WW timer is super annoying, especially in like... AA when you have to wait for everyone to stop running around wildly and get on the damn pads.

So it should be the only ultimate in the game that doesn't have any form of resource management?

brandonv516 wrote: »

Make the timer a part of Battle Spirit.

Done.

Would be a good solution.

As a ww for a long time, during bad times balance wise and also good times . (for example: bonus time when getting incoming dmg instead of dealing dmg..., no res, no syn.,... BUT ALSO rele+ravag )
--> my 2 dog treats:

• NO Ulti regen or transformation timer is pretty stupid in pve content. As a WW you get punished for ressing ppl or playing mechanics/movement ... you will loose time, and only way to get it back is jumping around for extra seconds.... (running way > jump > running away > jump, .....)
• Right now, it is not very useful to transform into a ww during pve trials/content. Maybe solo, but not in 12ppl content. DPS is higher if you do not transform (and also your flexibility with movement/skills -> you dont want a transformation back to human form during your last second when ressurecting a teammate or during some painful boss mechanics -> for example manticore popcorn ). So you get zero use from it, vampires have their passives, all the time, but no cool transform and can control the impact with bloody mara drink.

Solution:
You don't lose time without character movement and get bonus time when ressurection another player -> no impact on pvp, no need for high quality programming skills.
You reduce some of the ww dmg -> impact on pvp. BUT AND THATS IMPORTANT to not cripple it any further for pve content --> Add some unique ww slayer buff for pve -> with this one buff, you can do finetuning between pve and pvp. Has also ZERO IMPACT on PvP/BG because it will only work in dungeons and trials

tim99 wrote: »

yeah, you cant really complete any dungeon because a boss is walking in too slowly or talking so much aso.
and you also have to rush and sprint, cant care about tank (let him go first and spot things) because you just loose time.
if there is a door, you have lost anyway. In open world you cant use shrines or teleport, so if you wanna do the bosses of a map, you have to walk everything, all the time check for mobs or painfully reload ulti between.
The time is really too hard (just speaking for pve).
Not loosing ww-time while not moving at all could be a great thing. So the bosses in dungeons can talk an hour how great they are, and you dont care at all.

Agree with this. If they don't want banks full of WW then maybe tie it in to the justice system like some of the new Necro skills.

Ok, so people are worried about PvP... I can understand that. I dont know why exactly, but then again, I am not a big PvP player, and when I do PvP, its with my healer in Cyrodill and I never had even one experience that would make me think that werewolves are even close to be any kind of problem in PvP. Actually, I never saw many of them, and if I did, I cant really remember them doing anything worthwhile.

So, how about only making Werewolf infinite in PvE Areas? Since we already know that they can make Areas where your timer doesnt go down its clearly possible from a technical standpoint. Just use the same code you use for the area around the werewolf shrine for all PvE Areas.

To Avoid people trolling around and blocking cities with Packt Leader Wolves, make being in Werewolf form a criminal act in cities. That would actually make sense too.


Or, alternative, allow us to build up Ultimate while in Werewolf form.

No other Ultimate stops you from building up your Ultimate Ressource. That would be one simple change that would solve all the problems a Werewolf has with his downtime. Having to farm 300 Ultimate in Human Form is really a pain when you want to play as a werewolf...

Qbiken wrote: »

Staying in WW-form regardless of PvE or PvP is a L2P issue.

Oh wise gamer god, who gave me the wisdom of "Git Gud"....

I have no problem staying in WW Form if I decide to ignore literally all content beside "FIGHT FEED FIGHT FEED FIGHT FEED!" and if you had taken the time to actually READ my post, you would have noticed that.

But I guess the desire to just say "L2P" is just too big...

Qbiken wrote: »

mann9753b16_ESO wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

I just don't consider reading ingame conversations with NPC´s and reading lorebooks as a werewolf has higher priority over combat balance.

+ The devs have stated that if you want to stay in ww form, you need to stay in combat doing so.

So basically, if you have any interest in the lore of the game, dont play a Werewolf?

The short answer is yes

This picture is a screenshot from the werewolf class-rep discord and a response from one of the class-reps to the subject about allowing permanent werewolf form

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Devs can change their mind.

I mean, lets be real here for a moment, just taking PvE into account, would there be ANY drawback from perma Werewolf? (And yes, it can be done, since we already have areas where you are permawolf, putting this effect on all PvE Areas while leaving PvP Areas untouched is possible)

I cant think of only one thing that would be problematic with that, and that would be Pact Leaders blocking vendors and stuff, which would be easy to fix by making being a Werewolf in cities a criminal act. (Plus, Wardens could do the same and aint doing it so... maybe give the community a little credit here, as far as I saw, most are nice people).

I really dont understand why people are against this.

At least in my eyes, this is what would happen when they make werewolf permanent in pve areas:

1. People who like to roleplay as Werewolfs are happy. They can now be a werewolf when they want and actually do dungeons while not missing the story.
2. Non Werewolf PvE casuals dont care. Nothing changed for them.
3. Casual raiders are happy, because they can now Raid as Werewolfs, even when a boss needs to be explained.
4. Hardcore Raiders dont care, Werewolf is still useless to them.
5. PvP people dont care, nothing changed for them.

There is no downside here...

Linaleah wrote: »

suggestion of a compromise. werewolf timer pauses as long as you are in a conversation with an npc - and resumes the moment you exit out of conversation window.

this way you CAN take a moment to listen to dialogue, while it also preserves the "you can outkite a werewolf, until they lose their form in pvp" functionality

If it would also pause during scripted events, I would be 100% fine with that.
But honestly, just make all PvE zones Permawolf zones would be way easier and less risky for bugs etc...