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Ayastigi
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The lag is ridiculous and we need to keep bringing this up to them so they acknowledge it. When cast times were added to shields players flooded the forum and zos took note..if we do the same with this problem they'll take action.
  • Roymachine
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    I'll drink to that. We need some answers on the console lag since Elsweyr patch. I just got some friends into the game with this newest update and they are already talking about leaving because it isn't fun with all the lag.
  • therift
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    Ayastigi wrote: »
    The lag is ridiculous and we need to keep bringing this up to them so they acknowledge it. When cast times were added to shields players flooded the forum and zos took note..if we do the same with this problem they'll take action.

    This is completely incorrect.

    First, the moderators will delete excess threads because they interfere with all the other topics players may wish to discuss.

    Second, it was our Class Reps who lobbied (successfully) for elimination of shield cast times; most if that feedback was collected in the Class Rep discords, only some from the Forums

    Third, advocating that players disrupt the Forum, which is private property, will only result in moderation action against you.
  • Ayastigi
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    therift wrote: »
    Ayastigi wrote: »
    The lag is ridiculous and we need to keep bringing this up to them so they acknowledge it. When cast times were added to shields players flooded the forum and zos took note..if we do the same with this problem they'll take action.

    This is completely incorrect.

    First, the moderators will delete excess threads because they interfere with all the other topics players may wish to discuss.

    Second, it was our Class Reps who lobbied (successfully) for elimination of shield cast times; most if that feedback was collected in the Class Rep discords, only some from the Forums

    Third, advocating that players disrupt the Forum, which is private property, will only result in moderation action against you.

    Bet you let people walk all over you in real life too lol
  • yodased
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    Ayastigi wrote: »
    therift wrote: »
    Ayastigi wrote: »
    The lag is ridiculous and we need to keep bringing this up to them so they acknowledge it. When cast times were added to shields players flooded the forum and zos took note..if we do the same with this problem they'll take action.

    This is completely incorrect.

    First, the moderators will delete excess threads because they interfere with all the other topics players may wish to discuss.

    Second, it was our Class Reps who lobbied (successfully) for elimination of shield cast times; most if that feedback was collected in the Class Rep discords, only some from the Forums

    Third, advocating that players disrupt the Forum, which is private property, will only result in moderation action against you.

    Bet you let people walk all over you in real life too lol

    Being obnoxious and creating a scene isn't being strong. The strong move quiet, the weak start riots.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Ayastigi
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    yodased wrote: »
    Ayastigi wrote: »
    therift wrote: »
    Ayastigi wrote: »
    The lag is ridiculous and we need to keep bringing this up to them so they acknowledge it. When cast times were added to shields players flooded the forum and zos took note..if we do the same with this problem they'll take action.

    This is completely incorrect.

    First, the moderators will delete excess threads because they interfere with all the other topics players may wish to discuss.

    Second, it was our Class Reps who lobbied (successfully) for elimination of shield cast times; most if that feedback was collected in the Class Rep discords, only some from the Forums

    Third, advocating that players disrupt the Forum, which is private property, will only result in moderation action against you.

    Bet you let people walk all over you in real life too lol

    Being obnoxious and creating a scene isn't being strong. The strong move quiet, the weak start riots.

    You're just telling yourself that because you're scared of action being taking against you for starting a scene. You're obviously afraid of the potential consequences of speaking up
  • Mayrael
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    I think ZOS knows perfectly fine that there is a problem with latency and they know what they need to do, they simply refuse to do it because it means spending money.
    "We are currently investigating connection issues some players are having on the European megaservers. We will update as new information becomes available."
    — They always claim they’re “investigating” the causes, but in reality they’re just waiting until the PC EU players go to bed. Once that happens, you can suddenly log in again and they happily mark the issue as Fixed.
  • dtsharples
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    PC EU - Cyrodiil - Delay in Doors opening again. Exactly the same as last Monday.
  • yodased
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    Ayastigi wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    Ayastigi wrote: »
    therift wrote: »
    Ayastigi wrote: »
    The lag is ridiculous and we need to keep bringing this up to them so they acknowledge it. When cast times were added to shields players flooded the forum and zos took note..if we do the same with this problem they'll take action.

    This is completely incorrect.

    First, the moderators will delete excess threads because they interfere with all the other topics players may wish to discuss.

    Second, it was our Class Reps who lobbied (successfully) for elimination of shield cast times; most if that feedback was collected in the Class Rep discords, only some from the Forums

    Third, advocating that players disrupt the Forum, which is private property, will only result in moderation action against you.

    Bet you let people walk all over you in real life too lol

    Being obnoxious and creating a scene isn't being strong. The strong move quiet, the weak start riots.

    You're just telling yourself that because you're scared of action being taking against you for starting a scene. You're obviously afraid of the potential consequences of speaking up

    Take the time to go through 6 years of posting history from me an then come back and tell me i'm afraid of anything on this message board.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
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    Until major gaming sites, etc dont come out and tell the whole truth about ESO(which they wont beacuse of $$) it wont happen.
    A really small percentage of the playerbase even cares about the forums.
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    Forums, gaming site comments section, social media, youtube, reddit, etc....hell send emails/vids to every office on this link.

