Do you think The Elder Scrolls Online is a good, or a bad game?

Mancombe_Nosehair · June 2019

It's a good game when it works properly.

Zer0oo · June 2019

Good game but really bad performance that goes to unplayable during prime time, riddled with bugs and many bad dev decisions. Also the official communication from zos about so issues is really bad and same goes with fixing issues or balancing things.

Wifeaggro13 · June 2019

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to find out another, if not, many other posts like this exist, but I wanna give it a shot. I was talking with a friend at work last night about the game, and to sum up the conversation, he doesn't think ESO is a good game. I found it preposterous, since his reasoning was "There's no central player store." It reminded me of how people nitpick at the little things that aren't in the game, or should be removed, or at least changed, and then go on to make that the one reason the game is "bad". And although I have no way to stop joke votes, I still ask that you be completely honest. Do you think that ESO is a good, or bad game?

its neither its a exercise in mediocrity , its a game that ticks a lot of boxes but does non of them welll

not_without_coffee · June 2019

good game. definitely. love it

Tandor · June 2019

Wifeaggro13 wrote: »

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to find out another, if not, many other posts like this exist, but I wanna give it a shot. I was talking with a friend at work last night about the game, and to sum up the conversation, he doesn't think ESO is a good game. I found it preposterous, since his reasoning was "There's no central player store." It reminded me of how people nitpick at the little things that aren't in the game, or should be removed, or at least changed, and then go on to make that the one reason the game is "bad". And although I have no way to stop joke votes, I still ask that you be completely honest. Do you think that ESO is a good, or bad game?

its neither its a exercise in mediocrity , its a game that ticks a lot of boxes but does non of them welll

Care to explain? That's very much a tiny minority view given that even the game's critics think that it does a lot of things extremely well, they just think it does some other things extremely badly. They wouldn't still be here if they thought there was nothing that was done well - so why, out of interest, are you still here if you think the whole thing is mediocre? It's not like there isn't any competition in the market.

frostz417 · June 2019

Great game with a lot of potential. It’s just ran Extremely poorly

Myrm · June 2019

Tandor wrote: »

Wifeaggro13 wrote: »

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to find out another, if not, many other posts like this exist, but I wanna give it a shot. I was talking with a friend at work last night about the game, and to sum up the conversation, he doesn't think ESO is a good game. I found it preposterous, since his reasoning was "There's no central player store." It reminded me of how people nitpick at the little things that aren't in the game, or should be removed, or at least changed, and then go on to make that the one reason the game is "bad". And although I have no way to stop joke votes, I still ask that you be completely honest. Do you think that ESO is a good, or bad game?

its neither its a exercise in mediocrity , its a game that ticks a lot of boxes but does non of them welll

Care to explain? That's very much a tiny minority view given that even the game's critics think that it does a lot of things extremely well, they just think it does some other things extremely badly. They wouldn't still be here if they thought there was nothing that was done well - so why, out of interest, are you still here if you think the whole thing is mediocre? It's not like there isn't any competition in the market.

And this, unfortunately, is where the thread will start to go downhill.

AcadianPaladin · June 2019

Tandor wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I find ESO to be a very good game.

I enjoy the mass and scale, great graphics & music, open world, 'medieval fantasy' theme that I also enjoyed in Oblivion and Skyrim. I also find the combat system pretty good and, for the first time in Elder Scrolls history, staves are actually good weapons! Like all large games, there are activities/questlines I'm not interested in but I do enjoy the questlines that suit my character.

The game's biggest detractor for me is that it is multiplayer, with all the drawbacks that come with that (no mods, a hopeless fetish to 'balance' things and having other humans mucking about in the same areas as my character). So, though I'm a soloist by nature, ESO works for me. For now.

Why, given that your signature indicates you play on PC, do you say that there are no mods? I personally haven't used a single one since PC launch but the addons are there if you want them, plus you can make your own.

Sorry I was not clear. I do use a small number of available UI addons. By mods, I meant more fundamental changes to the game that can be done with single player games. Like give my sorc a wolf combat companion, make my horse stay put when I dismount, harvest while mounted, change mechanics, effects, range of spells and bows. In fairness, the devs of ESO paid attention to the work of Skyrim and Oblivion modders and many features that are not in conflict with multiplayer were nicely incorporated into ESO. ESO is very playable without mods which is not something I could say about Skyrim.

