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To people who think Faction Lock is a good idea

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Here is a screenshot I took prime time playing Saturday night. Speaks for itself.

PvP servers are now half full. Before faction lock I would have to queue 30 minutes+ to play on the old Vivec CP server on a Saturday night and have lost the fun playing on a full server.

Zos is turning players away from the game

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Faction lock is a big fail @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Edited by rumple9 on June 2, 2019 2:58AM
  • FearlessOne_2014
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    Inconclusive evidence at the least.

    Many of us including myself are doing the Chapter and leveling multiple Necromancers. So yeah....... Just saying.


    Faction Locks are good btw!


    You don't like? Then go join the Unlocked campaign. You guys have a choice. Why are you guys trying to take away the choice from everyone else.

    For players like me. It's either Faction Locked campaigns or no Cyrodiil. Again just my two cents.
  • Ankaridan
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    Inconclusive evidence at the least.

    Many of us including myself are doing the Chapter and leveling multiple Necromancers. So yeah....... Just saying.


    Faction Locks are good btw!


    You don't like? Then go join the Unlocked campaign. You guys have a choice. Why are you guys trying to take away the choice from everyone else.

    For players like me. It's either Faction Locked campaigns or no Cyrodiil. Again just my two cents.

    Seconded. New class and new content, and you think that's not going to effect Cyro population?

    Plus, consider the possibility that the player cap / queue system is not a fixed number, but something that fluctuates dynamically, or is even modified occasionally by ZOS. We already know it's been changed in the past. For all we know, it could have changed again.

    Basing your observation on a game function that we have no mechanical details about is pure supposition.
  • BoraxFlux
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    Imperial City got its own campaign as well, hard to tell how many players went there before the lock.
  • Sanctum74
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    I'm on PS4 and we are not pop locked and have not even received the patch yet so faction lock has nothing to do with it.

    Most people aren't playing because the game is broke and they can't use skills, potions, swap bars, or call their mounts. Nice try with the faction lock propaganda though.


  • BigBragg
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    Other possibilities also include, but are not limited to, Imperial City is now counted seperately, or players just tired of the high quality server perforrmance.

    All guesswork and spectulation, but tying something to your agenda doesn't make it true.
  • IronWooshu
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    I'm on PS4 and we are not pop locked and have not even received the patch yet so faction lock has nothing to do with it.

    Most people aren't playing because the game is broke and they can't use skills, potions, swap bars, or call their mounts. Nice try with the faction lock propaganda though.


    Im on PS4 NA and it was full yesterday and today.
  • disintegr8
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    Vivec is 3 bar pop locked every day when I log on, I'll see how it is after the patch (ps4 na).
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    Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
  • Kel
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    IronWooshu wrote: »
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    I'm on PS4 and we are not pop locked and have not even received the patch yet so faction lock has nothing to do with it.

    Most people aren't playing because the game is broke and they can't use skills, potions, swap bars, or call their mounts. Nice try with the faction lock propaganda though.


    Im on PS4 NA and it was full yesterday and today.

    I'm on PS4 NA, and population usually starts getting full around noon-ish and stays locked well into the 2 a.m. 3 a.m. area.
    Every
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    There might be slight drop offs with IC being separated and everyone leveling thier necromancer, but I never worry about PS4 NA being short of players in Vivec. (or whatever ridiculous name its changed to)
    There will be some bitching, for sure. But this will have zero effect on pop.
  • Vietfox
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    Faction lock is good and we don't care about your opinion.
  • BigBragg
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    karekiz wrote: »
    rumple9 wrote: »
    Here is a screenshot I took prime time playing Saturday night. Speaks for itself.

    Conclusion based on Screen Shot:

    PvP sucks and is largely ignored by the community since this is a PvE game.

    You do know that many of the people who develop this game came from Dark Age of Camelot and have always intended for PvP to be endgame content right? Trials weren't added until later in the games life. So much for this being a PvE game...
  • Minno
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    Like I said before, faction lock was to check out how many people play daily and how many are using the weapon. Once they get enough data it's going back to normal.

    Otherwise lots of people went IC and do BGs. Plus the new content is easily a month worth with necro grinding going to take longer.
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  • Nogawd
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    Yet another terrible post trying to spin it in favor of your personal ap farm.

