lelink88 wrote: »

They suddenly announced WoW classic beta few day before Elsweyr, then they announce stress test event for a 14 years old game 3 day after Elsweyr release. They send people to talking bad about Elsweyr in other game forums. They try their best to distract social media from ESO. I used to be Blizzard's fan, but now I hate them as a greedy pig try to slow down all game industry

There is no more Blizzard. Activision took over wow. Blizzard may have moved on to bigger things.Blizzard tried too hard to give players pretty much everything they asked for and eventually it broke the game. When things come too easy for players they eventually get bored. Then everyone complained and wanted vanilla wow back, Blizzard said they would not bring vanilla wow back. Now Activision is backpeddling trying to salvage what is left of this once iconic game. I need to give full credit to Blizzard for their past success. They gave me years of great, quality entertainment.

Anyway, wow is buried in my past like a fine treasure forever lost in time but never forgotten. Tes was my first love and now I'm married to eso 😆 Wow is a really good old friend I once knew.

WoW Classic will be an epic disaster when people realize how boring it really was (I know that because I was there and I am not suffering from Memberberry-Overdose). If anything there will be a flood of returning players in a month or so.

I doubt they planned their entire schedule around another MMO's releases.

Blizzard doesn't have to do anything with WoW Classic other than say "WoW Classic" and they'll get all the fans and money they want, nostalgia is a hell of a drug. I highly doubt anything else you suspect is Blizzards doing but more likely just angry gamers being angry gamers.

Asardes wrote: »

ESO 1.5 server coming next?

They would suffer the same issues that WoW Classic will.

Sure everyone wants "some" parts of those days back, but not everything in that version was good. Also where do you go from there, what content will you do when you've beaten all the classic content again etc.

Tasear wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

ESO 1.5 server coming next?

They would suffer the same issues that WoW Classic will.

Sure everyone wants "some" parts of those days back, but not everything in that version was good. Also where do you go from there, what content will you do when you've beaten all the classic content again etc.

Nope eso only has gotten better.

YMMV for each person. I would agree overall the games improved, but there are some areas I think are worse.

lelink88 wrote: »

I used to be Blizzard's fan, but now I hate them as a greedy pig try to slow down all game industry

I use to love Bethesda. Just take out Blizzard and put in Bethesda there. Right now, Blizzard and even EA are above and better than Bethesda now.

People remember good nostalgic Classic Wow because back then it was nothing better, and game was in absolutely greatest shape, without any competition or other choices. People were amazed and addicted to it. With time, our expectationd raised, and soon people will realize that nostalgia isn't much enough to keep them in playing. Wow classic beta will die as soon as it launched. I remember awesome WotLK times, where I couldn't leave the PC for 10 hours straight. What a game it was. Currently, I guess I couldn't be able to reach level 10, because game became outdated and boring. Maybe I am wrong, I would lile to be. We will see.

wishlist14 wrote: »

lelink88 wrote: »

They suddenly announced WoW classic beta few day before Elsweyr, then they announce stress test event for a 14 years old game 3 day after Elsweyr release. They send people to talking bad about Elsweyr in other game forums. They try their best to distract social media from ESO. I used to be Blizzard's fan, but now I hate them as a greedy pig try to slow down all game industry

There is no more Blizzard. Activision took over wow. Blizzard may have moved on to bigger things.Blizzard tried too hard to give players pretty much everything they asked for and eventually it broke the game. When things come too easy for players they eventually get bored. Then everyone complained and wanted vanilla wow back, Blizzard said they would not bring vanilla wow back. Now Activision is backpeddling trying to salvage what is left of this once iconic game. I need to give full credit to Blizzard for their past success. They gave me years of great, quality entertainment.

Anyway, wow is buried in my past like a fine treasure forever lost in time but never forgotten. Tes was my first love and now I'm married to eso 😆 Wow is a really good old friend I once knew.

Actually they know WoW is done and just want to milk it some more.

