Depend on use, Mournoth keep is larger inside, Sleek Creek is tiny inside, not much larger than the inn rooms.
Exterior Sleek creek is better for me and the location is extremely good being next to Rawl.
Also who design do you like most

Sleek Creek! It makes thieving soooo easy! Especially when farming motifs from NPCs in Morrowind. Pickpocket a motif, port to house, exit, and the outlaw refuge is right there outside! Also easy access to bank, mount training, and wayshrine.

StormChaser3000 wrote: »

Old Mistveil Manor. Best medium house imo. Not too big and not too small. Cozy yard and nice architecture, close to Riften and its shine.
It's more expensive than sleek Creek, but it is worth it.

1kk? No! I can't pay for it!

I buy inexpensive houses with gold. The primary purpose is not "residence". It's convenience. I want a house in every zone so my characters have instant free access, especially during events where the character has never been to that zone.

I do have furniture in all of them and they are quite nice and cozy. But they are still just like a place to stop at on a trip.

I have particular expectations for a house I would buy.

First, I like it to have a good location, preferably in a town, and preferably in a zone appropriate to the character (which is why I prefer cheaper, single character houses... each character should really have his own).

Second, I like it to have a separate room I can use as a bedroom. Domus Phrasticus is very good in this regard, as it has a private living area upstairs, and a more public area downstairs.

Third, I like it to have a balcony, preferably in the real world, so I can watch as people go wandering by on quests or what have you. I bought Grymharth's Woe for this, even though the "balcony" is really little more than a shelf.

Fourth, I like it to have a pleasing view. One of my favourites for this is the Velothi Harbour House in the north of Vvardenfell. However, Old Mistveil Manor is terrible for this, as is the Autumn's Gate house, as they have tall walls that block the entire view. The Cyrodiilic Jungle House gets away with it because there's a kind of trellice you can see through.

Fifth, I like it to have a nice yard if possible, even if it's a back yard, as the Narsis house has.

Sixth, I like it to have a nice porch, preferably in the real world, that the character can sit on.

Finally, I like a house to have levels. The Gardiner House in Wayrest is nice in this way, as it has both upstairs and basement. Unfortunately, it lacks a lot of other elements.


You will have your own list of things you would like in a house. I suggest ranking them, and then choosing a house that has more of the more important things.

For me, I ended up buying Grymharth's Woe. There are others I might have considered (such as the Domus Phrasticus, if it was in a better location).

Apartment in Sentinel’s bar and Snugpod. Wayshrine, crafting, banker, stealing, and with Snugpod you get Undaunted enclave right there. If it wasn’t so ugly it would be a must have. And yes, I am the same Bosmer obsessed max_only saying Snugpod is ugly. Not as ugly as the Argonian “mud” houses but still.

I like the Sleek Creek house.. I have every intention of buying it.. just be a little bit, bought another house and have to build the funds back up!

Personally, I plan on doing an outdoor kitchen.. this would keep the inside of the house from getting hot..and as it's a semi-arid place, I would think the summers are extremely hot ( or so I imagine anyway).

SilverIce58 wrote: »

The only thing wrong with Mournoth Keep is that it can get very, very, very dark inside. I used like a quarter of the slots just for lighting. Very large inside tho, and spacious outside.

Try using some of the "lighted" or "glowy" plants. Some of the corals that glow.. and I think I remember seeing a few other things that give off a bit of light, but aren't "lights". Really if you can put 'light' in a corner.. say the glowy blue mushrooms, they don't have to be bright, just make that corner not dark. I don't know if I am explaining that well.

Here are some plants and some other things that "glow"

Mournoth Keep is the best house. It has a nice courtyard and the home itself is a great size for the 400 item slots. You can make it look lived in with that amount of slots both inside and out. The wayshrine outside is super convenient also!

Between Mournoth and Sleek Creek, Sleek Creek for sure. The traders, outlaws refuge, writ hub and amenities there win by miles. Though if you already have a main city home and location isn't important, Mournoth may be better if you're planning on furnishing since it's quite a bit larger (though it has no water, and is quite dark inside).

Since you don't want to spend money on a large home, the best small homes are Snugpod (best location but no garden); Black Vine Villa (2nd best location with a garden); as well as Twin Arches and Autumn's Gate (worse locations but good value).

Amongst the medium homes, Sleek Creek is the ultimate best; Grymheart's Woe and Cliffshade have good locations but no gardens; Ravenhurst and Velothi Reverie have bad locations, small gardens, but good interiors; and Mournoth and Ald Velothi have good gardens and interiors, but fall short on location. The rest aren't really contenders because they have either pathetic interiors for a medium house (like the Ample Domicile) or have no point (.e.g. House of the Silent Magnifico - there's an inn room if you want a house in Sentinel, and there's Twin Arches if you want a Redguard house, both cost less).

Linaleah wrote: »

bluebird wrote: »

Between Mournoth and Sleek Creek, Sleek Creek for sure. The traders, outlaws refuge, writ hub and amenities there win by miles. Though if you already have a main city home and location isn't important, Mournoth may be better if you're planning on furnishing since it's quite a bit larger (though it has no water, and is quite dark inside).

Since you don't want to spend money on a large home, the best small homes are Snugpod (best location but no garden); Black Vine Villa (2nd best location with a garden); as well as Twin Arches and Autumn's Gate (worse locations but good value).

Amongst the medium homes, Sleek Creek is the ultimate best; Grymheart's Woe and Cliffshade have good locations but no gardens; Ravenhurst and Velothi Reverie have bad locations, small gardens, but good interiors; and Mournoth and Ald Velothi have good gardens and interiors, but fall short on location. The rest aren't really contenders because they have either pathetic interiors for a medium house (like the Ample Domicile) or have no point (.e.g. House of the Silent Magnifico - there's an inn room if you want a house in Sentinel, and there's Twin Arches if you want a Redguard house, both cost less).

I would argue that imperial small home is better then black vine villa. I LOVE black vine villa, it was the very first house i bought and decorated, but small imperial home is actualy inside the city limits, unlike Villa, that is farther away. (and it has larger garden) of course, villa is also 20k cheaper, but i honestly think better proximity and especially larger garden is worth it.

I can certainly see your point to an extent! I didn't consider Cyrodillic Jungle House because the interior is smaller than some inns (way smaller than Snugpod as well), and its garden isn't all that large either. I suppose the technicalities will be up to people's personal tastes.