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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683901

I want my flesh atronach.

Unit117
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So do you all remember the first time you created a flesh atronach? He was your child and you miss him dearly. Necromancers should have him as a pet to the class. It’s a missed opportunity not letting us fight with him. Bring him into the class please eso.
  • Noxavian
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    HONESTLY I really feel like the Gravelord ult should summon this guy instead of what it does presently.
  • Unit117
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    Noxavian wrote: »
    HONESTLY I really feel like the Gravelord ult should summon this guy instead of what it does presently.

    @Noxavian
    Same! I Imagine my little guy out there trying his hardest with a battle cry like teen groot.
    Edited by Unit117 on May 8, 2019 11:47PM
  • Noxavian
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    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    HONESTLY I really feel like the Gravelord ult should summon this guy instead of what it does presently.

    @Noxavian
    Same! I Imagine my little guy out there trying his hardest with a battle cry like teen groot.

    Exactly! Plus do you also find it almost a crime the *necromancer* of all classes doesn't have an ult where it summons something?
  • Unit117
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    Noxavian wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    HONESTLY I really feel like the Gravelord ult should summon this guy instead of what it does presently.

    @Noxavian
    Same! I Imagine my little guy out there trying his hardest with a battle cry like teen groot.

    Exactly! Plus do you also find it almost a crime the *necromancer* of all classes doesn't have an ult where it summons something?

    Yeah. Honestly the class doesn’t reallly feel like a necromancer. They missed the mark imo. It needs a pet of some sort even if you can’t have the pet in towns.
  • Noxavian
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    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    HONESTLY I really feel like the Gravelord ult should summon this guy instead of what it does presently.

    @Noxavian
    Same! I Imagine my little guy out there trying his hardest with a battle cry like teen groot.

    Exactly! Plus do you also find it almost a crime the *necromancer* of all classes doesn't have an ult where it summons something?

    Yeah. Honestly the class doesn’t reallly feel like a necromancer. They missed the mark imo. It needs a pet of some sort even if you can’t have the pet in towns.

    I feel the exact same way tbh. Like in ES lore and ES games in general necromancers have always been the *summoning* dudes, next to conjurers of course. I feel like this version of an ES necromancer NOT ONLY goes against how literally all necromancer npcs work, but how necros work in es over all. Dark magic should be a secondary focus when making a necromancer, raising the dead and other undead creations is what they're most known for. I dunno, I feel like they avoided summoning too much tbh. I'm very disappointed there isn't even a single zombie summon, in a NECROMANCER class. I don't even like zombies in ES, but it's literally just their staple ability. I really think Gravelord should of been all about summoning and then living death be about buffing/abilities that affect summons/players. The bone tyrant line is fine.
  • Mr_Walker
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    Noxavian wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    HONESTLY I really feel like the Gravelord ult should summon this guy instead of what it does presently.

    @Noxavian
    Same! I Imagine my little guy out there trying his hardest with a battle cry like teen groot.

    Exactly! Plus do you also find it almost a crime the *necromancer* of all classes doesn't have an ult where it summons something?

    YES! So... much... YES!
  • ashuraizumi
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    with the new necro class do we get to make and summon a pet flesh atronach?
  • Grandesdar
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    with the new necro class do we get to make and summon a pet flesh atronach?

    No. That's the problem.
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  • Girl_Number8
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    No flesh atronachs for us because that would be FUN :/

    I feel Zos enjoys Nerfing fun....The emotes with the bone colossus was fun, which is why it is gone. uwu

    Buff Fun
    Edited by Girl_Number8 on May 15, 2019 10:00AM
  • Androconium
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    No flesh atronachs for us because that would be FUN :/

    I feel Zos enjoys Nerfing fun....The emotes with the bone colossus was fun, which is why it is gone. uwu

    Buff Fun

    Consume.
    Be Silent.
    Die.

    do as expected, please.
  • barney2525
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    ummm... well, geee.... the first time I created a flesh atronach he lived for 15 seconds.... just long enough to activate the ward on a door and dissolve into goo.

    Didn't really have much bonding time




  • Girl_Number8
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    No flesh atronachs for us because that would be FUN :/

    I feel Zos enjoys Nerfing fun....The emotes with the bone colossus was fun, which is why it is gone. uwu

    Buff Fun

    Consume.
    Be Silent.
    Die.

    do as expected, please.

    No
    Never
    Not an option
    Cx

    Need Zos to add flesh atronach and let the emotes work with the bone colossus again :D
    Edited by Girl_Number8 on May 15, 2019 10:29AM
  • Aetherderius
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    Flesh Atronach mount. Ride their shoulders.

    Or Flesh Atronach crate mounts. Fleshy horse, Fleshy bear, yadda yadda
  • Gatviper
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    There you go. Unfortunately, I doubt Necromancer in the game will be looking anywhere near as impressive.

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    The rhythm of wheels, time fades away, stations of a journey, destination unknown.
  • Uryel
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    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    HONESTLY I really feel like the Gravelord ult should summon this guy instead of what it does presently.

