PVP Artifact needs NERFED ASAP

bulbousb16_ESO · May 2019

Can you guys not bulk-reply the comments with the three screenshots? What a waste of bandwidth!

CompM4s · May 2019

Looks like an interesting twist for pvp

grannas211 · May 2019

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

PvP in an MMO isn't supposed to be balanced. It's just a fun distraction from PvE.

This mechanic was designed to be chaotic. If you want serious PvP, you have BGs, or better yet, MOBAs.

BGs. Serious.

Pick One

luen79rwb17_ESO · May 2019

Oh a new PVP feature that unintentionally benefits the mindless zerg faction? What's new?

Durham · May 2019

Currently there are just more EP players. There are larger EP guilds.

1. Red 2. Yellow 3. Blue Sometimes blue barely locks thier population. Yellow does hit cap easily but and generally has short Q's. Reds have long Qs at times. Sometime when they start to spill over to Shore they push shore to 3 bars and they take that map with usually a battle group running around unopposed because no one will fight them.

If you put in the fact of relic bonuses and keep bonuses and the artifact yea its going to be a challenge to rein in RED. Hopefully some of the changes will fix some of the lag issues.

xeNNNNN · May 2019

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

if it destroy cyridiil can we have a pve campain?

At least it will stop pve nerf

The locks are fine. The weapon is not. The weapon is clearly grossly overpowered sure I guess from a narrative perspective its supposed to be but in terms of gameplay it is horribly broken. it will get nerfed.

Kagukan · May 2019

I was only able to play one time with the weapon in play so far. Last night was great fights out in the field with AD and EP pushing each other and swapping the weapon a few times. I didn't see any issues with the weapon being OP in those open field fights.
EP finally pushed AD back to Alessia and this was were I felt the weapon needs to be toned down a bit. The castle was breached way too fast. Should it be a faster than normal siege? Yes. Should it bash a door down in a few seconds? No.
Overall so far I feel the weapon has been a fun addition.

technohic · May 2019

Durham wrote: »

Currently there are just more EP players. There are larger EP guilds.

1. Red 2. Yellow 3. Blue Sometimes blue barely locks thier population. Yellow does hit cap easily but and generally has short Q's. Reds have long Qs at times. Sometime when they start to spill over to Shore they push shore to 3 bars and they take that map with usually a battle group running around unopposed because no one will fight them.

If you put in the fact of relic bonuses and keep bonuses and the artifact yea its going to be a challenge to rein in RED. Hopefully some of the changes will fix some of the lag issues.

Seems blue was pushed to gates first. Maybe people are rolling their necros DC. To resurrect the dead faction. Lol no. Probably not

Lord_Eomer · May 2019

3-4 times a day this weapon hardly spawn and it needs to be chaotic to have fun in PVP

No need for nerf!

Haashhtaag · May 2019

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

HellFlame wrote: »

Do you need anything more?
This is what happens if this weapon ends up in an alliance that loves and entirely does nothing else than just pvd.

Also I am thanking all the casual players for their low value inputs.

Its a pvd weapon nothing more and nothing less. It is totally fun if they have emp and that weapon and a zerg.
It will always end up in the zergier faction unless there is a good group holding it.

Pointless to play cyrodiil at all if this does not get removed.

If it ended up in favor of your color, you would not complain.

I’d be livid and bored out of my mind if the map looked like that and I logged into the only faction I could play, ep for this example. Literally no pvp.

Trinity_Is_My_Name · May 2019

LOL. It kicks butt doesn't it!?

IamDestiny · May 2019

Conduit0 wrote: »

What you actually mean is this what happens when the other two factions have to actually play fair against the faction that has always been better at pvp. Though I'm sure people from the other two factions will eventually buy enough alt accounts that things will return to normal.

Yes "better"

pieratsos · May 2019

Wut? You mean ZOS introduced a dumb mechanic in the game?

Sergykid · May 2019

haha and i thought i am the one paranoid when i made a topic about it before the release

NyassaV · May 2019

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

adapt

Can’t, they took away most sources of expedition. Good luck trying to get there in time.

Conduit0 · May 2019

HellFlame wrote: »

Conduit0 wrote: »

What you actually mean is this what happens when the other two factions have to actually play fair against the faction that has always been better at pvp. Though I'm sure people from the other two factions will eventually buy enough alt accounts that things will return to normal.

Yes "better"

Ah yes, complaints about zerging from the two sides that only know how to win by faction stacking.

Grandma · May 2019

in an alternate timeline, OP whined that the weapon carried no value and was weak and pitiful, and that zos is incompetent for not making the wielder feel cool for carrying it because it doesn't mean anything.

