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Current burstiest magicka ability/class?

  • Lord-Otto
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Someone is still salty about sorcs in here... x'D

    Leo, you gotta differentiate more. There's a big difference between PvP, PvE, abilities and class.
    For players, magsorc is indeed overall the burstiest. Class was designed for it.
    The single burstiest ability is the nightblade's Spectral Bow, however. For ultimates, Meteor has the biggest single-hit damage, but Soul Assault has higher burst dps over those four seconds.
    For mobs I would say nightblades' Sap Essence is the burstiest move.
    Mag sorc being burstiest mag class is common knowledge not about being salty it’s about answering truthfully to this post question.

    Biased answer. Magsorc has NOT the burstiest ability. It has NOT the burstiest mob cleaner. You ignored two thirds of the question just to put magsorc in a specific light. That's why I concluded the responders have a grudge. And you feeling talked to and defending yourself further proves this. Your subconscious is telling.
    Edited by Lord-Otto on June 13, 2019 8:40PM
  • Neoauspex
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    Magsorc
  • EtTuBrutus
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    Mag sorcs only bursty bc of the worst designed pvp move in the game.. mages wrath.
  • bardx86
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Mag sorcs only bursty bc of the worst designed pvp move in the game.. mages wrath.

    If you mean worst designed as in it broken and never lands on anything then you are right. the skill sucks now.
  • Insco851
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Someone is still salty about sorcs in here... x'D

    Leo, you gotta differentiate more. There's a big difference between PvP, PvE, abilities and class.
    For players, magsorc is indeed overall the burstiest. Class was designed for it.
    The single burstiest ability is the nightblade's Spectral Bow, however. For ultimates, Meteor has the biggest single-hit damage, but Soul Assault has higher burst dps over those four seconds.
    For mobs I would say nightblades' Sap Essence is the burstiest move.
    Mag sorc being burstiest mag class is common knowledge not about being salty it’s about answering truthfully to this post question.

    Biased answer. Magsorc has NOT the burstiest ability. It has NOT the burstiest mob cleaner. You ignored two thirds of the question just to put magsorc in a specific light. That's why I concluded the responders have a grudge. And you feeling talked to and defending yourself further proves this. Your subconscious is telling.

    He asks burstiest (ew) ability/class
    As the title says I'm kinda curious to hear what people regard as the single burstiest ability/class currently out there for Magicka. Not talking combos here though, only passive buffs taken into accounts, what ability just -melts- a mob/players HP? I'm veering towards Soul Assault with the Necro DoT passive?


    Maybe he wasn’t really meaning for that considering “not talking combos” - but that opened the door to the magsorc reply.

    Burstiest class- magsorc
    Burstiest ability - Bow proc
  • EtTuBrutus
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    bardx86 wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Mag sorcs only bursty bc of the worst designed pvp move in the game.. mages wrath.

    If you mean worst designed as in it broken and never lands on anything then you are right. the skill sucks now.

    As in, has no place in a competitive pvp environment.
  • evoniee
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    magsorc
    crystal frag
  • Vietfox
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    In case it wasn't clear enough: Magsorc
  • Deathlord92
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Someone is still salty about sorcs in here... x'D

    Leo, you gotta differentiate more. There's a big difference between PvP, PvE, abilities and class.
    For players, magsorc is indeed overall the burstiest. Class was designed for it.
    The single burstiest ability is the nightblade's Spectral Bow, however. For ultimates, Meteor has the biggest single-hit damage, but Soul Assault has higher burst dps over those four seconds.
    For mobs I would say nightblades' Sap Essence is the burstiest move.
    Mag sorc being burstiest mag class is common knowledge not about being salty it’s about answering truthfully to this post question.

    Biased answer. Magsorc has NOT the burstiest ability. It has NOT the burstiest mob cleaner. You ignored two thirds of the question just to put magsorc in a specific light. That's why I concluded the responders have a grudge. And you feeling talked to and defending yourself further proves this. Your subconscious is telling.
    He was asking for burstiest class that is mag sorc. Burstiest ability the nightblade bow proc. I wasn’t putting mag sorc in any light I was telling him the truth. There isn’t a class in the game that my stamblade or magblade can’t handle I got no reason to be salty lol.
  • Deathlord92
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Someone is still salty about sorcs in here... x'D

    Leo, you gotta differentiate more. There's a big difference between PvP, PvE, abilities and class.
    For players, magsorc is indeed overall the burstiest. Class was designed for it.
    The single burstiest ability is the nightblade's Spectral Bow, however. For ultimates, Meteor has the biggest single-hit damage, but Soul Assault has higher burst dps over those four seconds.
    For mobs I would say nightblades' Sap Essence is the burstiest move.
    Mag sorc being burstiest mag class is common knowledge not about being salty it’s about answering truthfully to this post question.