Wifeaggro13 · June 2019

Tandor wrote: »

Wifeaggro13 wrote: »

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to find out another, if not, many other posts like this exist, but I wanna give it a shot. I was talking with a friend at work last night about the game, and to sum up the conversation, he doesn't think ESO is a good game. I found it preposterous, since his reasoning was "There's no central player store." It reminded me of how people nitpick at the little things that aren't in the game, or should be removed, or at least changed, and then go on to make that the one reason the game is "bad". And although I have no way to stop joke votes, I still ask that you be completely honest. Do you think that ESO is a good, or bad game?

its neither its a exercise in mediocrity , its a game that ticks a lot of boxes but does non of them welll

Care to explain? That's very much a tiny minority view given that even the game's critics think that it does a lot of things extremely well, they just think it does some other things extremely badly. They wouldn't still be here if they thought there was nothing that was done well - so why, out of interest, are you still here if you think the whole thing is mediocre? It's not like there isn't any competition in the market.

i refuse to purchase anything after morrowind . Here , is a list .

1. and this is major no game has left their alternate advancement a flat system tyhat leads to no where. 5 years post launch i would expect the CP system to have evolved and have role and class definition with active abilities unlocked. games with far less of aa budget have been able to expand alternate advancment class and race selections by 3 x the amount ZOS has with a massive budget.

2) . content is essentialy the same since the released wrothgar its copy and paste leveing content with no levels or emegrging game play. matter o fact game play has gone backwards in all area's performance emergence and complexcity.

3). they charge extremely high dollar compared to what other MMO's give for a expansion, im not talking about the quarterly DLC im talking about chapters.

rotaugen454 · June 2019

Well, 5 years and several thousand hours in, so I’d be a complete idiot if It was something I considered a bad game. Why would anyone put that much time into something they considered bad?

xSkullfox · June 2019

7.5/10
Game still needs more love, many bugs and missing basic features.

gepe87 · June 2019

But with a lot of flaws and devs nearly absent to deal with major problems.

DaveMoeDee · June 2019

I enjoy the game.

Not sure what the point is in trying to label it good or bad.

Wifeaggro13 · June 2019

Myrm wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Wifeaggro13 wrote: »

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to find out another, if not, many other posts like this exist, but I wanna give it a shot. I was talking with a friend at work last night about the game, and to sum up the conversation, he doesn't think ESO is a good game. I found it preposterous, since his reasoning was "There's no central player store." It reminded me of how people nitpick at the little things that aren't in the game, or should be removed, or at least changed, and then go on to make that the one reason the game is "bad". And although I have no way to stop joke votes, I still ask that you be completely honest. Do you think that ESO is a good, or bad game?

its neither its a exercise in mediocrity , its a game that ticks a lot of boxes but does non of them welll

Care to explain? That's very much a tiny minority view given that even the game's critics think that it does a lot of things extremely well, they just think it does some other things extremely badly. They wouldn't still be here if they thought there was nothing that was done well - so why, out of interest, are you still here if you think the whole thing is mediocre? It's not like there isn't any competition in the market.

And this, unfortunately, is where the thread will start to go downhill.

no it wont i dont fault anyone for having the opinion of it being great. Ive been playing MMOs since 1999. so ive seen the pinacle and the decline. of course ESO has done some very cool things but depth and emerging game play is not one of them.

VDoom1 · June 2019

Good or bad....how about epic? Off the charts!

I have played several MMO games. Star Wars Knights of The Old Republic, Lord of The Rings Online, Star Trek Online, World of Warcraft. None of them are bad, no. I spent a lot of time in SW:KoToR and WoW, less in Star Trek and LOTRO.

I have to say...ESO wins, plain and simple. The fact that we are still playing it after 5 years proves that. Would we play a bad game? Doubt it.

One thing I really really like is that the people who fell in love with any of the previous Elder Scrolls games now get nearly all of Tamriel in 1 game. With epic graphics.

Oblivion was the game for me, after that I was an Elder Scrolls fan. Now I don't appreciate the mess going on in Cyrodiil, but I'm glad to be in Cyrodiil. My favorite zone ever.

Another big plus is the quests. Quests are unique, not be damned tedious fetch quests. Granted there are fetch quests, but it's not like ESO consists only of them. They are few in number which I am happy about!

"Hail mighty traveler! Could you aid me with a task? I require an item only a mighty champion can retrieve! You see...I lost my hat." ..... Player: "You mean that hat, just across the road?" NPC: "Why yes! How mighty you are, you found it already! Now...can you please bring it to me?" Player: But it's right there, not 10 steps from you." NPC: Yes but...you will get 5 gold if you get it. I...I seem to be stuck here..I'm afraid."

