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Mount available to only what 1% of the game ?

Mordors
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Sunspire Ice-Fire Senche-Lion is a rewarded achievement mount only to those who can finish new Veteran Sunspire in all of its achievements....

INCLUDING: Tick-Tock-Tormentor Version of itself (Full Hardmode on all bosses 30 min speed run with no death.)

Don't get me wrong i like the HM Skins before but why I now have to leave my job my daily life my existence in the world and join a Diehard guild to get something... There was nothing wrong with the HM system to be honest it allowed for at least some of the people to get the skin... for those that tried with their friends for a while practiced it. I played ESO for 3000 hours I just finished vCR+3 couple of days ago getting that skin. Don't get me wrong I’m ok with hard but WTF For real this achievement is only going to be in top guilds list there is no way in hell more than 1% will even try to attempt to this...

People were mad cause they couldn't get HM Skins now you moved the stupid skins to Vet allowing 80% of the game to get it (or buy it....) but the rest are doomed with no rewards for doing HM content? WTF (Please don't give a defense saying “ohh you get Tittle for it”, People want to look cool and most people don't read tittles unless they want to, but everyone will see your character.)
  • Druid40
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    If they can earn it then I am fine with that. The difficulty involved should allow for exclusive cosmetic rewards.
  • Jhalin
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    I am in extreme support of more rewards for end-game content, as well as all other content

    The skin is available on non-hm vet, the mount and the titles are for people who want to push themselves to do even better

    More mounts and cosmetics should be added for easier content yes. That’s one aspect in which this game holds no candle to many other MMOs, but these rewards for Sunspire are absolutely a good idea

    The only problem with these cosmetics are how easily you can tell one is just a minorly tweaked Crytsalfrost skin, and the other is Nightmare Sench flame effects on a minorly tweaked Ice Senche

    They should be more unique
  • Mordors
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    How Cheap made the skins are total another topic to disscuss thats for sure but i don't really see a point in going from 80% of the game to 1% instanly... felt like there should have been a midway.
  • themaddaedra
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    It's not even %1 of the mounts available in the game tho. Forums need to stop being ridiculous.
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  • Druid40
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    Mordors wrote: »
    How Cheap made the skins are total another topic to disscuss thats for sure but i don't really see a point in going from 80% of the game to 1% instanly... felt like there should have been a midway.

    How about a lesser but still really good cosmetic?
  • LiquidPony
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    What's your point?
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Jhalin wrote: »
    I am in extreme support of more rewards for end-game content, as well as all other content

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    More mounts and cosmetics should be added for easier content yes. That’s one aspect in which this game holds no candle to many other MMOs, but these rewards for Sunspire are absolutely a good idea

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    100% agree on both of that. But you know, they crown items don't sell themselves.
  • Mordors
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    How Cheap made the skins are total another topic to disscuss thats for sure but i don't really see a point in going from 80% of the game to 1% instanly... felt like there should have been a midway.
    Druid40 wrote: »
    Mordors wrote: »
    How Cheap made the skins are total another topic to disscuss thats for sure but i don't really see a point in going from 80% of the game to 1% instanly... felt like there should have been a midway.

    How about a lesser but still really good cosmetic?

    Anything that should have been sufficient, we can all agree that skin given is already re made of the copy of the old skin... re-making another one for midway shouldn't be hard for em now is it.
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    Druid40 wrote: »
    If they can earn it then I am fine with that. The difficulty involved should allow for exclusive cosmetic rewards.

    Pretty much this.

    It is available to everyone in the game. Those who are willing to put the work into obtaining the achievement will obtain the mount.
  • ManwithBeard9
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    As a human potato that hasn't even done all the bse game dungeons on vet, git gud.
  • jypcy
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    Tmk Sunspire is considered a full trial, and tmk full trials have never given cosmetic rewards for regular ol’ hard mode (and those that have a skin associated with them all reward it with a regular vet completion). Mini trials are the ones that have the skin tied to hm.
  • Mordors
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    As a human potato that hasn't even done all the bse game dungeons on vet, git gud.

    As a human organism that fails to even read something get lost.
  • Nestor
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    Olympic Medals are only available every 4 years and limited to the top 3 in their chosen sport.

    There is a reason why the Olympics are so important, and it is not because people get a medal for showing up.
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  • Mordors
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Olympic Medals are only available every 4 years and limited to the top 3 in their chosen sport.

    There is a reason why the Olympics are so important, and it is not because people get a medal for showing up.

