PVP Artifact needs NERFED ASAP

  • Zenzuki
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  • JamieAubrey
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    So you know how ZOS said that EMP CAN'T PICK UP THE WEAPON ? Weeeeellllll if EMP ( while not crowned ) Gets the hammer and THEN is crowned EMP, guess what ?

    I might have complained a bit but THIS is number one priority now @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    this should be zos's response on anything that they do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY3OqM05xjo&feature=youtu.be&t=134
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  • shaielzafine
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    Lol they said they wanted more chaos on their Twitch stream, not balance. They absolutely meant for the weapon to be OP. Even game performance and server performance was supposed to be improved for current players but this new content came out first. I'm not surprised the new daedric weapon has an exploit / bug nor that you can get emp while having it. They can't (won't) fix bugs and performance issues and server crashes / login & disconnects. This is the norm for this game, we'll keep having new buggy, OP things sold to us as content while old content isn't fixed. They make more money marketing with all the new stuff & "updates" to look forward to as opposed to actual fixes
  • Girl_Number8
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    It was stated that this was a bad idea long before it went live but people didn't seem to care then and the feedback was ignored.

    So....it will be OP and in the game for a bit and it certainly did shake things up.

    Mission accomplished Zos



    Edited by Girl_Number8 on May 22, 2019 5:51PM
  • NBrookus
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    Over the years, I've come to dislike the emp mechanic more and more--when you are emp and do well, it's expected/unimpressive, when you are emp and do poorly, you're a trash emp--you can't win, really, and it skews the gameplay experience in ways I'm not sure are healthy (to say nothing of the toxicity that often surrounds emp pushes).

    This 100%. For every dedicated player that gets emp on a busy campaign in prime time, 99 more cheesed it on a low pop campaign, making Former Emperor titles mean little. Master Angler is harder.

    Nonetheless... I'm not ready to go back to Cyro yet, so no personal experience yet. But if this Artifact means destroying those long, laggy, last emp keep battles, then bring on the OPness.
  • Zacuel
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    If I took a shot for every time someone says adapt or l2p. I'd be dead by now.


    ... BTW, l2p.
  • Kagukan
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    Thraben wrote: »
    I would be happy if someone would try to use it during the primetime instead of PvDooring with a zerg at 1 a.m.

    The one and only time I have seen it in play was during prime time. Tons of fun. We had it, holder got killed, they had it, holder got killed, we had it, holder got killed, they had it and smashed the crap out of us. LOL. Pushed us back to tri keeps. Holder got killed. 3rd team picked it up, holder got killed. Weapon was gone. Great fun.

    Only played with the weapon in play one time but it was a breath of fresh air to Cyrodiil IMO.
  • peoplething
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    So they didn't want an Emp to have it, but if somebody Emp's while holding they use it, which is unintended ?

    are 12 year olds running the QC?

    that's some serious ball dropping, somebody needs to be fired over that one, jeezuz.

    and yeah, these things need to be toned down alot. a couple score evals with all the scrolls, emp and keeps and the other two factions won't have a chance in hell to catch up.
  • JamieAubrey
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    So they didn't want an Emp to have it, but if somebody Emp's while holding they use it, which is unintended ?

    are 12 year olds running the QC?

    that's some serious ball dropping, somebody needs to be fired over that one, jeezuz.

    and yeah, these things need to be toned down alot. a couple score evals with all the scrolls, emp and keeps and the other two factions won't have a chance in hell to catch up.

    I know the PTS is for this sort of testing but I don't anyone was willing to spend xx amount of hours PvP'ing waiting for the Weapon to spawn to test these things out
  • thegreatme
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    Tbh it seems like the simplest solution to artifact abuse in PvP would just be to make it so the whole team that has a current Emperor can't pick it up.
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  • Shalktonin
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    Conduit0 wrote: »
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    Conduit0 wrote: »
    Ah yes, complaints about zerging from the two sides that only know how to win by faction stacking.

    Quite frankly i have to break it to you once your on equal pop you cant even hold BRK :D

    Just name me a few good players in EP. Please do. I wanna hear those names and laugh.
    90% of EP is just zerging the other 10% is PvD'ing keeps from behind when something else gets tagged.
    Your not good players in all honesty. I know zerging might give you the impression that your awesome.

    Its rather pathetic to elevate yourselves when you are only zerging and night capping.
    Also you have to those awesome ball groups that join your zergs which makes me even laugh more.
    You see that group in the screenshot that runs in front.

    Its funny to see that your even too scared to chase me unless you have like 5-6 people.

