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Would you pay money for a DLC that had only performance fixes and no new content?
Neoauspex
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Added for clarity:
Would you contribute to ZoS' quarterly revenue target for them to not release new content and work on performance. Not: p2w some people get performance fixes and others don't.
Edited by Neoauspex on June 20, 2019 8:53PM Would you contribute to ZoS' quarterly revenue target for them to not release new content and work on performance. Not: p2w some people get performance fixes and others don't.
Would you pay money for a DLC that had only performance fixes and no new content? 447 votes
Yes, I'd pay full price
24%
108 votes
No, that's ridiculous
71%
319 votes
I have a better idea
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20 votes
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Suddwrath✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Or DLC that doesn't cost any money but still includes the fixes and performance improvements
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EDS604✭✭✭They're making enough money off of us already, it should be included in the servicePC EU, Guildleader of "Death By Gargoyle".36 -
sp_korshun✭✭✭Technically it would be base game patch, not dlc, so it must be free for all players.25 -
TheNightflame✭✭✭✭✭I've stopped paying until DLCs are playable at a high level, which is impossible WITH severe PERFORMANCE ISSUES3 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't think I've ever read anything that stupid, from all points of view. Any game that segregates players in any way ends up dead. Needing to pay for better is a death wish, no matter how you slice it. Pay to win in the worst form.
Please delete this post and save others from this embarrassment.11 -
ArenGesus✭✭✭✭✭Obviously you can't fix the broken base game and performance issues with a dlc, but along the same lines, I would gladly resume my sub and buy future chapters if I believed for a second that they were attempting to fix lag and lfg.1
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Sandman929✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm not sure if a working game should go from being a reasonable expectation to being considered "bonus content".4 -
ArenGesus✭✭✭✭✭I don't think I've ever read anything that stupid, from all points of view. Any game that segregates players in any way ends up dead. Needing to pay for better is a death wish, no matter how you slice it. Pay to win in the worst form.
Please delete this post and save others from this embarrassment.
I mean, if you don't want to pay for a game that works, I guess that's fine. Not sure why you have to insult those who suggest they'd be willing to support improvements with money rather than expanded content (that currently can't be used).1 -
UntilValhalla13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭We do pay them money for such things. It's from eso+, all of the crown store crap, etc. They're making bank from selling fake houses to people for over a hundred dollars. They can afford to hire a few more people to fix the game3 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭why should or even I would to pay for something waht should be in basic in product of which I have currently bought?
there was nowhere written info like "we doesnt provide you working product" or "this product is flawed but its an feature of this product"
if someone would sell me and rotten/moldy or badly coocked product inside which is not visible outside I could call for sanepid and they will make very fast regularity with sellers of this product casuing them to pay or even close their buisness because not acceptabble to sell broken not working product and poisoning your customers and then sayign it is nothing bad with it, its jsut feature of this product about which we havnt informed anyone, its surprise!2 -
Neoauspex✭✭✭✭✭
✭why should or even I would to pay for something waht should be in basic in product of which I have currently bought?
there was nowhere written info like "we doesnt provide you working product" or "this product is flawed but its an feature of this product"
if someone would sell me and rotten/moldy or badly coocked product inside which is not visible outside I could call for sanepid and they will make very fast regularity with sellers of this product casuing them to pay or even close their buisness because not acceptabble to sell broken not working product and poisoning your customers and then sayign it is nothing bad with it, its jsut feature of this product about which we havnt informed anyone, its surprise!
It literally does say that in the terms of service0 -
ArenGesus✭✭✭✭✭Obviously this is why performance will never improve. Few people are willing to pay for a game that only delivers improvements. In fact, most seem to think the concept is ridiculous. It's a valid opinion, but the simple fact is that it leads to where we are. Enjoy your next broken patch - you can pay or you can pay, but they aren't going to fix anything until the players say they'll pay for that.
What the white nights don't understand is that people are struck down by crippling issues apparently at random. Anybody could be next and defending zos in the forums won't win you any favors with them when it happens to you too.1 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't think I've ever read anything that stupid, from all points of view. Any game that segregates players in any way ends up dead. Needing to pay for better is a death wish, no matter how you slice it. Pay to win in the worst form.
Please delete this post and save others from this embarrassment.
I mean, if you don't want to pay for a game that works, I guess that's fine. Not sure why you have to insult those who suggest they'd be willing to support improvements with money rather than expanded content (that currently can't be used).
Every. Single. Player. Payed. For. It.
Can it get any simpler than that?
