Stamina Necro sustain..

Xogath · May 2019

Specifically, Orcs and blue (Stam/Health) food. Has anyone tried this route and can comment on their sustain with it?

I've finally gotten the hang of my StamDK's sustain with such a route, but Necro sustain as a whole looks quite a bit better and I was curious if their passives are enough to keep them going (with typical potion chugging, of course) without having to slot regen everywhere.. or at all.

Thoughts?

Edit: note that I do know there's at least one more pass on the PTS before the early access, but in its current iteration?

xMovingTarget · May 2019

You cant sustain it with bluefood and orc. Stam necro drains stamina like nothing. Alao you can't test it properly with the passive that reduces resource cost of blastbones etc. That passive atm bugs out animations. And without it, sustain is a yikes. With orc and lava soup

Olupajmibanan · May 2019

Been doing some tests as Bow/Bow necro.

Orc
Artaeum Takeaway Broth
Absorb Stamina enchant front bar
100% uptime Mortal Coil

Since Shadow Silk is now a very potent synergy in terms of group DPS, StamDDs will most likely have to fit Shadow Silk in their rotation. My guildmates found that by dropping Rearming Trap (in exchange for Shadow Silk) and switching Advancing Yokeda into Tzogwin, your rotation will be the same and DPS loss will be minimal. But group DPS will be NOTICEABLY higher, especially with petsorcs present.

What I wanted to say, I made my Stamnecro bow/bow rotation with Shadow Silk included. It's rather costy ability so I had to tune my sustain, that's why I run both, ATB and Absorb Stamina. I feel like with excellent group support, it's possible to drop either Absorb Stamina or ATB, but certainly not both.

NyassaV · May 2019

In the immortal words of Wrobel: Do more heavy attacks

Vercingetorix · May 2019

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

Been doing some tests as Bow/Bow necro.

Orc
Artaeum Takeaway Broth
Absorb Stamina enchant front bar
100% uptime Mortal Coil

Since Shadow Silk is now a very potent synergy in terms of group DPS, StamDDs will most likely have to fit Shadow Silk in their rotation. My guildmates found that by dropping Rearming Trap (in exchange for Shadow Silk) and switching Advancing Yokeda into Tzogwin, your rotation will be the same and DPS loss will be minimal. But group DPS will be NOTICEABLY higher, especially with petsorcs present.

What I wanted to say, I made my Stamnecro bow/bow rotation with Shadow Silk included. It's rather costy ability so I had to tune my sustain, that's why I run both, ATB and Absorb Stamina. I feel like with excellent group support, it's possible to drop either Absorb Stamina or ATB, but certainly not both.

Any class that is essentially "required" to use an expensive food consumable only to gain marginal sustain for Trials needs to be re-examined by ZoS.

Xarc · May 2019

What selfheal are you guys using ? (just ot know)

Olupajmibanan · May 2019

Vercingetorix wrote: »

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

Been doing some tests as Bow/Bow necro.

Orc
Artaeum Takeaway Broth
Absorb Stamina enchant front bar
100% uptime Mortal Coil

Since Shadow Silk is now a very potent synergy in terms of group DPS, StamDDs will most likely have to fit Shadow Silk in their rotation. My guildmates found that by dropping Rearming Trap (in exchange for Shadow Silk) and switching Advancing Yokeda into Tzogwin, your rotation will be the same and DPS loss will be minimal. But group DPS will be NOTICEABLY higher, especially with petsorcs present.

What I wanted to say, I made my Stamnecro bow/bow rotation with Shadow Silk included. It's rather costy ability so I had to tune my sustain, that's why I run both, ATB and Absorb Stamina. I feel like with excellent group support, it's possible to drop either Absorb Stamina or ATB, but certainly not both.

Any class that is essentially "required" to use an expensive food consumable only to gain marginal sustain for Trials needs to be re-examined by ZoS.

You can run inexpensive Dubious Camoran Throne instead of ATB and be just fine, lol

Based on your implication, magDK and 2x inferno magsorc need to be looked at firstly. Their situation is much worse than that of a Necro.

acw37162 · May 2019

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

Been doing some tests as Bow/Bow necro.

Orc
Artaeum Takeaway Broth
Absorb Stamina enchant front bar
100% uptime Mortal Coil

Since Shadow Silk is now a very potent synergy in terms of group DPS, StamDDs will most likely have to fit Shadow Silk in their rotation. My guildmates found that by dropping Rearming Trap (in exchange for Shadow Silk) and switching Advancing Yokeda into Tzogwin, your rotation will be the same and DPS loss will be minimal. But group DPS will be NOTICEABLY higher, especially with petsorcs present.

What I wanted to say, I made my Stamnecro bow/bow rotation with Shadow Silk included. It's rather costy ability so I had to tune my sustain, that's why I run both, ATB and Absorb Stamina. I feel like with excellent group support, it's possible to drop either Absorb Stamina or ATB, but certainly not both.

Any class that is essentially "required" to use an expensive food consumable only to gain marginal sustain for Trials needs to be re-examined by ZoS.

You can run inexpensive Dubious Camoran Throne instead of ATB and be just fine, lol

Based on your implication, magDK and 2x inferno magsorc need to be looked at firstly. Their situation is much worse than that of a Necro.

Not for nothing the false gods devotion set will do wonders for Mag DK.
False Gods
Mothers Sorrow
Shadow

Xogath · May 2019

Thanks for the feedback, folks! Very insightful.

I'd planned on running 2H/Bow on my Stamcro and was curious if such a build would work sustain-wise with the return passives and good Skeletal Archer uptime.

If not, being Orc and using a lesser-value-but-also-regen food would be the way to go I suppose.