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So incaps new silence perk can be cc broken. Why not just leave it as a stun then?

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I mean honestly if your going to remove the stun and allow the silence to be broken then why even bother it’s essentially the same thing if your stunned you can’t use skills anyways. This would have been more useful against both mag and stam at this point. Personally the incap as it is live is still the most balanced and useful for across the board fights vs any other class. Either you have the stamina to cc break or you don’t. If they are going to make the silence be broken they they should return the major defile. Seeing as whether it’s a stun or a silence if you don’t cc break it accomplishes the same thing.
  • Galarthor
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    B/c stun would also hurt stamina builds and ZOS just loves the stamina builds
  • Shadowasrial
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    Galarthor wrote: »
    B/c stun would also hurt stamina builds and ZOS just loves the stamina builds

    I’m a stamina build and even I would prefer the stun as opposed to the silence
  • Shadowasrial
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    Stun or silence is the same thing when you can cc break the silence. Only difference is that stam classes can choose to just shrug it off for 3 seconds like we do with the negate magic skill
    Edited by Shadowasrial on May 15, 2019 7:40PM
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    Also let’s not forget the huge nerf to the befoul champion tree. That nerf alone would have brought incap down considerably so they should at least leave major defile on incap
  • Xvorg
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    Stun or silence is the same thing when you can cc break the silence. Only difference is that stam classes can choose to just shrug it off for 3 seconds like we do with the negate magic skill

    Not really the same if it only affects one spec while doing nothing to the other.

    The stun is the right choice, I still don't understand why they take it away
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  • Maulkin
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    Stun or silence is the same thing when you can cc break the silence. Only difference is that stam classes can choose to just shrug it off for 3 seconds like we do with the negate magic skill

    There's another difference. Silence works on blocking targets. So if a mag build blocks the new incap, they still have to CC break afterwards. Whereas they didn't before.
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  • VaxtinTheWolf
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    But.. if they hold block, and assuming you have the ability slotted, you could also just use Fear instead.
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  • Ogou
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    Silence also allows you to move while stun doesn't.
  • Finedaible
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    Because if it's not broke, ZoS will 'fix' it.
  • Gilvoth
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    Finedaible wrote: »
    Because if it's not broke, ZoS will 'fix' it.

    this ^
  • Anhedonie
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    Imagine spending 5 weeks of pts to balance 1 spell instead of upcoming new class and then reverting back to how it was before. Sounds like a wasted effort, right? Oh, wait...
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  • Xogath
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    Because people cry about being stunned by a cheap ultimate in melee range when ranged stuns exist that cost zero ultimate and hit like a truck to boot.

    And are also instant/free to cast 33% of the time.

    Imagine that.

    Oh, that and they don't like being bad touched by Stealth players since they can't be bothered to build around countering it.
  • Deep_01
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    Xogath wrote: »
    Because people cry about being stunned by a cheap ultimate in melee range when ranged stuns exist that cost zero ultimate and hit like a truck to boot.

    And are also instant/free to cast 33% of the time.

    Imagine that.

    Oh, that and they don't like being bad touched by Stealth players since they can't be bothered to build around countering it.

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  • Bergzorn
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    Silence on Incap is one of ZOS' decisions that should just be reverted but won't for reasons of some strange developer codex or huge egos or whatever.
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  • Dracane
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    We have tested the Incap Silence last night and it can it not be purged with immovability potions.

    Edited by Dracane on May 20, 2019 8:37AM
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    .

    Edited by Dracane on May 20, 2019 7:26AM
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Idk why they left the silence. I am nb main (played all, stam, mag, hybrid). This is wierd change, and literally no1 (both nb and non-nb mains) wanted it.
    It limits usege of this ulti to a very narrow type of build. Also I am pretty sure that it wont work in PvE on mobs and bosses.
    So it is purely for PvP. It just feels wrong.

    Imho all they should have done to incap (if this single target dodgeable & blockable ulti was OP to begin with) was to replace major defile with minor defile.
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on May 20, 2019 7:39AM
  • Kadoin
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    Xogath wrote: »
    Because people cry about being stunned by a cheap ultimate in melee range when ranged stuns exist that cost zero ultimate and hit like a truck to boot.

    And are also instant/free to cast 33% of the time.

    Imagine that.

    Oh, that and they don't like being bad touched by Stealth players since they can't be bothered to build around countering it.

    Frags got nerfed long time ago...
  • Maulkin
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    Xogath wrote: »
    Because people cry about being stunned by a cheap ultimate in melee range when ranged stuns exist that cost zero ultimate and hit like a truck to boot.

    And are also instant/free to cast 33% of the time.

    Imagine that.

    Imagine not having played the game for a year, not knowing what you're talking about and still thinking you can come up with clever quips on balance.

    Imagine that.

    Edited by Maulkin on May 20, 2019 8:57AM
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  • Nerftheforums
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    Because the combat team (seems?) has half a working brain in all the 3 people working there, so making an amazing ult into an extremely *** one is an amazing idea. It's easy, you just need to understand the monkeys that are throwing the balls of *** at you.
  • Katahdin
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    Xogath wrote: »
    Because people cry about being stunned by a cheap ultimate in melee range when ranged stuns exist that cost zero ultimate and hit like a truck to boot.