Fetch quests...so glad I have seen very few of them. While other games are bombarded with them. My point is, quests in ESO have some story, some meaning. They have a purpose, most of them. They are not meaningless get my banana or get my attire quests. The main quest as well as the story of expansions is also great!

Red_Feather · June 2019

I don't trust my opinion anymore.

Grandma · June 2019

considering how miserable the forums are i was expecting worse results.

BigBragg · June 2019

I don't think it is a game that can be summed up by a pass, fail grading system.

max_only · June 2019

If it was a bad game I wouldn’t care, I wouldn’t post on forums, I’d just uninstall. So many MMOs I’ve played I just gave up on. Allods, Tera, Fallen Earth, Sword2 (spent a lot of money and time on this one, disappointment in the end), etc. it’s a great game and that’s why it’s so frustrating when they muck it up.

ArchMikem · June 2019

Of course its good, its great. The fact the made an mmorpg work on consoles alone is impressive, and i never have a bad time playing it. Frustrating at times yes, but not bad. A game thats kept me playing for almost 4 years cant be bad.

Tandor · June 2019

Wifeaggro13 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Wifeaggro13 wrote: »

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to find out another, if not, many other posts like this exist, but I wanna give it a shot. I was talking with a friend at work last night about the game, and to sum up the conversation, he doesn't think ESO is a good game. I found it preposterous, since his reasoning was "There's no central player store." It reminded me of how people nitpick at the little things that aren't in the game, or should be removed, or at least changed, and then go on to make that the one reason the game is "bad". And although I have no way to stop joke votes, I still ask that you be completely honest. Do you think that ESO is a good, or bad game?

its neither its a exercise in mediocrity , its a game that ticks a lot of boxes but does non of them welll

Care to explain? That's very much a tiny minority view given that even the game's critics think that it does a lot of things extremely well, they just think it does some other things extremely badly. They wouldn't still be here if they thought there was nothing that was done well - so why, out of interest, are you still here if you think the whole thing is mediocre? It's not like there isn't any competition in the market.

i refuse to purchase anything after morrowind . Here , is a list .

1. and this is major no game has left their alternate advancement a flat system tyhat leads to no where. 5 years post launch i would expect the CP system to have evolved and have role and class definition with active abilities unlocked. games with far less of aa budget have been able to expand alternate advancment class and race selections by 3 x the amount ZOS has with a massive budget.

2) . content is essentialy the same since the released wrothgar its copy and paste leveing content with no levels or emegrging game play. matter o fact game play has gone backwards in all area's performance emergence and complexcity.

3). they charge extremely high dollar compared to what other MMO's give for a expansion, im not talking about the quarterly DLC im talking about chapters.

You want a new game every couple of months for nothing. Got it!

Wifeaggro13 · June 2019

Tandor wrote: »

Wifeaggro13 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Wifeaggro13 wrote: »

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to find out another, if not, many other posts like this exist, but I wanna give it a shot. I was talking with a friend at work last night about the game, and to sum up the conversation, he doesn't think ESO is a good game. I found it preposterous, since his reasoning was "There's no central player store." It reminded me of how people nitpick at the little things that aren't in the game, or should be removed, or at least changed, and then go on to make that the one reason the game is "bad". And although I have no way to stop joke votes, I still ask that you be completely honest. Do you think that ESO is a good, or bad game?

its neither its a exercise in mediocrity , its a game that ticks a lot of boxes but does non of them welll

Care to explain? That's very much a tiny minority view given that even the game's critics think that it does a lot of things extremely well, they just think it does some other things extremely badly. They wouldn't still be here if they thought there was nothing that was done well - so why, out of interest, are you still here if you think the whole thing is mediocre? It's not like there isn't any competition in the market.

i refuse to purchase anything after morrowind . Here , is a list .

1. and this is major no game has left their alternate advancement a flat system tyhat leads to no where. 5 years post launch i would expect the CP system to have evolved and have role and class definition with active abilities unlocked. games with far less of aa budget have been able to expand alternate advancment class and race selections by 3 x the amount ZOS has with a massive budget.

2) . content is essentialy the same since the released wrothgar its copy and paste leveing content with no levels or emegrging game play. matter o fact game play has gone backwards in all area's performance emergence and complexcity.

3). they charge extremely high dollar compared to what other MMO's give for a expansion, im not talking about the quarterly DLC im talking about chapters.

