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Sword and board nerfs long overdue
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The Uninvited✭✭✭✭✭
✭The Uninvited wrote: »The Uninvited wrote: »
The sets are fine. Heavy Armor Passives have already been nerfed, and they aren't very strong compared to Medium and Light passives.
So, you know what specific sets I was thinking about?
Fury
7th
Ravager
Veiled
etc
Those are some of the sets that are popular to complain about for being too strong. I would imagine those are the sets that you are thinking about. Sure you can pull a "You're wrong, I was thinking about... Shalk!" but we both know that isn't true.
You could have stopped after the first 2 sets. Ravager and Veiled are fine, the 7th/Fury combo imo is not.Pandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
Ride the paranoia | All life is pain | Only the grave is real0 -
Sleep724✭✭✭✭✭I can’t beat certain play styles so they should be nerfed and the skill line should be gutted of any usefulness and uniqueness. There should only be a couple different ways of playing pvp. We must encourage our ZOS overlords to use the power they wield to discourage and nerf what I feel is OP.
Then and only then will we have balance.3 -
Ashtaris✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This has got to be a troll post from the OP. I can't believe anyone could really be serious about this.
Edited by Ashtaris on May 6, 2019 4:54AM4 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This has got to be a troll post from the OP. I can't believe anyone could really be serious about this.
I cant believe that you all deny how powerful SnB is when you take in consideration that so far:
LA/insert ability/Bash outperforms Flurry and Uppercut
Maj Defile, +Fracture, Breach(or minor resolve), Minor Maim, Heroism, Snare
Gap Closer
2 CC build in useful skills
all while having the best blocking.
True pressure on a target while applying a ton of debuffs and gaining buffs.
It's ultimate is the best backbar ulty, no need to give it a second thought. For such a low cost. I wish Corrosive armor had such a low cost.
There isnt a single ability in it's toolkit that cannot cover the needs of all stamina builds.
This is coming from a stamDK.
As for the PvE arguments.... as if SnB will become useless in PvE if it is adjusted for PvP.... as if somebody uses SnB for dps...
There is no arrogance in dismissing PvE conserns. Just common sense. Resistance to a discussion about SnB while bringing in PvE vs PvP mentality to it shows intolorance, bitternes and aggresion.
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Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »This has got to be a troll post from the OP. I can't believe anyone could really be serious about this.
I cant believe that you all deny how powerful SnB is when you take in consideration that so far:
LA/insert ability/Bash outperforms Flurry and Uppercut
Maj Defile, +Fracture, Breach(or minor resolve), Minor Maim, Heroism, Snare
Gap Closer
2 CC build in useful skills
all while having the best blocking.
True pressure on a target while applying a ton of debuffs and gaining buffs.
It's ultimate is the best backbar ulty, no need to give it a second thought. For such a low cost. I wish Corrosive armor had such a low cost.
There isnt a single ability in it's toolkit that cannot cover the needs of all stamina builds.
This is coming from a stamDK.
As for the PvE arguments.... as if SnB will become useless in PvE if it is adjusted for PvP.... as if somebody uses SnB for dps...
There is no arrogance in dismissing PvE conserns. Just common sense. Resistance to a discussion about SnB while bringing in PvE vs PvP mentality to it shows intolorance, bitternes and aggresion.
Bash cancelling is not that easy tough, also it completely stops your stamina regen. It is a very expensive playstyle therefore, which somehow sounds reasonable.
Cant believe a stamdk complains about corrosive, which is declared as cheese in the dueling scene and a very very strong ultimate in pvp, allowing being very offensive, having 100% penetration and you almost do not have to worry about taking damage (just keep your vigors up and your health bar wont move downwards).2 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »This has got to be a troll post from the OP. I can't believe anyone could really be serious about this.
I cant believe that you all deny how powerful SnB is when you take in consideration that so far:
LA/insert ability/Bash outperforms Flurry and Uppercut
Maj Defile, +Fracture, Breach(or minor resolve), Minor Maim, Heroism, Snare
Gap Closer
2 CC build in useful skills
all while having the best blocking.
True pressure on a target while applying a ton of debuffs and gaining buffs.
It's ultimate is the best backbar ulty, no need to give it a second thought. For such a low cost. I wish Corrosive armor had such a low cost.
There isnt a single ability in it's toolkit that cannot cover the needs of all stamina builds.
This is coming from a stamDK.
As for the PvE arguments.... as if SnB will become useless in PvE if it is adjusted for PvP.... as if somebody uses SnB for dps...
There is no arrogance in dismissing PvE conserns. Just common sense. Resistance to a discussion about SnB while bringing in PvE vs PvP mentality to it shows intolorance, bitternes and aggresion.
Bash cancelling is not that easy tough, also it completely stops your stamina regen. It is a very expensive playstyle therefore, which somehow sounds reasonable.