    And are also instant/free to cast 33% of the time.

    Imagine that.

    Oh, that and they don't like being bad touched by Stealth players since they can't be bothered to build around countering it.

    Frags got nerfed long time ago...

    Suuuurree it did

    lx0owrnnp68d.jpg

    If thats a nerf, it didn't go far enough
    Edited by Katahdin on May 20, 2019 12:51PM
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  • Maulkin
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Kadoin wrote: »
    Xogath wrote: »
    Because people cry about being stunned by a cheap ultimate in melee range when ranged stuns exist that cost zero ultimate and hit like a truck to boot.

    And are also instant/free to cast 33% of the time.

    Imagine that.

    Oh, that and they don't like being bad touched by Stealth players since they can't be bothered to build around countering it.

    Frags got nerfed long time ago...

    Suuuurree it did

    lx0owrnnp68d.jpg

    If thats a nerf, it didn't go far enough

    Imagine struggling with reading comprehension so much, that you quote a post talking about Crystal Frags and respond with a screenshot of Crystal Blast.

    Imagine that.

    PS. I like this post format, I think I'll keep it.
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  • Katahdin
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    Maulkin wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Kadoin wrote: »
    Xogath wrote: »
    Because people cry about being stunned by a cheap ultimate in melee range when ranged stuns exist that cost zero ultimate and hit like a truck to boot.

    And are also instant/free to cast 33% of the time.

    Imagine that.

    Oh, that and they don't like being bad touched by Stealth players since they can't be bothered to build around countering it.

    Frags got nerfed long time ago...

    Suuuurree it did

    lx0owrnnp68d.jpg

    If thats a nerf, it didn't go far enough

    Imagine struggling with reading comprehension so much, that you quote a post talking about Crystal Frags and respond with a screenshot of Crystal Blast.

    Imagine that.

    PS. I like this post format, I think I'll keep it.

    Crystal blast has always been viewed as the weaker of the two by far. Frags does every bit of that damage and more.

    Yes I have a mag sorc and have done that kind of damage and higher in Cyrodiil
    Edited by Katahdin on May 20, 2019 1:11PM
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  • bardx86
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Maulkin wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Kadoin wrote: »
    Xogath wrote: »
    Because people cry about being stunned by a cheap ultimate in melee range when ranged stuns exist that cost zero ultimate and hit like a truck to boot.

    And are also instant/free to cast 33% of the time.

    Imagine that.

    Oh, that and they don't like being bad touched by Stealth players since they can't be bothered to build around countering it.

    Frags got nerfed long time ago...

    Suuuurree it did

    lx0owrnnp68d.jpg

    If thats a nerf, it didn't go far enough

    Imagine struggling with reading comprehension so much, that you quote a post talking about Crystal Frags and respond with a screenshot of Crystal Blast.

    Imagine that.

    PS. I like this post format, I think I'll keep it.

    Crystal blast has always been viewed as the weaker of the two by far. Frags does every bit of that damage and more.

    Yes I have a mag sorc and have done that kind of damage and higher in Cyrodiil

    If crystal blast hits you that hard you have a problem with your build on top of a L2P issue. Crystal blast shouldn't even hit you.
  • Xvorg
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    Xogath wrote: »
    Because people cry about being stunned by a cheap ultimate in melee range when ranged stuns exist that cost zero ultimate and hit like a truck to boot.

    And are also instant/free to cast 33% of the time.

    Imagine that.

    Oh, that and they don't like being bad touched by Stealth players since they can't be bothered to build around countering it.

    Frags got nerfed long time ago...

    Stupid Nerf
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  • Xvorg
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Kadoin wrote: »
    Xogath wrote: »
    Because people cry about being stunned by a cheap ultimate in melee range when ranged stuns exist that cost zero ultimate and hit like a truck to boot.

    And are also instant/free to cast 33% of the time.

    Imagine that.

    Oh, that and they don't like being bad touched by Stealth players since they can't be bothered to build around countering it.

    Frags got nerfed long time ago...

    Suuuurree it did

    lx0owrnnp68d.jpg

    If thats a nerf, it didn't go far enough

    FRAGS!!!!

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  • Wuuffyy
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    Xvorg wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Kadoin wrote: »
    Xogath wrote: »
    Because people cry about being stunned by a cheap ultimate in melee range when ranged stuns exist that cost zero ultimate and hit like a truck to boot.

    And are also instant/free to cast 33% of the time.

    Imagine that.

    Oh, that and they don't like being bad touched by Stealth players since they can't be bothered to build around countering it.

    Frags got nerfed long time ago...

    Suuuurree it did

    lx0owrnnp68d.jpg

    If thats a nerf, it didn't go far enough

    FRAGS!!!!

    ccjw2ed9p0tu.png

    FRAGS are next! Bye sorcs!
    Edited by Wuuffyy on May 22, 2019 7:39PM
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  • psychotic13
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    Rip eso, players literally have more knowledge on the game than devs.
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