You want a new game every couple of months for nothing. Got it!

no i actually want an expansion for 40 dollars not a zone with some BS story and a broken class or half finsihed game systems. Development teams across the board have delivered far more content and emergent systems while maintaining a vertical progression system . with far smaller populations and fewer dollars for development then ZOS has. right now Bethseda/ ZOS are goign the direction of EA. you only need look at FO 76 which is a horrible game , probably the worst rated AAA title to hit the market in 12 years. you can make blanket staments all you want like i want a new game every few months or what ever non sense reply to defend ESO. I dont fault you for having your opinion based on limited experience with the genre . But i gave you the top 3 reasons why i call it mediocre and your trying to gas light the statement. So look here is a list of features from an Expac from a game released in 2004 that was released in 2008 . Look at the features list and please realise the that each on of the 4 zones were the size or bigger of a chapter for the same price. each zone had 2x the quests while maintaing a new race, factions , tomes and vertical progression. ZOS is making huge profits and investing very little back into the game.
http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Rise_of_Kunark

Bouldercleave · June 2019

Great game although I'm becoming more and more concerned as to the direction that we are headed.

I'm not one to rant and rave about every little thing, but there will be a point in the current direction that I will semi-quietly stop subscribing, donate all my gold and stuff, and simply walk away.

Crown Store Skyshards in my opinion is "strike one" for ZoS

Dwindling performance and increasing bugs is "Strike two"

Let's see what they throw across home plate next.

Palidon · June 2019

If you play in PvP and you voted good then whatever. PvP is a total game performance and bug ridden mess. Since Eleswyr I see from the forums some of the PvP problems folks have been experiencing for years are now filtering into PvE as well. Trust me it will just get worse. You might of voted Good now but in a year from now like to see what you vote then.

The PvP rewards for the worthy are a joke and the same ones over and over again. I still play this game but at least I am no longer wasting my money on it.

The saving grace for ZOS right now is there is really nothing out there much better. But eventually their will be and then I think it will be the end of ESO.

You know what is really sad? The big selling point for this game at it's beginning was PvP. Now PvP is no longer ZOS' concern as they have turned a blind eye to all the PvP complaints and problems.

Mitrenga · June 2019

It is a very good game when ZoS lets us play.

siddique · June 2019

It's literally the only game I play.

warabi · June 2019

ESO is a great game and that's why I get frustrated a lot. If I didn't like the game in the first place I wouldn't care about how it could be made better. I'm sure a lot of other people feel the same way and that's why you see a lot of vitriol on the forums.

That being said I don't sub anymore nor do I play ESO very often these days, but I still get on occasionally and quest.

Wifeaggro13 · June 2019

Palidon wrote: »

If you play in PvP and you voted good then whatever. PvP is a total game performance and bug ridden mess. Since Eleswyr I see from the forums some of the PvP problems folks have been experiencing for years are now filtering into PvE as well. Trust me it will just get worse. You might of voted Good now but in a year from now like to see what you vote then.

The PvP rewards for the worthy are a joke and the same ones over and over again. I still play this game but at least I am no longer wasting my money on it.

The saving grace for ZOS right now is there is really nothing out there much better. But eventually their will be and then I think it will be the end of ESO.

You know what is really sad? The big selling point for this game at it's beginning was PvP. Now PvP is no longer ZOS' concern as they have turned a blind eye to all the PvP complaints and problems.

the PVP community is a hardcore community like the end game raider/ trial PVE player. that community does not spend money hand over fist for ken and barbie outfits, nor do they pour cash into gambling. that community demands a little more for their dollar corporation go for low hanging fruit. and unfortunately PVP is up on top

jircris11 · June 2019

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to find out another, if not, many other posts like this exist, but I wanna give it a shot. I was talking with a friend at work last night about the game, and to sum up the conversation, he doesn't think ESO is a good game. I found it preposterous, since his reasoning was "There's no central player store." It reminded me of how people nitpick at the little things that aren't in the game, or should be removed, or at least changed, and then go on to make that the one reason the game is "bad". And although I have no way to stop joke votes, I still ask that you be completely honest. Do you think that ESO is a good, or bad game?

Compared to a lot if mmo trash out there it's a good game. I love the lore and exploration.

phaneub17_ESO · June 2019

It's my casual game, I don't take it seriously. I play it when there are content droughts in my other game. When WoW 8.2 comes out, I'll be gone again until that stops being fun then I'm back here.