    Biased answer. Magsorc has NOT the burstiest ability. It has NOT the burstiest mob cleaner. You ignored two thirds of the question just to put magsorc in a specific light. That's why I concluded the responders have a grudge. And you feeling talked to and defending yourself further proves this. Your subconscious is telling.
    Though mag sorc crystal frag comes second to bow proc.
  • Insco851
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Someone is still salty about sorcs in here... x'D

    Leo, you gotta differentiate more. There's a big difference between PvP, PvE, abilities and class.
    For players, magsorc is indeed overall the burstiest. Class was designed for it.
    The single burstiest ability is the nightblade's Spectral Bow, however. For ultimates, Meteor has the biggest single-hit damage, but Soul Assault has higher burst dps over those four seconds.
    For mobs I would say nightblades' Sap Essence is the burstiest move.
    Mag sorc being burstiest mag class is common knowledge not about being salty it’s about answering truthfully to this post question.

    Biased answer. Magsorc has NOT the burstiest ability. It has NOT the burstiest mob cleaner. You ignored two thirds of the question just to put magsorc in a specific light. That's why I concluded the responders have a grudge. And you feeling talked to and defending yourself further proves this. Your subconscious is telling.
    Though mag sorc crystal frag comes second to bow proc.

    This might be Molten whip rn tho.

    Curse>frag still a better combo tho than anything DK has.
  • J41K
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    magsorc by farrr
  • Sanguinor2
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    Insco851 wrote: »

    This might be Molten whip rn tho.

    Curse>frag still a better combo tho than anything DK has.

    Frags and Whip hit around the same when both got same offensive stats, iirc frags hit a Tiny bit harder but not too sure on that one.
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  • Olupajmibanan
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    Class: Magsorc.

    Ability: Frozen Colossus. Under right circumstances of course :smiley:
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on June 14, 2019 1:10PM
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    As the title says I'm kinda curious to hear what people regard as the single burstiest ability/class currently out there for Magicka. Not talking combos here though, only passive buffs taken into accounts, what ability just -melts- a mob/players HP? I'm veering towards Soul Assault with the Necro DoT passive?

    Magwarden will have better tooltip on soul assault then necro. Magden have 6 % magic dmg passive , minor berserk and 3% more dmg for each animal companion ability slotted where You always slot atleast 2 (deep fissure and bird of prey). That is atleast 20% more dmg on soul assault. Also I think magnecro could still reach bigger burst with collosus ulti then with soul assault thanks to major vulnerability that ulti applies.

    why not have both? :P

    Because You cannot use both at the same time.

    you can in a zerg :tongue:
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  • Juhasow
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    As the title says I'm kinda curious to hear what people regard as the single burstiest ability/class currently out there for Magicka. Not talking combos here though, only passive buffs taken into accounts, what ability just -melts- a mob/players HP? I'm veering towards Soul Assault with the Necro DoT passive?

    Magwarden will have better tooltip on soul assault then necro. Magden have 6 % magic dmg passive , minor berserk and 3% more dmg for each animal companion ability slotted where You always slot atleast 2 (deep fissure and bird of prey). That is atleast 20% more dmg on soul assault. Also I think magnecro could still reach bigger burst with collosus ulti then with soul assault thanks to major vulnerability that ulti applies.

    why not have both? :P

    Because You cannot use both at the same time.

    you can in a zerg :tongue:

    Which have nothing to do with the topic of the discussion.
  • kypranb14_ESO
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    In a Single Target setting, probably Onslaught.

    In a multi-target setting, Necro-Colossus. However, if you take away Major Vulnerability from this, or add it to the target for testing purposes, I believe DK's Leap would outperform it.
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Someone is still salty about sorcs in here... x'D

    Leo, you gotta differentiate more. There's a big difference between PvP, PvE, abilities and class.
    For players, magsorc is indeed overall the burstiest. Class was designed for it.
    The single burstiest ability is the nightblade's Spectral Bow, however. For ultimates, Meteor has the biggest single-hit damage, but Soul Assault has higher burst dps over those four seconds.
    For mobs I would say nightblades' Sap Essence is the burstiest move.
    Mag sorc being burstiest mag class is common knowledge not about being salty it’s about answering truthfully to this post question.

    Biased answer. Magsorc has NOT the burstiest ability. It has NOT the burstiest mob cleaner. You ignored two thirds of the question just to put magsorc in a specific light. That's why I concluded the responders have a grudge. And you feeling talked to and defending yourself further proves this. Your subconscious is telling.

    He asks burstiest (ew) ability/class
    As the title says I'm kinda curious to hear what people regard as the single burstiest ability/class currently out there for Magicka. Not talking combos here though, only passive buffs taken into accounts, what ability just -melts- a mob/players HP? I'm veering towards Soul Assault with the Necro DoT passive?