    @Noxavian
    Same! I Imagine my little guy out there trying his hardest with a battle cry like teen groot.

    Exactly! Plus do you also find it almost a crime the *necromancer* of all classes doesn't have an ult where it summons something?

    Yeah. Honestly the class doesn’t reallly feel like a necromancer. They missed the mark imo. It needs a pet of some sort even if you can’t have the pet in towns.

    But that would require a way to unsummon the pet. Currently, to unsummon a pet, youeither have to get it killed or remove the skill from your bar / switch to a bar that doesn't have it if it's not equipped on both.

    Pet management in this game is a mess. No direct command input, and we even need an addon to display their health, FFS.
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Mini flesh atronach non combat pet
  • Unit117
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    Uryel wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    HONESTLY I really feel like the Gravelord ult should summon this guy instead of what it does presently.

    @Noxavian
    Same! I Imagine my little guy out there trying his hardest with a battle cry like teen groot.

    Exactly! Plus do you also find it almost a crime the *necromancer* of all classes doesn't have an ult where it summons something?

    Yeah. Honestly the class doesn’t reallly feel like a necromancer. They missed the mark imo. It needs a pet of some sort even if you can’t have the pet in towns.

    But that would require a way to unsummon the pet. Currently, to unsummon a pet, youeither have to get it killed or remove the skill from your bar / switch to a bar that doesn't have it if it's not equipped on both.

    Pet management in this game is a mess. No direct command input, and we even need an addon to display their health, FFS.

    @Uryel
    There’s a better idea. Make major towns unsummon zones. So it automatically unsummons pets once you enter into the city. It would be perfect and addresss the issue of pets in everyone’s way. 🙂
  • Fleshreaper
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    Unit117 wrote: »
    Uryel wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    HONESTLY I really feel like the Gravelord ult should summon this guy instead of what it does presently.

    @Noxavian
    Same! I Imagine my little guy out there trying his hardest with a battle cry like teen groot.

    Exactly! Plus do you also find it almost a crime the *necromancer* of all classes doesn't have an ult where it summons something?

    Yeah. Honestly the class doesn’t reallly feel like a necromancer. They missed the mark imo. It needs a pet of some sort even if you can’t have the pet in towns.

    But that would require a way to unsummon the pet. Currently, to unsummon a pet, youeither have to get it killed or remove the skill from your bar / switch to a bar that doesn't have it if it's not equipped on both.

    Pet management in this game is a mess. No direct command input, and we even need an addon to display their health, FFS.

    @Uryel
    There’s a better idea. Make major towns unsummon zones. So it automatically unsummons pets once you enter into the city. It would be perfect and addresss the issue of pets in everyone’s way. 🙂

    Problem with that is too many players duel in cities. Having those skills break the law, prevents necros from dueling in cities. But on the same hand using Vamp and Werewolf and sorc pets should also break the law.
  • Salvas_Aren
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    No flesh atronachs for us because that would be FUN :/

    I feel Zos enjoys Nerfing fun....The emotes with the bone colossus was fun, which is why it is gone. uwu

    Buff Fun

    Consume.
    Be Silent.
    Die.

    do as expected, please.

    Nerf expectations. >:)
  • ArchangelIsraphel
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    But they changed one of the ults to look like a flesh atronach already. It used to look like a bone dragon on the original design for the class....which was much cooler.

    Please. No more hideous flesh atronach for my necromancer. >_>
    Legends never die
    They're written down in eternity
    But you'll never see the price it costs
    The scars collected all their lives
    When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
    Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
    Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
    Legends never die
  • Fleshreaper
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    I honestly would like to know the reasoning behind the necros law breaking, when you have NPCs that ignore other class law breaking abilities. Are they going to change this for more skills? Are they going to create cities where NPCs just don't care.
  • Unit117
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    Unit117 wrote: »
    Uryel wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    HONESTLY I really feel like the Gravelord ult should summon this guy instead of what it does presently.

    @Noxavian
    Same! I Imagine my little guy out there trying his hardest with a battle cry like teen groot.

    Exactly! Plus do you also find it almost a crime the *necromancer* of all classes doesn't have an ult where it summons something?

    Yeah. Honestly the class doesn’t reallly feel like a necromancer. They missed the mark imo. It needs a pet of some sort even if you can’t have the pet in towns.

    But that would require a way to unsummon the pet. Currently, to unsummon a pet, youeither have to get it killed or remove the skill from your bar / switch to a bar that doesn't have it if it's not equipped on both.

    Pet management in this game is a mess. No direct command input, and we even need an addon to display their health, FFS.

    @Uryel
    There’s a better idea. Make major towns unsummon zones. So it automatically unsummons pets once you enter into the city. It would be perfect and addresss the issue of pets in everyone’s way. 🙂

    Problem with that is too many players duel in cities. Having those skills break the law, prevents necros from dueling in cities. But on the same hand using Vamp and Werewolf and sorc pets should also break the law.

    Let duels override it. That’s pretty simple lol
  • Unit117
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    But they changed one of the ults to look like a flesh atronach already. It used to look like a bone dragon on the original design for the class....which was much cooler.