There hasnt been a Blizzard since Warcraft 3.

getemshauna wrote: »

People remember good nostalgic Classic Wow because back then it was nothing better, and game was in absolutely greatest shape, without any competition or other choices. People were amazed and addicted to it. With time, our expectationd raised, and soon people will realize that nostalgia isn't much enough to keep them in playing. Wow classic beta will die as soon as it launched. I remember awesome WotLK times, where I couldn't leave the PC for 10 hours straight. What a game it was. Currently, I guess I couldn't be able to reach level 10, because game became outdated and boring. Maybe I am wrong, I would lile to be. We will see.

Pretty much, its something akin to last milk as WoW is losing players so fast its hilarious. And Blizzard is aware that WoW is pretty much done.

And i suspect those wearing rose colored glasses will wake up quite soon, but Blizzard will get 15/30$ from them by then.

Uviryth wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

lelink88 wrote: »

I used to be Blizzard's fan, but now I hate them as a greedy pig try to slow down all game industry

I use to love Bethesda. Just take out Blizzard and put in Bethesda there. Right now, Blizzard and even EA are above and better than Bethesda now.

any Game Developer that has dropped its pants to get rearended by a Big Publisher is in the gutter now. The only way to save gaming is to let the Publishers die.
Honestly, with the online-landscape of 2019, who need them anymore. Marketing is done via YoutTube or Steam or Twitter, not with big Ad-Campaigns. And even if you want that, you dont need a Publisher for that, you hire a Marketing-Company for specific products. And for distribution, you hire Steam, or Epic Games, or GoG ...
10- 15 years ago it was a different thing.

It is publishers who actually pay for game development and unless devs manage to find their own financing through tings like kickstarter or some such... ... ...but guess what? Those sources have been tainted too with a lot of people getting nothing for their money or gettign endless "early access" and such while paying for full game.

Why would anyone play WoW Classic?

That game has not aged well, at all.

MikaHR wrote: »

wishlist14 wrote: »

lelink88 wrote: »

They suddenly announced WoW classic beta few day before Elsweyr, then they announce stress test event for a 14 years old game 3 day after Elsweyr release. They send people to talking bad about Elsweyr in other game forums. They try their best to distract social media from ESO. I used to be Blizzard's fan, but now I hate them as a greedy pig try to slow down all game industry

There is no more Blizzard. Activision took over wow. Blizzard may have moved on to bigger things.Blizzard tried too hard to give players pretty much everything they asked for and eventually it broke the game. When things come too easy for players they eventually get bored. Then everyone complained and wanted vanilla wow back, Blizzard said they would not bring vanilla wow back. Now Activision is backpeddling trying to salvage what is left of this once iconic game. I need to give full credit to Blizzard for their past success. They gave me years of great, quality entertainment.

Anyway, wow is buried in my past like a fine treasure forever lost in time but never forgotten. Tes was my first love and now I'm married to eso 😆 Wow is a really good old friend I once knew.

Actually they know WoW is done and just want to milk it some more.

There hasnt been a Blizzard since Warcraft 3.

People are saying that WoW is done for the last 15 years, just like ESO was predicted to be "done" since 2014. And how is offering a different version of the game without an additional purchase or additional sub than what you already have, considered milking?

Uviryth wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

lelink88 wrote: »

I used to be Blizzard's fan, but now I hate them as a greedy pig try to slow down all game industry

I use to love Bethesda. Just take out Blizzard and put in Bethesda there. Right now, Blizzard and even EA are above and better than Bethesda now.

any Game Developer that has dropped its pants to get rearended by a Big Publisher is in the gutter now. The only way to save gaming is to let the Publishers die.
Honestly, with the online-landscape of 2019, who need them anymore. Marketing is done via YoutTube or Steam or Twitter, not with big Ad-Campaigns. And even if you want that, you dont need a Publisher for that, you hire a Marketing-Company for specific products. And for distribution, you hire Steam, or Epic Games, or GoG ...
10- 15 years ago it was a different thing.

