not believe how stupid this mechanic is until i used it. You can wipe the entire enemy team in couple of sec , just by spamming bash like a lobotomy patient.
Is this their great vision for ESO.
Two weeks ago i just realized i am not having fun anymore, started playing other games. PVP is a complete mess. Playing my stamplar is underwhelming and boring. Playing my stamnecro makes me feel like a walking cheese ball that tries to get ult so he can wipe out a couple of enemy players. There is no skill to it not anymore. Go in BGs there are nothing but ranged magika casters. Just no, i am done playing for now.
What they can't fix one skill for a month now . It's out of hand.Edited by Mitaka211 on June 21, 2019 6:33PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭david_m_18b16_ESO wrote: »
Yeah right, because I've met few golath abusers for now and know them by their names. I know how to avoid them, but just wait till more comes. You really want to wait till whole Cyrodiil will be flooded by this? Yeah sure because why not, let's see how it ends.
To people who don't see issue with that.
If you haven't met bashing Goliath you have no right to state your opinion. If you met them please show me other skill that can achieve same effect. Counters? What counters you expect me to use as a nonNB character when necro uses immovability potion and has a gapcloser (like all of them). I need to run faster than a gapcloser or roll through whole 20s behind him? Maybe melt his 60k hp pool faster than he kills me? Why I haven't think of that O_o"We are currently investigating connection issues some players are having on the European megaservers. We will update as new information becomes available."
— They always claim they’re “investigating” the causes, but in reality they’re just waiting until the PC EU players go to bed. Once that happens, you can suddenly log in again and they happily mark the issue as Fixed.2 -
EmEm_Oh✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Just make the skill last for 10-12 seconds, like all other defensive ultis do.
Yeah, is the bash supposed to be enabled to be so fast? Initially, I experienced normal bashing...but lately, it's been around 7-10K dmg every 1/3 of a second, times that by three, so in a second, I'm gone. Prob less than that as I had someone just walk up to me and BAM!, dead.
Is the bash typical for 3x with one button push or is it something else, because it seems like It's morphed a little since launch.
Also, thanks to advertising media streams, we now have everyone building this thing.
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