    Find another way and deal with it.
  • IronWooshu
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    Minno wrote: »
    Like I said before, faction lock was to check out how many people play daily and how many are using the weapon. Once they get enough data it's going back to normal.

    Otherwise lots of people went IC and do BGs. Plus the new content is easily a month worth with necro grinding going to take longer.

    Doubt it, very rarely does ZoS revert changes, faction lock was needed, its here to stay.
  • Caligamy_ESO
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    Did you get your shoulder pads big enough?
    love is love
  • brandonv516
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    Did you get your shoulder pads big enough?

    :lol:
  • Moonsorrow
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    The pop amounts you show there have nothing to do with faction locks.

    And yes, still expecting like couple of weeks or so until pop is back to normal.
  • Icy_Waffles
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    Correlation does not prove causation. Fact is a lot of people are playing and leveling Necros or experiencing the new chapter or trial. Faction lock is needed and very good. If you don’t like it you can change campaigns.
  • Coggo
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    A good 1/4 of our PVP guild are off leveling Necromancers so I suspect yoursscreenshot is not representative and that you have jumped to the wrong conclusion op.
  • Gilvoth
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    nothing Fail about it at all.
    myself and many Love the locks and hope it stays.
    the only thing fail is that the moderators allow these campaign lock threads being spammed every single day.
  • ArchMikem
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    Bahlok and Kal don't look skewed at all, I don't see the problem here. The pop bars look as even as they ever were.
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  • david_m_18b16_ESO
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    frostz417 wrote: »
    Faction loyalist are too delusional to see it’s failing miserably and will ultimately lead to the PvP population dropping.

    DAoC is faction lock even for PvE content and still running after almost 20 years.
  • Morgul667
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    Most people love faction lock

    No need to try to force your opinion on us
  • bulbousb16_ESO
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    It's 2 AM on Sunday, and Kaalgrontiid is still pop-locked.
    Lethal zergling
  • killahsin
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    It's 2 AM on Sunday, and Kaalgrontiid is still pop-locked.

    yup.

    The only thing that needs to be resolved is the reward system for the other campaigns so this change feels less like a nerf to the min maxers. The crying in most forms would most likely stop then.

  • Hamish999
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    Inconclusive evidence at the least.

    Many of us including myself are doing the Chapter and leveling multiple Necromancers. So yeah....... Just saying.


    Faction Locks are good btw!


    You don't like? Then go join the Unlocked campaign. You guys have a choice. Why are you guys trying to take away the choice from everyone else.

    For players like me. It's either Faction Locked campaigns or no Cyrodiil. Again just my two cents.

    There is no unlocked nonCP 7 day campaign.
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  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    rumple9 wrote: »
    Here is a screenshot I took prime time playing Saturday night. Speaks for itself.

    PvP servers are now half full. Before faction lock I would have to queue 30 minutes+ to play on the old Vivec CP server on a Saturday night and have lost the fun playing on a full server.

    Zos is turning players away from the game

    mVwJbCZ.png

    Faction lock is a big fail @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    Is June 1st. People are getting out more at weekend nights also. A good benchmark should be not after September.
    Also the faction lock is good for stopping manipulating the AvA mechanics.

    In addition to your simplified argument, those people who want to PVP will PVP with the faction lock On also, and yet still their are 1 player/account.
    Edited by p_tsakirisb16_ESO on June 2, 2019 7:40AM
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    Give it up OP. The sort of person you're arguing with apparently thinks both AD and DC are off playing Elsewyr, but EP isn't, obviously because EP players are from a lower socio-economic standing, and can't afford Elseweyr.

    :D
  • Toanis
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    As long as the avid PVP roleplayers stay in their 30 days campaigns, I'm fine. Let them do their thing, even if I don't think faction locking helps the game in any way. Extend faction locking any further and we have a problem:

    If I can't enter Cyrodiil with the char/class I want to play, I will play elsewhere. If I'm locked to a hopelessly outnumbered faction, only feeding kills to the dominating faction, I will play elsewhere. If I'm in the dominating faction and find no PVP in the PVP zone because the players of the other factions play elsewhere, I will follow them.

    "Elsewhere" may actually be a place far far away from Nirn.
  • ryzen_gamer_gal
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    stop your whining
  • Knightpanther
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    utter crap, most folks atm are dividing their time between new content and pvp.

    faction locks are here to stay, live with it.

    be safe
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