I'm fine with this timeline though.

IamDestiny · May 2019

Conduit0 wrote: »

Ah yes, complaints about zerging from the two sides that only know how to win by faction stacking.

Quite frankly i have to break it to you once your on equal pop you cant even hold BRK

Just name me a few good players in EP. Please do. I wanna hear those names and laugh.
90% of EP is just zerging the other 10% is PvD'ing keeps from behind when something else gets tagged.
Your not good players in all honesty. I know zerging might give you the impression that your awesome.

Its rather pathetic to elevate yourselves when you are only zerging and night capping.
Also you have to those awesome ball groups that join your zergs which makes me even laugh more.
You see that group in the screenshot that runs in front.

Its funny to see that your even too scared to chase me unless you have like 5-6 people.

MaxwellC · May 2019

Just wanna pop in and state the obvious.

This weapon should not have existed PERIOD. You give a weapon call it "Emperor killer" and the effort to acquire that weapon is a Fortnite style random spawner. I'd be okay if it went to someone who was top of the alliance leaderboards at random (top 10) but this... yeah this is just stupid and further gives this "PVP should be easy" ideology more growth room.

Noxavian · May 2019

Adapt to the situation.

TrinityBreaker · May 2019

100k says the OP will ask ZoS to nerf overland trash mobs because they smacked him.

JamieAubrey · May 2019

TrinityBreaker wrote: »

100k says the OP will ask ZoS to nerf overland trash mobs because they smacked him.

I'll let you know when I do PvE how that goes

Sotha_Sil · May 2019

Almost makes me want to set foot in Cyrodiil again to have a good laugh!

Rygonix · May 2019

ZoS screwed up and broke pvp!? Color me shocked and in awe!

Adernath · May 2019

Can we have an artifact to nuke zerg trains instead?

Gariele · May 2019

I was actually enjoying soaking up all the free AP, Follow the Hammer- Profit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

fred4 · May 2019

Intextio wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

HellFlame wrote: »

Do you need anything more?
This is what happens if this weapon ends up in an alliance that loves and entirely does nothing else than just pvd.

Also I am thanking all the casual players for their low value inputs.

Its a pvd weapon nothing more and nothing less. It is totally fun if they have emp and that weapon and a zerg.
It will always end up in the zergier faction unless there is a good group holding it.

Pointless to play cyrodiil at all if this does not get removed.

I am not surprised by the power but lasting long enough to push all this is too much. I expected shorter duration. It was supposed to be a counter to emp, but that wont work if you get emp and it both

Probably will happen often when AD would rather push west than defend their east keeps

There is a counter to the weapon, stop throwing yourself at it. It feeds off enemy lives to maintain it's power, if you avoid the wielder, it will kill the wielder. People just keep throwing themselves at the artifact and wonder why the artifact carrier is so strong. Stop feeding it.

Is this ZOS' idea to combat the lag? All players concentrated in one area of the map? Cyro laggy af? Poof! Weapon appears and the two factions who don't have it disperse in all directions? I wouldn't be surprised. FFS, ZOS, just fix the lag!

Moloch1514 · May 2019

I always thought Cyrodiil was designed for large-scale PvP which required taking as many keeps as possible, encouraging large armies to stick together in order to "win" that campaign. Sounds like EP is doing Cyrodiil as originally designed, yet people are "shaming" them for having large armies that stick together and take keeps. 🤔

Liww · May 2019

I cant believe people defend this whole ordeal lol i'm on console but anyone looking at this somewhat objectively should see it's busted.

instead of feeding it it should be able to deal X amount of damage before being used up. ie it can be used to ez cap 3-ish keeps before being used up. 5 moments per day where the faction that picks it up can make a big unopposed push.

as it looks now its just trivializing any effort ppl put towards pushing for certain objectives.

ArchMikem · May 2019

Durham wrote: »

Currently there are just more EP players. There are larger EP guilds.

1. Red 2. Yellow 3. Blue Sometimes blue barely locks thier population. Yellow does hit cap easily but and generally has short Q's. Reds have long Qs at times. Sometime when they start to spill over to Shore they push shore to 3 bars and they take that map with usually a battle group running around unopposed because no one will fight them.

If you put in the fact of relic bonuses and keep bonuses and the artifact yea its going to be a challenge to rein in RED. Hopefully some of the changes will fix some of the lag issues.

Lol, PC sure sounds opposite land of Xbox. Red is the server punching bag here. Ever heard of Team Green? Yellows and Blues just LOVE focusing all their attention on our keeps and rarely fight each other. Theyll both own half the map but we'll be gated constantly. Blues and Yellows are obsessed.