    Maybe he wasn’t really meaning for that considering “not talking combos” - but that opened the door to the magsorc reply.

    Burstiest class- magsorc
    Burstiest ability - Bow proc

    You gave two answers, the right ones actually. That's a bit better than just one word. You actually looked into the question and didn't answer with an agenda. That is acceotable and good. And not what I criticized.
    Sidenote, you also ignored the mob question.
  • katorga
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    Stam Warden and MagSorc - stack the most damage to occur in a single GCD

    Best ability: NB Bow proc or 2H Onslaught Ultimate
  • D0PAMINE
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    Yeah Magsorc is shining right now.
  • Anti_Virus
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    Who are all these Mag Sorcs who actually land Frags? Who exactly are you fighting? Are they distracted by someone else while you shoot them in the back from 28 meters away?

    Curse is free damage.
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  • LordTareq
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    The best burst ability in the game is imho Haunting Curse, and not crystal blast/bow proc/molten whip. Curse hits for about 6k on a well build Magsorc in no-CP. It can crit for around 9k damage. It does this twice. So you have a single skill that does between 12k and 18k damage. It also cannot be dodged and application of the curse itself cannot be blocked. And since it's delayed, it is also layered on top of what ever else you fire at your target.
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    LordTareq wrote: »
    The best burst ability in the game is imho Haunting Curse, and not crystal blast/bow proc/molten whip. Curse hits for about 6k on a well build Magsorc in no-CP. It can crit for around 9k damage. It does this twice. So you have a single skill that does between 12k and 18k damage. It also cannot be dodged and application of the curse itself cannot be blocked. And since it's delayed, it is also layered on top of what ever else you fire at your target.

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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    As the title says I'm kinda curious to hear what people regard as the single burstiest ability/class currently out there for Magicka. Not talking combos here though, only passive buffs taken into accounts, what ability just -melts- a mob/players HP? I'm veering towards Soul Assault with the Necro DoT passive?

    Magwarden will have better tooltip on soul assault then necro. Magden have 6 % magic dmg passive , minor berserk and 3% more dmg for each animal companion ability slotted where You always slot atleast 2 (deep fissure and bird of prey). That is atleast 20% more dmg on soul assault. Also I think magnecro could still reach bigger burst with collosus ulti then with soul assault thanks to major vulnerability that ulti applies.

    why not have both? :P

    Because You cannot use both at the same time.

    you can in a zerg :tongue:

    Which have nothing to do with the topic of the discussion.

    jokes can be used anywhere my friend.
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  • Lokey0024
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    Stamdk, obviously. In medium. Dual wielding with a bow BB.


    Or Magsorc with 50k resource

  • Emma_Overload
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Who are all these Mag Sorcs who actually land Frags? Who exactly are you fighting? Are they distracted by someone else while you shoot them in the back from 28 meters away?

    Curse is free damage.

    Really? Because on my build Curse costs about 2300 magicka. I feel swindled!

    Seriously, what makes Curse any more "free" than Sub Assault or Power of the Light or even Blastbones? There are tons of delayed damage abilities available to classes other than Sorcs.
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  • ll_Rev
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Who are all these Mag Sorcs who actually land Frags? Who exactly are you fighting? Are they distracted by someone else while you shoot them in the back from 28 meters away?

    Curse is free damage.

    Really? Because on my build Curse costs about 2300 magicka. I feel swindled!

    Seriously, what makes Curse any more "free" than Sub Assault or Power of the Light or even Blastbones? There are tons of delayed damage abilities available to classes other than Sorcs.
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Who are all these Mag Sorcs who actually land Frags? Who exactly are you fighting? Are they distracted by someone else while you shoot them in the back from 28 meters away?

    Curse is free damage.

    Really? Because on my build Curse costs about 2300 magicka. I feel swindled!

    Seriously, what makes Curse any more "free" than Sub Assault or Power of the Light or even Blastbones? There are tons of delayed damage abilities available to classes other than Sorcs.

    All of those are dodgeable except power of the light which you have to build up with damage for it to do decent damage.
  • Illuvatarr
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    If timed right, probably magplar/magblade/magdk...mag sorc is more consistent high burst however.
  • Seraphayel
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Who are all these Mag Sorcs who actually land Frags? Who exactly are you fighting? Are they distracted by someone else while you shoot them in the back from 28 meters away?

    Curse is free damage.

    Really? Because on my build Curse costs about 2300 magicka. I feel swindled!

    Seriously, what makes Curse any more "free" than Sub Assault or Power of the Light or even Blastbones? There are tons of delayed damage abilities available to classes other than Sorcs.

    Comparing Blast Bones to Curse just for the lulz? I mean honestly. What a comparison.
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  • Anyron
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    Everyone is salty about msorc because msorc is only playable magicka class

    Everything else is just stamina
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