    Make sure to include ss &/or video clips, or it never happened.
    Help zos fix ESO.

    https://www.zenimax.com/about
    Edited by Wolfpaw on June 17, 2019 6:54PM
  • Ayastigi
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    Firstmep wrote: »
    Until major gaming sites, etc dont come out and tell the whole truth about ESO(which they wont beacuse of $$) it wont happen.
    A really small percentage of the playerbase even cares about the forums.

    I understand that but we don't need to roll over and take it even if nobody is going to help us. Speaking up is the main tool we have and we need to speak up until they acknowledge the performance issues
  • yodased
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    So your goal is to harass a company on a platform that is completely and 100% controlled by the people you are harrassing.

    Good luck~
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Rygonix
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    Word of mouth is the only uncensorable way to make or break a business. If anyone you know (friend, acquaintance or just someone on the street) was talking or considering about coming to ESO let them know the issues in the most unbiased way you can. So that things like
    yodased wrote: »
    So your goal is to harass a company on a platform that is completely and 100% controlled by the people you are harrassing.

    Good luck~
    can be completely avoided.

    This has been how humans have dealt with unfriendly businesses since we started bartering and trading thousands of years ago.
    Ceres Des Mortem-Dark Elf Templar, EP
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    Rygonix wrote: »
    Word of mouth is the only uncensorable way to make or break a business. If anyone you know (friend, acquaintance or just someone on the street) was talking or considering about coming to ESO let them know the issues in the most unbiased way you can. So that things like
    yodased wrote: »
    So your goal is to harass a company on a platform that is completely and 100% controlled by the people you are harrassing.

    Good luck~
    can be completely avoided.

    This has been how humans have dealt with unfriendly businesses since we started bartering and trading thousands of years ago.

    Well the most effective way to change a business is to stop doing business with them. I've learned that complaining about doing something while doing that thing only makes you look foolish, so I try to not complain while still doing the thing.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • arena25
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    As much as I understand you have gripes about the game, OP, I think you and I both know what's going to happen to this thread once mods file back into their cubicles after their water break:
    If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!
  • Rygonix
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    yodased wrote: »
    Well the most effective way to change a business is to stop doing business with them.
    That's an effective way, but you missed my point. Corporations listen to one thing - money. If enough negative press and word of mouth gets out it will be loud enough that even the shareholders will not be able to ignore it. That's how change happens in today's corporate-run economy.

    Also we're not complaining just to complain - we want the game to be better and it hurts to see it in such a sorry shape. We're just acting in the only way that seems to bring change in the hope it becomes better - not worse.
    Ceres Des Mortem-Dark Elf Templar, EP
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  • yodased
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    Rygonix wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    Well the most effective way to change a business is to stop doing business with them.
    That's an effective way, but you missed my point. Corporations listen to one thing - money. If enough negative press and word of mouth gets out it will be loud enough that even the shareholders will not be able to ignore it. That's how change happens in today's corporate-run economy.

    Also we're not complaining just to complain - we want the game to be better and it hurts to see it in such a sorry shape. We're just acting in the only way that seems to bring change in the hope it becomes better - not worse.

    You are still using the platform provided by the people you are complaining about to do it. Does the irony of the situation not register?

    You want to affect change, take it to somewhere they can't silence you with impunity is the point lol
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Rygonix
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    All I am trying to do is get the ball rolling. What happens beyond that point I do not know nor do I mind. Even if just a few people read it before it gets taken down then it's still a start. I just want the game to improve, and say my piece.
    Ceres Des Mortem-Dark Elf Templar, EP
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  • Ayastigi
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    Rygonix wrote: »
    All I am trying to do is get the ball rolling. What happens beyond that point I do not know nor do I mind. Even if just a few people read it before it gets taken down then it's still a start. I just want the game to improve, and say my piece.

    Exactly, every little bit helps. They can close this thread, hand out bans, and all of the above but we still have to speak up because the performance problems are out of hand. @yodased if you have a problem with us voicing our discontent that's all fine and well but telling people don't even bother because nothing will get fixed just makes you sound scary to me. Before you reply, i don't care that's all I have to say
    Edited by Ayastigi on June 17, 2019 8:49PM
  • Ogou
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    From the Forums Rules:
    Spamming: Please do not post spam on the official The Elder Scrolls Online forums. Below are a few examples of what we define as spamming:Posting the same message more than oncePosting messages that are nonsensical or have no real contentPosting messages or images large enough to disrupt the normal flow of conversationReposting material that has been removed by a member of the ESO Team
    Also, please refrain from posting the same topic in multiple areas of the forum, or cross-posting in an attempt to gain further views or replies. This is considered spamming, and the duplicate threads will be removed.