Cant believe a stamdk complains about corrosive, which is declared as cheese in the dueling scene and a very very strong ultimate in pvp, allowing being very offensive, having 100% penetration and you almost do not have to worry about taking damage (just keep your vigors up and your health bar wont move downwards).
If you time the bash correctly you can still get the regen tick, there's even an addon than shows you when the regen tick occurs so you can time it more properly.
I do to a certain degree agree that SnB skilline offers a bit too much offensive pressure, but knowing how ZOS would balance things I'm ok with how things are atm.2 -
Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »This has got to be a troll post from the OP. I can't believe anyone could really be serious about this.
I cant believe that you all deny how powerful SnB is when you take in consideration that so far:
LA/insert ability/Bash outperforms Flurry and Uppercut
Maj Defile, +Fracture, Breach(or minor resolve), Minor Maim, Heroism, Snare
Gap Closer
2 CC build in useful skills
all while having the best blocking.
True pressure on a target while applying a ton of debuffs and gaining buffs.
It's ultimate is the best backbar ulty, no need to give it a second thought. For such a low cost. I wish Corrosive armor had such a low cost.
There isnt a single ability in it's toolkit that cannot cover the needs of all stamina builds.
This is coming from a stamDK.
As for the PvE arguments.... as if SnB will become useless in PvE if it is adjusted for PvP.... as if somebody uses SnB for dps...
There is no arrogance in dismissing PvE conserns. Just common sense. Resistance to a discussion about SnB while bringing in PvE vs PvP mentality to it shows intolorance, bitternes and aggresion.
Bash cancelling is not that easy tough, also it completely stops your stamina regen. It is a very expensive playstyle therefore, which somehow sounds reasonable.
Cant believe a stamdk complains about corrosive, which is declared as cheese in the dueling scene and a very very strong ultimate in pvp, allowing being very offensive, having 100% penetration and you almost do not have to worry about taking damage (just keep your vigors up and your health bar wont move downwards).
If you time the bash correctly you can still get the regen tick, there's even an addon than shows you when the regen tick occurs so you can time it more properly.
I do to a certain degree agree that SnB skilline offers a bit too much offensive pressure, but knowing how ZOS would balance things I'm ok with how things are atm.
Just adding, that on console for example is bash cancelling almost impossible due to the key combinations you need to do. This is one reason stamina toons do not perform there as well as on PC.4 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »This has got to be a troll post from the OP. I can't believe anyone could really be serious about this.
I cant believe that you all deny how powerful SnB is when you take in consideration that so far:
LA/insert ability/Bash outperforms Flurry and Uppercut
Maj Defile, +Fracture, Breach(or minor resolve), Minor Maim, Heroism, Snare
Gap Closer
2 CC build in useful skills
all while having the best blocking.
True pressure on a target while applying a ton of debuffs and gaining buffs.
It's ultimate is the best backbar ulty, no need to give it a second thought. For such a low cost. I wish Corrosive armor had such a low cost.
There isnt a single ability in it's toolkit that cannot cover the needs of all stamina builds.
This is coming from a stamDK.
As for the PvE arguments.... as if SnB will become useless in PvE if it is adjusted for PvP.... as if somebody uses SnB for dps...
There is no arrogance in dismissing PvE conserns. Just common sense. Resistance to a discussion about SnB while bringing in PvE vs PvP mentality to it shows intolorance, bitternes and aggresion.
I agree, but the real arrogance comes from using S&B, Fury and Seventh legion and then going around about how awesome they are.
Seriously, all the posts from people who talk like their ‘skill’ is so high and call others potatoes are ridiculous. They’ll also be the first to rush to defend S&B in this thread.
Major defile is in spammable form while it’s being removed from other abilities in the game. S&B will end up being the best stamina offensive weapon.Edited by Iskiab on May 6, 2019 11:39AMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten1 -
DarkerDreams✭✭✭imredneckson wrote: »TheRealPotoroo wrote: »Blocking costs stamina and I presume you're talking about PVP, in which case leave your nonsense out of PVE where sword and board tanks have suffered bitterly already because of PVP 'balancing'.
^ Dudes right. We PvP players have destroyed much of the game for the PvE community like regening stamina while blocking, heavy attacks with bows, crits with proc sets, and Camo Hunter to name only a few.
No! I really hate every time I see one of these statements. PvP players did not ruin anything for PvE, just as PvE didn't ruin anything for PvP. What ruined it is ZOS not separating the two and trying to "balance" every thing together. (( Of course 'balance' is really code for lets keep moving the bar on purpose without ever really balancing anything ))1 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »This has got to be a troll post from the OP. I can't believe anyone could really be serious about this.