    Please. No more hideous flesh atronach for my necromancer. >_>


    @ArchangelIsraphel the only hideous thing here will be your face after I let my flesh atronach beat you with his tiny deformed arms. Take back what you said about flesh Atronachs! >:(
  • ArchangelIsraphel
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    Unit117 wrote: »
    But they changed one of the ults to look like a flesh atronach already. It used to look like a bone dragon on the original design for the class....which was much cooler.

    Please. No more hideous flesh atronach for my necromancer. >_>


    @ArchangelIsraphel the only hideous thing here will be your face after I let my flesh atronach beat you with his tiny deformed arms. Take back what you said about flesh Atronachs! >:(

    No! He'll have to get through my imaginary bone dragon army first >:{
    Legends never die
    They're written down in eternity
    But you'll never see the price it costs
    The scars collected all their lives
    When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
    Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
    Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
    Legends never die
  • Michaelkeir
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    I agree....I wanted a Flesh Atronach. Doesn't have to be permanent. Like an ultimate. Last for 20 secs, runs around and smashes enemies and spits/vomits acid/diease damage. Or at the very least make a helm/shoulder combo that has a 10%-15% to summon a flesh Atronach during light attacks. That last for 20 secs.

    And while we are at it...make our summons last like 20-30 secs instead of this measly 15 secs we have now. It's honestly pathetic. The skeleton mage is BAD. I'd rather have a melee sword weilding skeleton who runs into melee and draws Argo off of me. Shot how about both. 1 range and 1 melee pet that last 25 secs. Makes more sense than what the devs have come up with honestly.
  • Konstant_Tel_Necris
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    Make your own, you already know how if you done with Main Quest.
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  • Uryel
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    Unit117 wrote: »
    Uryel wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    Unit117 wrote: »
    Noxavian wrote: »
    HONESTLY I really feel like the Gravelord ult should summon this guy instead of what it does presently.

    @Noxavian
    Same! I Imagine my little guy out there trying his hardest with a battle cry like teen groot.

    Exactly! Plus do you also find it almost a crime the *necromancer* of all classes doesn't have an ult where it summons something?

    Yeah. Honestly the class doesn’t reallly feel like a necromancer. They missed the mark imo. It needs a pet of some sort even if you can’t have the pet in towns.

    But that would require a way to unsummon the pet. Currently, to unsummon a pet, youeither have to get it killed or remove the skill from your bar / switch to a bar that doesn't have it if it's not equipped on both.

    Pet management in this game is a mess. No direct command input, and we even need an addon to display their health, FFS.

    @Uryel
    There’s a better idea. Make major towns unsummon zones. So it automatically unsummons pets once you enter into the city. It would be perfect and addresss the issue of pets in everyone’s way. 🙂

    Problem with that is too many players duel in cities. Having those skills break the law, prevents necros from dueling in cities. But on the same hand using Vamp and Werewolf and sorc pets should also break the law.

    Well then, make dueling outlawed too :P

    "You would duel me ? How droll. But then, how can we have a proper contest when yuou don't even know the Aldmeri code of dueling ?". Man, I think I head that one way too many times while in Summerset. ot quite as much as "Do you know how long I've been looking for you ?", but quite a bit.

    More seriously though, yeah, Werewolf transformation should be outlawed too. As for vampire skills... They're not quite as obvious. Well, the big "I'll suck your blood from miles away" is, but the bats or the mist form are dubious. But again, every stage 4 vampire look like they fell from the ugly tree and hit all the branches on the way down, so just looking like that could be outlawed.

    As for the daedric pets... Summoning isn't illegal itself, but consorting with daedra is in some parts of the world. In Summerset, you would probably get jailed. Or more likely burned at the stake, they are quite touchy about daedras there. Elsewhere, the the worst you'd get would probably be someone spitting on the ground behind you.

    And what about Morrowind ? When Vvardenfell was integrated to the Empire, the treaty with the Tribunal specifically mentionned that the practice of summoning ancestors for counsel or honoring them should not be outlawed. Basically, mundane necromancy isn't illegal there. Pretty sure ripping the bones from the ground and forming a colossus with them is, but summoning a ghost ? Nobody would flinch.
  • Uryel
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    Make your own, you already know how if you done with Main Quest.
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    "Ah, we'll make a Necromancer out of you yet !" - Abnur Tharn.
    Edited by Uryel on May 17, 2019 9:23AM
  • mann9753b16_ESO
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    This might be an unpopular opinion, but I never imagined Necromancers as a pet class (like a WoW hunter or an ESO Warden).

    The Undeads they summon are not Pets to them, they are tools, they are created with one command and once they did it, they outlived their usefullnes.

    Therefore I really think the Necromancer we get is fitting, He summons the undead to attack his enemy (Blast Bones, Skeleton Mage/Archer, the Colossus) To protect him (The Spirit Mender) or to stop his enemys (The dead that reach out of the ground for Grave Grasp), and after that, they are no longer of use, so they die.

    I dont know, it would feel wrong to have basically a reskinned Warden Ult for the Necromancer...
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