    Pretty sure Olympics also have 3 stages not bronze vs gold :)
  • Vertilvius
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    The mount is ugly so who cares.
  • DarknDarker
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    I don't mind the mount being locked behind that, but I do mind the fact that there are no regularly available mounts, besides horse, and the indriks( sort of), that can be gooten in game, without cash. Honestly, at least abasic version of each of the 6 base mount types should be available in game to be earned, without being locked behind obsurd grind or stupidly difficult content only a handful of people will ever actually do
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    I don't mind the mount being locked behind that, but I do mind the fact that there are no regularly available mounts, besides horse, and the indriks( sort of), that can be gooten in game, without cash. Honestly, at least abasic version of each of the 6 base mount types should be available in game to be earned, without being locked behind obsurd grind or stupidly difficult content only a handful of people will ever actually do

    Pretty much this, for achivements i have no problem for those that do want to comple such achivement do it and gain something out of it for sure but we need more options... for those that are in the middle no casual no diehard either. Level of Skillbase in ESO Stretched far enough to support such idea.
  • Irylia
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    Can we get a real arena for pvp
    Like wow
    And 2’s or 3’s with mmr and rewards after each season (new patch)
    Could take some ideas from gw2 with the statues of your character on display for everyone.
    Unique title/mount/costume
  • DocFrost72
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    End game content should have its rewards.
    Entry level content should have its rewards.

    In a lot of ways it is already like this. The werewolf bohemoth momento was a reward for an achievement in MoS you could do on normal, maelstrom/dragonstar/AS all have titles for normal modes.

    Why can't they both get their own unlocks? Why can't we get cool mounts, titles, skins, polys, and pets from normal and vet modes?

    Edit to clarify: Vet should have unique rewards, normal should have unique rewards, everyone's happy.
    Edited by DocFrost72 on May 9, 2019 6:49PM
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Olympic Medals are only available every 4 years and limited to the top 3 in their chosen sport.

    There is a reason why the Olympics are so important, and it is not because people get a medal for showing up.

    Well, if you handle this game like an olympian handles his sport I might have bad news for you. But each to their own I guess.
  • Nestor
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Olympic Medals are only available every 4 years and limited to the top 3 in their chosen sport.

    There is a reason why the Olympics are so important, and it is not because people get a medal for showing up.

    Well, if you handle this game like an olympian handles his sport I might have bad news for you. But each to their own I guess.

    No, my point is some people are better at some things than others.
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  • Grandma
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    i.. this is unfathomable. you're just all over the place.

    Originally the skins were tied behind vet hm. people complained that they're impossible to get. So they changed it back to vet. But to keep hardcores happy they added another incentive to do vet hm.

    like... you still get a reward for doing vet. Both sides win. You can't always have everything unless you put in the effort. I just... Do you want everything to be in the crown store or something? First you say that you put all this effort into getting the vCR+3 skin and then you complain that they made things too easy by... making there be incentives for vet and hm completions? but you also said why should you have to join a hardmode guild and lose your life to do them? Like, what do you want?
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  • ecru
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    I'll get the mount, but I'll never use it. I'd rather have a different skin for HM that isn't a slight redesign of an existing skin that everyone already has. Oh well. I agree that it's kind of weird that there isn't really any reward for HM, seems like a pretty major oversight to me.
    Edited by ecru on May 9, 2019 8:53PM
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Wait, you mean this ?
    https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/sunspire-champion-senche-lion/
    Sunspire-Champion-Senche-Lion-Side.jpg?resize=1065%2C758
    Well then, good thing it is ugly. Not really a fan of flashing mounts. ;)
  • BaylorCorvette
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    There should be rewards for doing hard content. This is perfectly OK.
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  • burglar
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    It's good to have some content restricted behind progression, that way people can display things they earn as a badge of their hard work and what they've achieved. Ultimately, people tend to value their time spent in game more. You can see this throughout history, too, often times it's the games that execute this kind of progression properly that have the greatest longevity.
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  • soynegroyque
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    Mordors wrote: »
    As a human potato that hasn't even done all the bse game dungeons on vet, git gud.

    As a human organism that fails to even read something get lost.

    Lol you burned yourself m8
  • Strider__Roshin
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    They should lock more cosmetics behind this kind of content just to infuriate casuals more.
  • Grimlok_S
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    Fret not, whales! They'll sell a firecat with ice feet on the store a month after this releases.

    Example: Curator and Factotum polymorphs.
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  • ZeroXFF
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    This is a much better solution than hiding gear behind the hard mode. That way you can at least get access to gear that you need for progression before you've already completed the content.

    Also, not like you don't have ANY mount if you don't do this super hard content, so this is purely an aesthetical thing. If you won an Olympics medal you wouldn't say that everyone should get one for getting 5th place in a school competition just because they "haven't had the time to train as much", even though you know that they would love to look cool when they show them off.

    So yeah, it's fine to have a few trophies for excellence rather than participation, especially if they give those who have it no gameplay advantage.
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