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Did I miss something or...

coop500
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Is cloak useless suddenly? Like, as soon as the animation is finished playing the effect ends, like WTF?
Hoping for more playable races
  • redspecter23
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    For low level characters without the passive, you will have 1 second of cloak. There is a passive that will increase the duration now, but for lowbies, you're out of luck.
  • coop500
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    For low level characters without the passive, you will have 1 second of cloak. There is a passive that will increase the duration now, but for lowbies, you're out of luck.

    The skill is rank IV for this char though?
    Hoping for more playable races
  • Dojohoda
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    It lasts one second if you have not invested points into the Dark Veil passive
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  • coop500
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    Dojohoda wrote: »
    It lasts one second if you have not invested points into the Dark Veil passive

    Ohh you mean the passive at the bottom of the skilltree? Dumb crap...
    How do they justify such a class identifying skill being USELESS unless you're fully decked out?
    Hoping for more playable races
  • Dojohoda
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    At (Shadow skill line) level 39 and 50, you can put points in the passive. Up until then, it's one second.

    Edited by Dojohoda on June 11, 2019 12:53AM
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  • DisgracefulMind
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    coop500 wrote: »
    Dojohoda wrote: »
    It lasts one second if you have not invested points into the Dark Veil passive

    Ohh you mean the passive at the bottom of the skilltree? Dumb crap...
    How do they justify such a class identifying skill being USELESS unless you're fully decked out?

    Because skills hit their full power when you're fully leveled??????
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  • Dojohoda
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    coop500 wrote: »
    Dojohoda wrote: »
    It lasts one second if you have not invested points into the Dark Veil passive

    Ohh you mean the passive at the bottom of the skilltree? Dumb crap...
    How do they justify such a class identifying skill being USELESS unless you're fully decked out?

    Yes, survival/damage tools as a stealthy blade now seems out of sync for lowbies. I have switched to the healing morph on my -39 lowbie blades.
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  • coop500
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    coop500 wrote: »
    Dojohoda wrote: »
    It lasts one second if you have not invested points into the Dark Veil passive

    Ohh you mean the passive at the bottom of the skilltree? Dumb crap...
    How do they justify such a class identifying skill being USELESS unless you're fully decked out?

    Because skills hit their full power when you're fully leveled??????

    But it's not about skill rank, it's about a passive, which is about making them stronger, not just making them usable. It's literally useless to have a 1 second ability like this.
    Hoping for more playable races
  • coop500
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    And before somebody gets any smart ideas, I play ALL classes and only now noticed because I don't play my NBs all too often. Of all the class skills, this is the only skill that requires a late game passive just to be useable.
    Hoping for more playable races
  • Jayman1000
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    coop500 wrote: »
    Dojohoda wrote: »
    It lasts one second if you have not invested points into the Dark Veil passive

    Ohh you mean the passive at the bottom of the skilltree? Dumb crap...
    How do they justify such a class identifying skill being USELESS unless you're fully decked out?

    Because skills hit their full power when you're fully leveled??????

    The OP has a point though, it's pretty useless until it's completely maxed out. Normally skills are at least useful as you level it... and they should be, so I would say something is out of whack here.

    Edited by Jayman1000 on June 11, 2019 12:13AM
  • twev
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    coop500 wrote: »
    Dojohoda wrote: »
    It lasts one second if you have not invested points into the Dark Veil passive

    Ohh you mean the passive at the bottom of the skilltree? Dumb crap...
    How do they justify such a class identifying skill being USELESS unless you're fully decked out?

    It's justified because it makes you go get more skyshards to replace the ones you spent developing the passive?

    Part of the game mechanic is keeping you spending accumulated resources so you have to keep adventuring to earn more.
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  • Sylvermynx
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    Boy @coop500 - hope your NB isn't also Bosmer....
  • TequilaFire
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    Imagine if sorc shields worked for 1 second till fully leveled. o:)
  • coop500
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    Nah my NBs are either argonian or khajiit, I don't really care about racial passives, I just think a skill being totally useless until you get a certain passive is dumb as hell.
    Hoping for more playable races
  • coop500
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    Jayman1000 wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    Dojohoda wrote: »
    It lasts one second if you have not invested points into the Dark Veil passive

    Ohh you mean the passive at the bottom of the skilltree? Dumb crap...
    How do they justify such a class identifying skill being USELESS unless you're fully decked out?

    Because skills hit their full power when you're fully leveled??????

    The OP has a point though, it's pretty useless until it's completely maxed out. Normally skills are at least useful as you level it... and they should be, so I would say something is out of whack here.

    Exactly, they are at least of SOME use, they may not be great but they are at least useful, but cloak is totally useless unless you just mash the button like crazy, drain your magicka like a rock and still not get to where you're heading.
    Hoping for more playable races
  • Red_Feather
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    I don't know what the point of it is. 1 second. Why not just make it a draining magicka skill that you can toggle.
  • max_only
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    Imagine if sorc shields worked for 1 second till fully leveled. o:)

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  • Kel
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    coop500 wrote: »
    And before somebody gets any smart ideas, I play ALL classes and only now noticed because I don't play my NBs all too often. Of all the class skills, this is the only skill that requires a late game passive just to be useable.

    Isn't it a sad state of affairs when just playing a class in the game has to come with a caveat like this?

    Play what you enjoy, and let them be salty! Don't apologize for playing something provided by the game itself..

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  • ExistingRug61
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    The effect of the dark veil passive on shadow cloak/disguise does seem a bit out of wack. Normally passives boost skills or the class overall by a small amount, but this is case it is a tripling of duration for the skill.

    So it effectively makes shadow cloak/disguise useless for new characters until they are fully levelled, potentially leading to bad experiences for new players (or experienced players that like to slowly level while questing or pvping in Mulaamnir) who want to play stealthy.
  • Androconium
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    coop500 wrote: »
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    How do they justify such a class identifying skill being USELESS unless you're fully decked out?

    Nerfing requires no justification to players.

  • Uryel
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    coop500 wrote: »
    Dojohoda wrote: »
    It lasts one second if you have not invested points into the Dark Veil passive

    Ohh you mean the passive at the bottom of the skilltree? Dumb crap...
    How do they justify such a class identifying skill being USELESS unless you're fully decked out?

    Because they hate Nightblades. The current lead of the combat team is the former PvP team, and I dare say he's playing favourite.

    Cloaking ? Forget about that. Assassination ? Your top skill in that line is now a tanking skill. Enjoy.

    Best way to make sure no one will play the class in PvP and makes it easier for those sore losers is twofold :

    - Nerf it to high heavens so long time players will play something else
    - Make playing a new one as funless as possible to make sure new players won't bother leveling one.
    Edited by Uryel on June 11, 2019 8:45AM
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