P2w won't fly. Games for because of it.5 -
ArenGesus✭✭✭✭✭I don't think I've ever read anything that stupid, from all points of view. Any game that segregates players in any way ends up dead. Needing to pay for better is a death wish, no matter how you slice it. Pay to win in the worst form.
Please delete this post and save others from this embarrassment.
I mean, if you don't want to pay for a game that works, I guess that's fine. Not sure why you have to insult those who suggest they'd be willing to support improvements with money rather than expanded content (that currently can't be used).
Every. Single. Player. Payed. For. It.
Can it get any simpler than that?
P2w won't fly. Games for because of it.
I agree 100%, which is why I cancelled my sub and stopped playing. My point is, if were possible to believe that they would actually implement improvements, I'd be willing to sub again and buy the next expansion. I don't want more content in the next release, I want the game I already paid for to work.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The idea is patently absurd as Zos cannot provide performance fixes to only some players. That should be obvious that the OP's idea is just not workable.
Further, players leave games that do not add content. Yes, we want the game to run better but we have spoken with a much louder voice when Zos did not add new content.
We took our money elsewhere and many never brought there money back. That is sticking it to the man like can be done in no other way.1 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't think I've ever read anything that stupid, from all points of view. Any game that segregates players in any way ends up dead. Needing to pay for better is a death wish, no matter how you slice it. Pay to win in the worst form.
Please delete this post and save others from this embarrassment.
I mean, if you don't want to pay for a game that works, I guess that's fine. Not sure why you have to insult those who suggest they'd be willing to support improvements with money rather than expanded content (that currently can't be used).
Every. Single. Player. Payed. For. It.
Can it get any simpler than that?
P2w won't fly. Games for because of it.
I agree 100%, which is why I cancelled my sub and stopped playing. My point is, if were possible to believe that they would actually implement improvements, I'd be willing to sub again and buy the next expansion. I don't want more content in the next release, I want the game I already paid for to work.
That I agree. 100%. But we shouldn't have to pay for it... That's community breaking.
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ArenGesus✭✭✭✭✭I don't think I've ever read anything that stupid, from all points of view. Any game that segregates players in any way ends up dead. Needing to pay for better is a death wish, no matter how you slice it. Pay to win in the worst form.
Please delete this post and save others from this embarrassment.
I mean, if you don't want to pay for a game that works, I guess that's fine. Not sure why you have to insult those who suggest they'd be willing to support improvements with money rather than expanded content (that currently can't be used).
Every. Single. Player. Payed. For. It.
Can it get any simpler than that?
P2w won't fly. Games for because of it.
I agree 100%, which is why I cancelled my sub and stopped playing. My point is, if were possible to believe that they would actually implement improvements, I'd be willing to sub again and buy the next expansion. I don't want more content in the next release, I want the game I already paid for to work.
That I agree. 100%. But we shouldn't have to pay for it... That's community breaking.
I agree with that too - or rather, I agree that we already paid for it. Still, just saying - if the next dlc release cycle brought nothing but lag reduction, I'd be back on my sub in a heartbeat. Might even buy some crates, even though they're lame, just to show them I'm happy they decided against releasing more bugs and lag on top of what we already have.1 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭why should or even I would to pay for something waht should be in basic in product of which I have currently bought?
there was nowhere written info like "we doesnt provide you working product" or "this product is flawed but its an feature of this product"
if someone would sell me and rotten/moldy or badly coocked product inside which is not visible outside I could call for sanepid and they will make very fast regularity with sellers of this product casuing them to pay or even close their buisness because not acceptabble to sell broken not working product and poisoning your customers and then sayign it is nothing bad with it, its jsut feature of this product about which we havnt informed anyone, its surprise!
It literally does say that in the terms of service
so it does say how great company they are and for what many are paying
guess its time to start burning some money per month instead of paying sub here or allocate moeny from sub to other addiction idk even drugs maybe? maybe it will destroy my life but actually it will be working product
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Thorvik_Tyrson✭✭✭I mean, if you don't want to pay for a game that works, I guess that's fine. Not sure why you have to insult those who suggest they'd be willing to support improvements with money rather than expanded content (that currently can't be used).
Because, when we bought the game (and for me that was 2 months ago), we expected that we were purchasing a game that worked. As with any new content/expansion to an MMO, I expect that there will be both technical and performance issues with trying to play the newer content right after release. This happens in every MMO that I have played. I do not expect that there will be a further charge for a company to fix those issues.
My opinion.
Thanks
Thorvik
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Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭that's not a dlc lmao
i really don't know what kind of question you're trying to ask my friendskingrad when zoscharacters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
- EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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