Brilliant. This would also trash Negate again. FYI, silences (well, Negate actually because it’s the only source of a silence so far) were breakable like CCs in the past. It was reverted because nobody used Negate any longer. StamSorcs in particular would be robbed of what little identity they have left for group play.

I guess I just assumed if it cost stamina to break free of a silence which is aimed at casters, then casters wouldn’t really even feel much affect from it and breaking free of it it wouldn’t really require any strategic thinking. They would just do it every time.

I guess we’ll see what the devs have in store.

Nope, no counters. This mechanic needs to go before it ever hits live

Chiefwilliams wrote: »

I’m a NB main and even though the new incap is in my favor I see it not lasting long without some sort of counter. So if it hasn’t been proposed already.

Why not just allow break free to cost a large % of magicka when used while silence like it does with stam on stun. That way you can start using spells again but would only have enough magicka to cast 1 or 2 spells at least to escape? Maybe even give 3 Seconds of immunity to silence afterwards

Just a thought

Sneak peek of next week's patch notes:
Incapacitating Strike:
This ability no longer silences the enemy for 3 seconds when cast with 120 ultimate. We also removed the 20% damage done from this ability to bring it in line with other skills such as light attacks and added a 5 second cast time to this ability.

Developer Note:
We want to retain the stealthy assassin like nature of the nightblade but don't want anyone's feelies hurt.

I like this idea. This does, however, put Negate at risk of having it's silence broken this way if the change is applied to all silences.

The idea I came up with is have incap spawn a beam between you and the enemy hit (assuming you had 120 ult, of course). The beam silences the target for the duration but can be broken if the target moves X meters away from the caster. I was thinking the distance to be melee range so breaking after 5m or so. Obviously, the main problem would come from this being taxing on stamina. A roll dodge could take you far enough to break it only for you to immediately be feared (similar to magDk using talons into petrify). Of course, talons does not prevent you from healing. So there is still that to consider.

I main a stamblade, and I can tell you with 100% certainty this is too powerful as is. Admittedly, I do actually like the idea behind this. Giving NB the assassin feeling the devs are going for. But NO counter play? Come on now. Surely SOMEONE had to know this was not going to work. On the bright side, @ZOS_BrianWheeler has already stated they are investigating counterplay options for the new silence. This is good to hear, and I am excited to see what they come up with.

The_Lex wrote: »

They said "they're looking into counterplay," meaning they have no effing idea what they're doing. How do you implement incap silence (which currently has little, if any, real counterplay options for a light armor mag class), and not have already thought about said counterplay?

I wondered about this as well, and came up with the following. The devs, like most power PVP players, main Sorcs or NBs and therefore have oriented their thinking around how each balances and affects the other. Everything else, DK, Stamdens, and Templars are all just inconsequential lumps meleeing about, with Magdens as traffic cones and road kill.

No counter. Just remove it. Super simple. It opens up a whole new can of worms that they will also screw up.

I also think this is a shock tactic used to show “aye it could be worse”