I cant believe that you all deny how powerful SnB is when you take in consideration that so far:
LA/insert ability/Bash outperforms Flurry and Uppercut
Maj Defile, +Fracture, Breach(or minor resolve), Minor Maim, Heroism, Snare
Gap Closer
2 CC build in useful skills
all while having the best blocking.
True pressure on a target while applying a ton of debuffs and gaining buffs.
It's ultimate is the best backbar ulty, no need to give it a second thought. For such a low cost. I wish Corrosive armor had such a low cost.
There isnt a single ability in it's toolkit that cannot cover the needs of all stamina builds.
This is coming from a stamDK.
As for the PvE arguments.... as if SnB will become useless in PvE if it is adjusted for PvP.... as if somebody uses SnB for dps...
There is no arrogance in dismissing PvE conserns. Just common sense. Resistance to a discussion about SnB while bringing in PvE vs PvP mentality to it shows intolorance, bitternes and aggresion.
I agree, but the real arrogance comes from using S&B, Fury and Seventh legion and then going around about how awesome they are.
Seriously, all the posts from people who talk like their ‘skill’ is so high and call others potatoes are ridiculous. They’ll also be the first to rush to defend S&B in this thread.
A lot of wpn damage doesn’t make anyone good. A good player will use it well a bad player will still suck. Wearing 7th and Fury with SB can’t carry you.6 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »This has got to be a troll post from the OP. I can't believe anyone could really be serious about this.
I cant believe that you all deny how powerful SnB is when you take in consideration that so far:
LA/insert ability/Bash outperforms Flurry and Uppercut
Maj Defile, +Fracture, Breach(or minor resolve), Minor Maim, Heroism, Snare
Gap Closer
2 CC build in useful skills
all while having the best blocking.
True pressure on a target while applying a ton of debuffs and gaining buffs.
It's ultimate is the best backbar ulty, no need to give it a second thought. For such a low cost. I wish Corrosive armor had such a low cost.
There isnt a single ability in it's toolkit that cannot cover the needs of all stamina builds.
This is coming from a stamDK.
As for the PvE arguments.... as if SnB will become useless in PvE if it is adjusted for PvP.... as if somebody uses SnB for dps...
There is no arrogance in dismissing PvE conserns. Just common sense. Resistance to a discussion about SnB while bringing in PvE vs PvP mentality to it shows intolorance, bitternes and aggresion.
I agree, but the real arrogance comes from using S&B, Fury and Seventh legion and then going around about how awesome they are.
Seriously, all the posts from people who talk like their ‘skill’ is so high and call others potatoes are ridiculous. They’ll also be the first to rush to defend S&B in this thread.
A lot of wpn damage doesn’t make anyone good. A good player will use it well a bad player will still suck. Wearing 7th and Fury with SB can’t carry you.
It doesn’t make someone bad too, it just makes someone better.
Seriously, can you see any stamina build not using S&B as one of their weapons post patch? I see 0 reason not to, that’s called overperforming.
Even stamblade gankers will start using it I imagine. Where else would they get major defile from, in spammable form no less.Edited by Iskiab on May 6, 2019 11:47AMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten1 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »This has got to be a troll post from the OP. I can't believe anyone could really be serious about this.
I cant believe that you all deny how powerful SnB is when you take in consideration that so far:
LA/insert ability/Bash outperforms Flurry and Uppercut
Maj Defile, +Fracture, Breach(or minor resolve), Minor Maim, Heroism, Snare
Gap Closer
2 CC build in useful skills
all while having the best blocking.
True pressure on a target while applying a ton of debuffs and gaining buffs.
It's ultimate is the best backbar ulty, no need to give it a second thought. For such a low cost. I wish Corrosive armor had such a low cost.
There isnt a single ability in it's toolkit that cannot cover the needs of all stamina builds.
This is coming from a stamDK.
As for the PvE arguments.... as if SnB will become useless in PvE if it is adjusted for PvP.... as if somebody uses SnB for dps...
There is no arrogance in dismissing PvE conserns. Just common sense. Resistance to a discussion about SnB while bringing in PvE vs PvP mentality to it shows intolorance, bitternes and aggresion.
I agree, but the real arrogance comes from using S&B, Fury and Seventh legion and then going around about how awesome they are.
Seriously, all the posts from people who talk like their ‘skill’ is so high and call others potatoes are ridiculous. They’ll also be the first to rush to defend S&B in this thread.
A lot of wpn damage doesn’t make anyone good. A good player will use it well a bad player will still suck. Wearing 7th and Fury with SB can’t carry you.
It doesn’t make someone bad too, it just makes someone better.
Seriously, can you see any stamina build not using S&B as one of their weapons post patch? I see 0 reason not to, that’s called overperforming.
Even stamblade gankers will start using it I imagine. Where else would they get major defile from, in spammable form no less.