Great points there. The reason I believe Bethesda and Blizzard did so great was not relying on advertising or what not, but Word of Mouth. It was actual players that got the word out, not the reviewers. Sadly now, companies like Blizzard/Activision, (or is it Activision/Blizzard?) and Bethesda don't care what their customers think or care. At least with EA we expected that attitude. Not with Bethesda and Blizzard.

Sadly Activision ruined Blizzard and Bethesda Softworks have ruined Bethesda Game Studios. Let's hope that Bethesda Softworks keeps away from Zenimax Online, but we can see that the "evil" is coming in ESO. Let's hope the bosses at Zenimax Online still get to do great stuff that Bethesda Game Studios didn't get to do with Fallout 76.

You would think that the Publishers would learn their lesson. First with Blizzard, "Don't you have phones?". You would think Bethesda saw how upset people were about that. Then we have Battlefield V from EA. You would think Bethesda would learn how people were upset how Battlefield V launched. You would also think Bethesda has learned from the ESO launch. Then we got Fallout 76. You would think EA would be smart enough to delay Anthem after the mess of Fallout 76 and some other pirate game. But NOPE. Companies still have their fingers in their ears going "LA LA LA LA We don't hear you".



As for going back on topic, where are these ESO is bad and WoW is better? I have seen the opposite here.

andreasv wrote: »

MikaHR wrote: »

wishlist14 wrote: »

lelink88 wrote: »

They suddenly announced WoW classic beta few day before Elsweyr, then they announce stress test event for a 14 years old game 3 day after Elsweyr release. They send people to talking bad about Elsweyr in other game forums. They try their best to distract social media from ESO. I used to be Blizzard's fan, but now I hate them as a greedy pig try to slow down all game industry

There is no more Blizzard. Activision took over wow. Blizzard may have moved on to bigger things.Blizzard tried too hard to give players pretty much everything they asked for and eventually it broke the game. When things come too easy for players they eventually get bored. Then everyone complained and wanted vanilla wow back, Blizzard said they would not bring vanilla wow back. Now Activision is backpeddling trying to salvage what is left of this once iconic game. I need to give full credit to Blizzard for their past success. They gave me years of great, quality entertainment.

Anyway, wow is buried in my past like a fine treasure forever lost in time but never forgotten. Tes was my first love and now I'm married to eso 😆 Wow is a really good old friend I once knew.

Actually they know WoW is done and just want to milk it some more.

There hasnt been a Blizzard since Warcraft 3.

People are saying that WoW is done for the last 15 years, just like ESO was predicted to be "done" since 2014. And how is offering a different version of the game without an additional purchase or additional sub than what you already have, considered milking?

Except Blizzard stopped publishing their numbers. Guess why? And WoW is losing players faster than ever, theyve milked it for 15 years and know its EoL. They dont even bother that much any more.

And i dont care about what "people say"...never have, never will.

Nothing is gonna save WoW, no MMO could kill it but you know what killed WoW, Activision/Blizzard did.

BFA is utter trash and literally almost any MMO right now that is relevant like ESO, FF14, GW2 is better, like not even a matter of opinion it's just all of those 3 MMOs are better in content. Before anyone spews Blizzard fanboy BS, lets quickly list everything wrong with current WoW.

• Story Sucks
• Azerite system blows
• Class design is at it's worst
• LOL locking races behind a rep time gate mechanic
• Island EXs are meh at best
• Mythic + is not as good as it was in Legion
• Faction imbalance to the extreme, like Swotr extreme

Like even coming from someone who wants classic so bad, it's little too late. August 27th is too late cause Elsweyr is already out by 3 months and FF14 SB will be out in a little over 3 weeks from now. BFA 8.2 looks dull as 8.0 and it's just not even worth playing WoW anymore till Ion and Lore leave the dev team and Blizzard looks back at what made WoW the MMO to play.

Nothing new, blizzard is known for doing this.