Pummeling Goliath Bash when?

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Sandman929 wrote: »

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

When this skill be fixed? This skill is ruining whole PvP, there was never a skill that could wipe whole groups just by smashing one button. It's skilless gameplay which brings a lot of frustration into PvP crowd. So here I am asking:
When ZOS decides to balance this broken skill? When you will fix this madness? You really need months to balance something that is beyond any reasonable boundaries? Somehow you could hotfix sieges when they were bugged, but now you don't even notice the issue? How convenient! If we won't acknowledge there is a problem we won't have to fix it!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett
Once again, simple question. When?

Hey, I'm not just going to sit here while you misrepresent the skill it takes to use this.

On console, it's 2 buttons.

@Sandman929 Forget class reps, we need a console rep and it's clearly you.

It would be exciting to be officially ignored by ZOS

Ok, that was evil xD and very funny.

EmEm_Oh

akredon_ESO wrote: »

I have played this build and its strong but only against players who dont know how to handle it. If you turtle up and Block or snare and run away you can drain that Necros Stamina Super fast. This goes back to counter play. I was doing like 6k bashes in BGS which i know some people have gotten alot hire, But really the build is easy counter able, Focus stamina draining And focus on CC and snares and it is simple to counter. Basically it dont take the bate to engage unless you know you can tank it

Yeah, that was my suggestion in Cyro, to snare, caltrops, boneyard, etc. Not sure if they are immune to any of those, however.

The problem I foresee, as others have mentioned, is more of them appearing. It might be the nature of Cyro for a while, because any new class is going to be played with the most. Maybe have 2 classes introduced at the same time versus just one.

I think over time, Necro will be another choice like any other class, and we won't be focusing so much on it. In meantime, it will be painful.

Some issues as to the dmg in such a small amount of time I still have, but I recommend what you're saying entirely and that is...avoid and don't engage or do it tactfully.

Jaraal

Squidgaurd wrote: »

Prolly when elswher sales start to wane. Prolly

Agreed. Remember how broken Sloads was when they released Summerset? And how fast we got to run around with Swift trait? Once sales dropped off, they nerfed those things. Probably will be their strategy with this, and the Khajiit stealth set stacking, too.

Hashtag_

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Just make the skill last for 10-12 seconds, like all other defensive ultis do.

They need to remove the ultimate generation lock then. That’s why the skill lasts longer—you build no ultimate when it’s up.

The only issue is the Goliath skill which just needs to be changed. The life-draining morph is fine (and I prefer for tanking and general utility anyway).

The skill itself is only bad if you’re built like paper and not wearing impen/ decent resistances. Yes, even cloth wearers should be in something like Fortified Brass in this meta, or your shields are garbage anyway, since they inherit resistances. The biggest issue with PvP remains people not understanding mechanics or expecting to 1 V X in their leet PVE gear. You either build for PvP or you die. The end. The damage ceiling is too high to not factor defensive mitigation into your builds.

This skill hits harder than any ult over the same duration since you can bash 2-3 times a second. If need to be reduced to 12 seconds in line with corrosive in which the devs compared it to.

nekura

A duration change won’t fix this skill. If they make a cooldown change to bash they will likely make combat even less responsive than it already is.

The most logical thing to do with the fewest overarching combat consequences would be to replace the bash with another feature.

Jeremy

Mayrael wrote: »

When this skill be fixed? This skill is ruining whole PvP, there was never a skill that could wipe whole groups just by smashing one button. It's skilless gameplay which brings a lot of frustration into PvP crowd. So here I am asking:
When ZOS decides to balance this broken skill? When you will fix this madness? You really need months to balance something that is beyond any reasonable boundaries? Somehow you could hotfix sieges when they were bugged, but now you don't even notice the issue? How convenient! If we won't acknowledge there is a problem we won't have to fix it!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RobGarrett
Once again, simple question. When?

Yeah, that move is beyond stupid right now. I don't know why the developers of this game are so obsessed with making you die so quickly. It really does ruin this game's PvP.

Jeremy

nekura wrote: »

A duration change won’t fix this skill. If they make a cooldown change to bash they will likely make combat even less responsive than it already is.

