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Let's talk about capes

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Tasear
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If we can have dragons... You think there's a new chance at capes?
  • Kawall
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    Capes are inconvenient, and i don't see where they would fit in.
  • Tryxus
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    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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  • Katahdin
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    Let's not
    They have been talked and talked and talked about enough
    Beta tester November 2013
  • max_only
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    Half cloaks that don’t go all the way down and can be added/animated as part of a chest piece would be nice. Not too much longer than light Yokudan shoulders and only in the back.

    I would pay 0 crowns for it but definitely collect it in game just like the Yokudan motif.

    Copy pasted from the other cloak thread on page one.
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  • idk
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    max_only wrote: »
    Half cloaks that don’t go all the way down and can be added/animated as part of a chest piece would be nice..

    Even this would seem to require some major work. We do not have cloth physics which is why the only cape in the game is stapled to our buts and does not move.

    To add cloth physics would require major rework of the game that Zos seems set on not doing and the player base spoke loudly when it expressed it was upset that the cape with the Breton hero costume was stiff.
  • El_Borracho
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    Honey, fetch my mount, they're talking about capes in ESO again!

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    Edited by El_Borracho on June 7, 2019 10:24PM
  • max_only
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    idk wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    Half cloaks that don’t go all the way down and can be added/animated as part of a chest piece would be nice..

    Even this would seem to require some major work. We do not have cloth physics which is why the only cape in the game is stapled to our buts and does not move.

    To add cloth physics would require major rework of the game that Zos seems set on not doing and the player base spoke loudly when it expressed it was upset that the cape with the Breton hero costume was stiff.

    It’s not based on cloth physics, it’s based on animation. If you use that extra bone in the back of the model that allows for the different pieces of the Treasure Hunter costume to move separately then you just have to animate the behave to work like ponytails. They don’t fly off the head, but they sway a little when you move and jump.

    Yokudan-Light-Shoulders-back.png
    Not very much longer than this.
    Edited by max_only on June 7, 2019 10:31PM
    #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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    || CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
    ""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom
  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    You've been here long enough to know this isn't a thing. Why would you post this?
  • zvavi
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    This was a more positive thread than the real one, responses got me laughing :D
  • Tasear
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    stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »
    You've been here long enough to know this isn't a thing. Why would you post this?

    Dreams....
  • Sylvermynx
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    Nope. They always clip, and they never move right. No interest. However, if they add them, those who like them can have them, and I'll just ignore them as I always do.
  • Chrysa1is
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    the only place i can see capes is if they are an alternative option for necklaces so you can get capes in sets too. Issue is clipping and the engine couldnt handle the cloth physics of everyones capes. theyd have to include other cloth physics too
  • BigBragg
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    Sure why not, just after they implement the new engine.
    Cadwell, I seem to have run out of forks to give.
  • max_only
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    max_only wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    Half cloaks that don’t go all the way down and can be added/animated as part of a chest piece would be nice..

    Even this would seem to require some major work. We do not have cloth physics which is why the only cape in the game is stapled to our buts and does not move.

    To add cloth physics would require major rework of the game that Zos seems set on not doing and the player base spoke loudly when it expressed it was upset that the cape with the Breton hero costume was stiff.

    It’s not based on cloth physics, it’s based on animation. If you use that extra bone in the back of the model that allows for the different pieces of the Treasure Hunter costume to move separately then you just have to animate the behave to work like ponytails. They don’t fly off the head, but they sway a little when you move and jump.

    Yokudan-Light-Shoulders-back.png
    Not very much longer than this.

    Think of the Prophet’s shoulders, a style page like that. Just to the upper back. The front has barely anything, a little overlap and a string enclosure. If it wasn’t for the ratty texture it would be 9/10 the way there to what I’m talking about.
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  • twev
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    Tasear wrote: »
    If we can have dragons... You think there's a new chance at capes?

    There's no physical wind in the game to animate them properly, so they'd just always look stupid.

    Your hair doesn't even animate in the wind or running, while riding a mount worth snot.
    Edited by twev on June 8, 2019 12:45AM
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  • SteveCampsOut
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  • Taunky
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    Let's not.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Really people. It's just another layer of stuff that won't look or move right ever with this engine. *sigh*
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    twev wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    If we can have dragons... You think there's a new chance at capes?

    There's no physical wind in the game to animate them properly, so they'd just always look stupid.

    Your hair doesn't even animate in the wind or running, while riding a mount worth snot.

    It does animate, manually, by being a part of the run cycle animation. What you mean is there isn’t a physics engine that decides on it’s own how to manipulate the “cloth” based on variables and user input, like Darth Vader’s cloak in that super funny video.


    https://youtu.be/FFmXYpsjapA
    This isn’t the video I was thinking about, but you can clearly see it is a reaction, a calculation based on input. An animation like I’m talking about is the thing that causes your staff and shield to bounce on your back. That’s apart of the run/walk/jump animation loop. Khajiit and Argonian tails aren’t physics, they’re manually animated.
    Edited by max_only on June 8, 2019 1:29AM
    #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
    #OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
    || CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
    ""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom
  • CaffeinatedMayhem
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    If ZOS could keep shield from clipping into my head, or posed arms from clipping into shield/weapons we could talk.
    Since that hasn't happened in 5 years...

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    Ah but we deal with that now don’t we? By finding the styles that clip the least. ;)
    #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
    #OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
    || CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
    ""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom
  • Banana
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    Servers and lag first
  • jainiadral
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    How about these?
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  • JumpmanLane
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    I want a cape!
  • Tasear
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    twev wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    If we can have dragons... You think there's a new chance at capes?

    There's no physical wind in the game to animate them properly, so they'd just always look stupid.

    Your hair doesn't even animate in the wind or running, while riding a mount worth snot.

    Cape emotes problem solved
  • Carl-lan
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    If the engine could support the dynamics of a cape then I’d love to have more robe like attire that reacts to physics. But if the engine can’t handle it, which I believe it cannot, they’ll just look terrible and there’s no reason to have them.
    Edited by Carl-lan on June 8, 2019 5:05AM
  • Jamdarius
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    Tasear wrote: »
    If we can have dragons... You think there's a new chance at capes?

    I would rather see them fixing levitating shoulders on female characters ;)
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    Jamdarius wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    If we can have dragons... You think there's a new chance at capes?

    I would rather see them fixing levitating shoulders on female characters ;)

    And hip pads
  • MajBludd
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    No capes. They, zos, said no a while back.
  • JKorr
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    Tasear wrote: »
    stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »
    You've been here long enough to know this isn't a thing. Why would you post this?

    Dreams....

    Nightmares.

    clipping on everything, moreso for characters using shields, staves, two handers....locking out some armor styles cause wings don't work with capes/cloaks, anyone using bows......
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