    Fight on equal pop? That would require you to not constantly team green, its hardly equal numbers when DC is coming from the west and AD is coming from the south at the same time. Also its AD that night caps regularly, in fact itd the only way they ever win a campaign. Like I said its hilarious to talk down about zerging when the only way you can hold ANY keep is stack your entire faction in it and then call your buddies on the other team to come back cap.

    you really are delusional no DC in their right mind would ever do anything AD asked them to do EP and AD are filth plain and simple
  • OtarTheMad
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    Well I am not so sure about the artifact taking score, keeps owned and all that into account because in the Lowbie campaign it just spawned behind the DC gates. That wouldn't be an issue if DC wasn't Emp for the past 2+ hours and also have a 4k-5k lead on the other alliances. I sent in a ticket in case it's a bug but yeah... fix that immediately.
  • Tessitura
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    Whats with all the faction pride and hate issues here? It's like watching a bunch of people revert back to tribal chest beating but in a video game. Some people have brought up real points, we knew in the pts that this was probably going to be a problem, but we never got to really test it cause there was never enough people in Cyro. Now we are starting the real test for the weapon.
  • Rygonix
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    Tessitura wrote: »
    Whats with all the faction pride and hate issues here? It's like watching a bunch of people revert back to tribal chest beating but in a video game. Some people have brought up real points, we knew in the pts that this was probably going to be a problem, but we never got to really test it cause there was never enough people in Cyro. Now we are starting the real test for the weapon.
    It wouldn't be nearly that big of a deal if faction locks weren't incorporated the exact same time that this PvDoor wet dream weapon was introduced.
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  • MadMattatatta
    This should've just been it's own campaign
  • Lisutaris
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    ZOS_JesC wrote: »
    Greetings, we've removed a few baiting comments. This is a friendly reminder to remain constructive when posting. Thank you! :)

    .... Let me dual wield volendrung... pwetty pls ? PvD is new meta O_O
    Edit: Just making fun of it... instant nerf pls :smile:
    Edited by Lisutaris on May 22, 2019 10:37PM
  • KillsAllElves
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    Needs buffed. Too weak.
  • merevie
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    Silver lining. NA's Team Orange is over, if that map's any indication.
    Edited by merevie on May 23, 2019 4:30AM
  • Narvuntien
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    I think that its ability to smash zergs is great but the PVDoor issue seems absurd at how quickly it can just take everything.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    HellFlame wrote: »
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    Do you need anything more?
    This is what happens if this weapon ends up in an alliance that loves and entirely does nothing else than just pvd.

    Also I am thanking all the casual players for their low value inputs.

    Its a pvd weapon nothing more and nothing less. It is totally fun if they have emp and that weapon and a zerg.
    It will always end up in the zergier faction unless there is a good group holding it.

    Pointless to play cyrodiil at all if this does not get removed.

    The problem is the intense popularity of EP versus the other factions. The vast majority of players make their main in EP because that's where Skyrim and Morrowind are.
  • KhajiitFelix
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    This should've just been it's own campaign

    Yeah there should be a campaign with faction lock and this thing while other will be unlocked
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    Kurat wrote: »
    Lmfao
    Another typical pvp cry thread lol.
    If something kills you then its OP and demand nerf. If you have trouble killing someone then crying OP and demand nerf.
    Adapt and l2p

    Thats nothing. Come crying in Elswyer zone chat, that dragons need a nerf so they can single handed kill them wielding a shield...

  • Bosov
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    Feanor wrote: »
    @Mr_Walker

    History (2 years of Azura/Sotha Sil) shows EP doesn’t really care about healthy maps or having good fights. They’ll just congratulate each other on the campaign win, no matter how they got there. But then, people apparently do believe EP “has always been better at PvP”...

    But arent you that AD zerging sniper who marks, snipes, cloaks and runs from every fight? What could you possibly know about "having good fights"?
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  • Feanor
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    Bosov wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    @Mr_Walker

    History (2 years of Azura/Sotha Sil) shows EP doesn’t really care about healthy maps or having good fights. They’ll just congratulate each other on the campaign win, no matter how they got there. But then, people apparently do believe EP “has always been better at PvP”...

    But arent you that AD zerging sniper who marks, snipes, cloaks and runs from every fight? What could you possibly know about "having good fights"?

    Erm...no. I don’t even play my stamNB regularly, my /played is probably below 5 hours in Cyrodiil on that character.
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  • HairyFairy
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    One does not simply....nerf a daedric artifact.

    If uncle Sheo returned the artifact in a weakened state it would not go well!
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  • Rawkan
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    A daedric artifact being OP? Seems like it fits the lore to me.
  • technohic
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    thegreatme wrote: »
    Tbh it seems like the simplest solution to artifact abuse in PvP would just be to make it so the whole team that has a current Emperor can't pick it up.

    I like that idea, and I was also thinking that when the wielder dies or loses it. It should go flying 2/3 of the greatest distance across Cyrodiil possible to avoid the same zerg picking it back up
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    merevie wrote: »
    Silver lining. NA's Team Orange is over, if that map's any indication.

    /sarcasm Theres no team orange.


    No but I can believe theres no team orange. They just all like going for the softer targets in the lowest pop faction that does not seem to have a consistent ball group present. I've only ever seen Drac cut bait and go fight other groups and the rest seem to rather hit PUGs
  • ZarkingFrued
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    EP just took Alessia in like 45 seconds with this, they opened both MGs in like 10 seconds

    I know its a Daedric Weapon but COME ON

    By the time the keep is flagged and you react to it, its been taken

    That was the point boys
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