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Why Does Incap Still Have Reave?
NyassaV
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Title says it all. Stamblade does not need more sustain. Even in PvE it's unnecessary.
If Reave doesn't get moved to soul harvest you'll find most magblades going back to Incap if they weren't there already. Feel free to take the defile off. Magblade has enough ways to secure kills
Edited by NyassaV on May 14, 2019 1:06AM If Reave doesn't get moved to soul harvest you'll find most magblades going back to Incap if they weren't there already. Feel free to take the defile off. Magblade has enough ways to secure kills
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Xologamer✭✭✭✭stamblade has the worst sustain of all atm so i think its a good idea to buff the sustain a little bit
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Xologamer✭✭✭✭and magbladed has a good sustain(i play my own with a mag reg glyph on the weap and the reg buffood ~50k dps
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darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭No idea, maybe has to do with plans for next round of patch notes? Setting up for future changes???0 -
Vercingetorix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Magblades (and to a lesser extent Stamblades) are effectively extinct in Elsweyr. Incapacitating Strike's stun removal and breakable Silence means that it now is useless against everything - it's just a little burst that can be ignored with mild defensive tactics. Nightblades lose Minor Berserk and now have a wet noodle spectral bow, but hey, you get a little sustain, right? Well, it was a good run while it lasted, gents! Better luck next CHAPTER!“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”15 -
MashmalloMan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Don't most people back bar incap anyway. You would lose a good deal of stats from flawless dawnbreaker not being on front bar.. at least from a pve perspective.
In pvp I'd assume it's the same unless you wanted easier access to incap or dawnbreaker of smiting for an aoe stun.3 -
Flame_of_Hades✭✭✭Marshall1289 wrote: »Don't most people back bar incap anyway. You would lose a good deal of stats from flawless dawnbreaker not being on front bar.. at least from a pve perspective.
In pvp I'd assume it's the same unless you wanted easier access to incap or dawnbreaker of smiting for an aoe stun.
on stamblade it was mostly incap front bar and another ult backbar (healing morph of soul tether, balista, meteor, etc..)
Ults are alot more interchangeable in pvp. The difference between magblade and stamblade is that stamblade doesn't need incap/SH, but magblade does.0 -
Rikumaru✭✭✭✭✭
✭Probably because they want people to continue to be using incap rather than dawnbreaker (at least front bar) and also maybe to compensate for the removal of minor endurance from grim focus.Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.1 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Meh, incap was already a little overrated. Just stop using it, dawnbreaker is outright better.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
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darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭Marshall1289 wrote: »Don't most people back bar incap anyway. You would lose a good deal of stats from flawless dawnbreaker not being on front bar.. at least from a pve perspective.
In pvp I'd assume it's the same unless you wanted easier access to incap or dawnbreaker of smiting for an aoe stun.
A survival based ulti is usually also slotted often on the back bar which is usually set up with buffs, utility skills, and defensive skills. So then damage ultis get put on the front bar almost as much because of that as anything.0 -
Xologamer✭✭✭✭and magbladed has a good sustain(i play my own with a mag reg glyph on the weap and the reg buffood ~50k dps
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nope xD? stamNB has in PVE with distance the worst sustain
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nope xD? stamNB has in PVE with distance the worst sustain
leeching strikes can restore up to 6k stam every 20 seconds and stamblade gets 15% regen from passives. Stamsorc gets 20% regen from passives and Nothing else. How is stamblade Sustain worse again?
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darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭Sanguinor2 wrote: »
To be fair Stamsorc isn't a real class and won't be till ZOS gets around to working on base classes than need a lot of work XD. In before someone types it, no, Dark Deal isn't competitive sustain in PVE.7 -
Silver_Strider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Incap traded a Defile/Stun for a Silence/Sustain buff. Soul Harvest is a Defile/Ultimate Regen. The 2 are balanced against one another pretty nicely as a result but you want Soul Harvest to get even more while leaving Incap totally worthless?
Talk about selfish.Edited by Silver_Strider on May 13, 2019 4:57PMArgonian forever12 -
Xologamer✭✭✭✭if they would give the sustain buff the mag morph i woul dfucking play them on a stam blade and it woould be stronger than the stma morph
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killingspreeb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Title says it all. Stamblade does not need more sustain. Even in PvE it's unnecessary.
If Reave doesn't get moved to soul harvest you'll find most magblades going back to Incap if they weren't there already
but why stamblade should lose it?
i mean stambalde traded a stun for a silence which is worse since you can break it,move and does not work on stamina skill and need 120 ultimate also lost major defile for reave.
soul harvest got major defile at base cost and also more ultimate regen while slotted.
can you explain outside of "i want it on mageblade"?