The most logical thing to do with the fewest overarching combat consequences would be to replace the bash with another feature.

Or reduce its speed. That's what makes it so ungoldy OP. It hits like a machine gun. I can die in less than a second from it and then look at my combat log and it's literally flooded with 6k goliath bashes...

RedGirl41

STILL waiting for console nerf. It takes 5 minutes to make a post AND ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE with your console player base. We all pay you endless amount of money for this game. Really not hard to respond to us when we say SINCE THE PTS that bash build was broken.

Just give us pc account transfers already because console is always getting left second class. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_GregoryV @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Btw pve is broken too. Can’t see any ads spawn in or most mechanics. Plan on fixing this before the new dungeons release orrrrr

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

RedGirl41 wrote: »

STILL waiting for console nerf. It takes 5 minutes to make a post AND ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE with your console player base. We all pay you endless amount of money for this game. Really not hard to respond to us when we say SINCE THE PTS that bash build was broken.

Just give us pc account transfers already because console is always getting left second class. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_GregoryV @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Btw pve is broken too. Can’t see any ads spawn in or most mechanics. Plan on fixing this before the new dungeons release orrrrr

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6250054/#Comment_6250054

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).

would take 2 minutes for you to search the forums.

SweepsAllClowns

Jaraal wrote: »

Why would they fix it? It's selling copies of Elsweyr left and right.

The strength of the ultimate was well discussed on the PTS, if it wasn't working as intended, it would have been nerfed before being pushed to the live server.

Exactly, this has happened too many times now and I simply don't believe that Zenimax is so bad with balancing. They will keep it as overpowered few months so many frustrated players have had enough pummelbashed and finally buy Elsweyr just to get even with these highly skilled players. After few months they have planned their heavy nerfing, players get butthurt and there's rage on forum for few weeks, then they get tired and calm down because Zenimax cares about skeever's arse. They probably have the new overpowered thing planned already, this clearly planned strategy with new overpowered classes, abilities and sets works very well and they most likely keep it going. ESO hasn't been about balance or performance for a long time, but simply collecting the money and shutting down the most negative critisism. Just works!

Aurielle

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

RedGirl41 wrote: »

STILL waiting for console nerf. It takes 5 minutes to make a post AND ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE with your console player base. We all pay you endless amount of money for this game. Really not hard to respond to us when we say SINCE THE PTS that bash build was broken.

Just give us pc account transfers already because console is always getting left second class. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_GregoryV @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Btw pve is broken too. Can’t see any ads spawn in or most mechanics. Plan on fixing this before the new dungeons release orrrrr

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6250054/#Comment_6250054

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).

would take 2 minutes for you to search the forums.

To be fair, this was a single response embedded within one of the numerous threads that frustrated console PVPers have opened on this subject. Frankly, I’m surprised that a more formal and visible announcement has not been made, given the number of people who are rightfully upset about this issue.

WeylandLabs

@ZOS_GinaBruno Close plz

frostz417

Darkenarlol wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

there was never a skill that could wipe whole groups just by smashing one button.

never heard about bomb blades?

1 thether after pre-buffs and voila


like the bombers goliaths kills only absolute scrubs

The amount of ignorance
Bomb blades don’t have 60k health and their abilities don’t bypass global cooldown, same with blaze plars.
Bomb blades and blaze plars can be negated unlike Goliath.

RedGirl41

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

RedGirl41 wrote: »

STILL waiting for console nerf. It takes 5 minutes to make a post AND ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE with your console player base. We all pay you endless amount of money for this game. Really not hard to respond to us when we say SINCE THE PTS that bash build was broken.

Just give us pc account transfers already because console is always getting left second class. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_GregoryV @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Btw pve is broken too. Can’t see any ads spawn in or most mechanics. Plan on fixing this before the new dungeons release orrrrr

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6250054/#Comment_6250054

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

The changes to Bash and Pummeling Goliath will be included in the next console update with Update 23 (August 27).

would take 2 minutes for you to search the forums.

It would also take two minutes for an official employee to acknowledge something. Console has a lot of problems with bash builds and also in pve all the adds and mechanics showing up late or not at all. No need to be petty. I knew since day one of elswyer it wasn’t getting changed till next dlc.