    Maybe the forums aren't the best place for that.
  • Goregrinder
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    Yeah I think the bare min requirement before they create a support ticket to their developers is 10 threads an hour. Anything below that, and they don't bother...yeah that's definitely how it works....like...for sure...I've seen Wildstar use the same system...
  • frostz417
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    Bump all the lag threads
  • Hyperion616
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    Ayastigi wrote: »
    The lag is ridiculous and we need to keep bringing this up to them so they acknowledge it. When cast times were added to shields players flooded the forum and zos took note..if we do the same with this problem they'll take action.

    Keep creating threads, I am sure Zos will take notice as they roll around in Microtransaction $$$ from the store. Hey, guys, this lag is horrible.... Is anything being done about it???

    Yes, we noticed, but are having problems responding over the money pouring in from people using the store. We will keep you posted when that revenue stops.
    I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it.

    ~Edith Sitwell

  • jadarock
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    Zos , How about actually playing your own game on every single platform huh?
    That would be a start...
    We shouldn't need to set the barn on fire.
    If only they'd experience all these issues themselves we'd get somewhere.

    The "not everyone experiences these issues"
    Is a bs excuse. It's time.....
    Edited by jadarock on June 17, 2019 9:40PM
  • yodased
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    Ayastigi wrote: »
    Rygonix wrote: »
    All I am trying to do is get the ball rolling. What happens beyond that point I do not know nor do I mind. Even if just a few people read it before it gets taken down then it's still a start. I just want the game to improve, and say my piece.

    Exactly, every little bit helps. They can close this thread, hand out bans, and all of the above but we still have to speak up because the performance problems are out of hand. @yodased if you have a problem with us voicing our discontent that's all fine and well but telling people don't even bother because nothing will get fixed just makes you sound scary to me. Before you reply, i don't care that's all I have to say

    I am scary actually. Downright frightening what my particular skillset can do. Also if you "don't care" about someone's reply, don't tag them.

    The only point trying to be made is you are screaming into a canyon and asking others to do it with you. Making a fuss on the platform about the platform is a fruitless endeavor.

    You want to enact change in something you love, that is admirable, but you are going about it the wrong way. You are trying to fight an unwinnable battle against an opponent that has every advantage literally possible over you.

    Take it to a place they can't silence you and you may have a chance, continue here, or don't. Doesn't really matter in the end anyway, but you dont care about my response. soooooo heres a link how to survive 10 common animal attacks

    https://animalogic.ca/blog/how-to-survive-10-random-but-common-animal-attacks

    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Massacre_Wurm
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    Of course they know about this issues. There is some possible reasons for not doing anything ;

    1. They cant.
    2. Fixing is cost-ineffective.
    3. They doing something else.

    Creating more threads will not help. You either accepting things as it is or leaving.
  • LiraTaurwen
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    yodased wrote: »
    Ayastigi wrote: »
    therift wrote: »
    Ayastigi wrote: »
    The lag is ridiculous and we need to keep bringing this up to them so they acknowledge it. When cast times were added to shields players flooded the forum and zos took note..if we do the same with this problem they'll take action.

    This is completely incorrect.

    First, the moderators will delete excess threads because they interfere with all the other topics players may wish to discuss.

    Second, it was our Class Reps who lobbied (successfully) for elimination of shield cast times; most if that feedback was collected in the Class Rep discords, only some from the Forums

    Third, advocating that players disrupt the Forum, which is private property, will only result in moderation action against you.

    Bet you let people walk all over you in real life too lol

    Being obnoxious and creating a scene isn't being strong. The strong move quiet, the weak start riots.

    Sounds alot like something powerful rich people and politics would say to keep the masses quiet lol
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    The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

    @yodased
    Great point made and as funny as your closing was lol .That is the side bar stuff that gets threads like these locked. I swear zos waits for those types of responses and secretly thanks you.....
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    therift wrote: »
    Ayastigi wrote: »
    The lag is ridiculous and we need to keep bringing this up to them so they acknowledge it. When cast times were added to shields players flooded the forum and zos took note..if we do the same with this problem they'll take action.

    This is completely incorrect.

    First, the moderators will delete excess threads because they interfere with all the other topics players may wish to discuss.

    Second, it was our Class Reps who lobbied (successfully) for elimination of shield cast times; most if that feedback was collected in the Class Rep discords, only some from the Forums

    Third, advocating that players disrupt the Forum, which is private property, will only result in moderation action against you.

    We just make more threads than they an possibly moderate they have to listen when we out number them and pay their wages
  • therift
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    therift wrote: »
    Ayastigi wrote: »
    The lag is ridiculous and we need to keep bringing this up to them so they acknowledge it. When cast times were added to shields players flooded the forum and zos took note..if we do the same with this problem they'll take action.

    This is completely incorrect.

    First, the moderators will delete excess threads because they interfere with all the other topics players may wish to discuss.

    Second, it was our Class Reps who lobbied (successfully) for elimination of shield cast times; most if that feedback was collected in the Class Rep discords, only some from the Forums

    Third, advocating that players disrupt the Forum, which is private property, will only result in moderation action against you.

    We just make more threads than they an possibly moderate they have to listen when we out number them and pay their wages

    Pure idiocy.
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