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✭✭✭So you want Soul Harvest to have Reave, Major Defile and ult gen (at 70 cost btw) and Incap having a weak stun at 120 cost?I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.3 -
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✭✭Just another nerf to Magblade as they will pick Incap for the sustain over soul harvest and do 25% less dmg unless in no cp. Magblades already often using melee weapons and hitting for noodles with their light and heavy attacks.Xbox GT: Rex Umbrah
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✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »So you want Soul Harvest to have Reave, Major Defile and ult gen (at 70 cost btw) and Incap having a weak stun at 120 cost?
Sounds legit.
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✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »So you want Soul Harvest to have Reave, Major Defile and ult gen (at 70 cost btw) and Incap having a weak stun at 120 cost?
Sounds legit.
Take the Defile off EZ fixFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info1 -
Yiko✭✭✭✭✭Title says it all. Stamblade does not need more sustain. Even in PvE it's unnecessary.
If Reave doesn't get moved to soul harvest you'll find most magblades going back to Incap if they weren't there already
Imagine looking at the current iteration of Incap and complaining about Reave. In noCP on stamblade, I am probably going to be using Soul Harvest. Incap needs another rework. This conditional silence effect with its "counterplay" is too asinine.9 -
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✭Vercingetorix wrote: »Magblades (and to a lesser extent Stamblades) are effectively extinct in Elsweyr. Incapacitating Strike's stun removal and breakable Silence means that it now is useless against everything - it's just a little burst that can be ignored with mild defensive tactics. Nightblades lose Minor Berserk and now have a wet noodle spectral bow, but hey, you get a little sustain, right? Well, it was a good run while it lasted, gents! Better luck next CHAPTER!
😂😄😄😂😄😂😄😂😄😂😄😂😄😂😄😂 I cant even handle this right now ❤ ult costs nothing for the damage it deals, and stuns mag users, as well as free sustain. Sure, it doesn't compare to the drastic mess it is on Live, but you shouldn't expect an overperfoming skill to be as powerful after being adjusted. No point in considering the arbitrary buffs NB received this patch either? We're all very sorry to hear your Godmode nightblade was nerfed into a Hercules. Just run DB like every other stam class or be happy you can practically weave incaps.8 -
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✭✭✭✭ZarkingFrued wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »Magblades (and to a lesser extent Stamblades) are effectively extinct in Elsweyr. Incapacitating Strike's stun removal and breakable Silence means that it now is useless against everything - it's just a little burst that can be ignored with mild defensive tactics. Nightblades lose Minor Berserk and now have a wet noodle spectral bow, but hey, you get a little sustain, right? Well, it was a good run while it lasted, gents! Better luck next CHAPTER!
😂😄😄😂😄😂😄😂😄😂😄😂😄😂😄😂 I cant even handle this right now ❤ ult costs nothing for the damage it deals, and stuns mag users, as well as free sustain. Sure, it doesn't compare to the drastic mess it is on Live, but you shouldn't expect an overperfoming skill to be as powerful after being adjusted. No point in considering the arbitrary buffs NB received this patch either? We're all very sorry to hear your Godmode nightblade was nerfed into a Hercules. Just run DB like every other stam class or be happy you can practically weave incaps.
stamNB has only ever been a ganker or 1v1 fighter if they don’t do the same heavybleed cheese as everyone else
Incap has never been overloaded considering it’s dodgeable and the cc is blockable. You can match the damage with just about any ult8 -
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✭✭✭✭Because it has nothing else going for it. Why does Soul Harvest still have Major Defile? That's the better question.7 -
NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Because it has nothing else going for it. Why does Soul Harvest still have Major Defile? That's the better question.
Take it off. It doesn't need Defile, it has enough ways to secure killsFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info2 -
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✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »Incap traded a Defile/Stun for a Silence/Sustain buff. Soul Harvest is a Defile/Ultimate Regen. The 2 are balanced against one another pretty nicely as a result but you want Soul Harvest to get even more while leaving Incap totally worthless?
Talk about selfish.
This. These choices are balanced.
Not going to happen now and shouldn't really happen next year when they take a look again.Edited by brandonv516 on May 14, 2019 1:14AM1 -
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✭I'd choose Major Defile over Reave on soul harvest everyday. I already have ele drain and siphoning attacks for mag sustain.Edited by HowlKimchi on May 14, 2019 4:30AM0