I won’t be using it on my Stamplar. I think you’re exaggerating. SB lacks an execute, it lacks dots, the gap closer is horrible and only used by noobs and zergs. Heroic is good and so is reverb but so what? The 2h has way better passives offensively as does DW and 2H has a great execute and DW has good dots, spin to win and makes all its attacks into pseudo executes. I seriously doubt everyone will be switching to SB. Imo it’s pretty well balanced. Dizzy swing could use some work to bring the 2H back on par with SB and DW but that’s another discussion.6 -
thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »
I remember when PvPers cried about monster helms critting, proc sets critting, how hard it was to get monster helms, how hard it is to get undaunted, how hard it is to get skill points..... Just saying
What about all the PvEers complaining about having to PvP to get vigor or caltrops? Or all the PvEers complaining about getting killed by questing. ZoS also stated that proc sets were nerfed because they were providing to much DPS in PvE.3 -
mague✭✭✭✭✭
S&B itself is not the problem.
But S&B combined with class skills AND combined with macros is a pain. It tears through anything, literally in a second, while you cant scratch them.2 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »This has got to be a troll post from the OP. I can't believe anyone could really be serious about this.
I cant believe that you all deny how powerful SnB is when you take in consideration that so far:
LA/insert ability/Bash outperforms Flurry and Uppercut
Maj Defile, +Fracture, Breach(or minor resolve), Minor Maim, Heroism, Snare
Gap Closer
2 CC build in useful skills
all while having the best blocking.
True pressure on a target while applying a ton of debuffs and gaining buffs.
It's ultimate is the best backbar ulty, no need to give it a second thought. For such a low cost. I wish Corrosive armor had such a low cost.
There isnt a single ability in it's toolkit that cannot cover the needs of all stamina builds.
This is coming from a stamDK.
As for the PvE arguments.... as if SnB will become useless in PvE if it is adjusted for PvP.... as if somebody uses SnB for dps...
There is no arrogance in dismissing PvE conserns. Just common sense. Resistance to a discussion about SnB while bringing in PvE vs PvP mentality to it shows intolorance, bitternes and aggresion.
I agree, but the real arrogance comes from using S&B, Fury and Seventh legion and then going around about how awesome they are.
Seriously, all the posts from people who talk like their ‘skill’ is so high and call others potatoes are ridiculous. They’ll also be the first to rush to defend S&B in this thread.
Major defile is in spammable form while it’s being removed from other abilities in the game. S&B will end up being the best stamina offensive weapon.
I wish for 7th fury to be removed from the game and see if the ppl that bash dks now will agree that the class needs improvements0 -
Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The Uninvited wrote: »The Uninvited wrote: »The Uninvited wrote: »
The sets are fine. Heavy Armor Passives have already been nerfed, and they aren't very strong compared to Medium and Light passives.
So, you know what specific sets I was thinking about?
Fury
7th
Ravager
Veiled
etc
Those are some of the sets that are popular to complain about for being too strong. I would imagine those are the sets that you are thinking about. Sure you can pull a "You're wrong, I was thinking about... Shalk!" but we both know that isn't true.
You could have stopped after the first 2 sets. Ravager and Veiled are fine, the 7th/Fury combo imo is not.
Ravager? A set that only 1 class can effectively use + demands to deal damage is fine while a set that demands to get critted 25 times is not? Why? Because if grants ~100 more wpn dmg?GeorgeBlack wrote: »This has got to be a troll post from the OP. I can't believe anyone could really be serious about this.
I cant believe that you all deny how powerful SnB is when you take in consideration that so far:
LA/insert ability/Bash outperforms Flurry and Uppercut
Maj Defile, +Fracture, Breach(or minor resolve), Minor Maim, Heroism, Snare
Gap Closer
2 CC build in useful skills
all while having the best blocking.
True pressure on a target while applying a ton of debuffs and gaining buffs.
It's ultimate is the best backbar ulty, no need to give it a second thought. For such a low cost. I wish Corrosive armor had such a low cost.
There isnt a single ability in it's toolkit that cannot cover the needs of all stamina builds.
This is coming from a stamDK.
As for the PvE arguments.... as if SnB will become useless in PvE if it is adjusted for PvP.... as if somebody uses SnB for dps...
There is no arrogance in dismissing PvE conserns. Just common sense. Resistance to a discussion about SnB while bringing in PvE vs PvP mentality to it shows intolorance, bitternes and aggresion.
I agree, but the real arrogance comes from using S&B, Fury and Seventh legion and then going around about how awesome they are.
Seriously, all the posts from people who talk like their ‘skill’ is so high and call others potatoes are ridiculous. They’ll also be the first to rush to defend S&B in this thread.
A lot of wpn damage doesn’t make anyone good. A good player will use it well a bad player will still suck. Wearing 7th and Fury with SB can’t carry you.
It doesn’t make someone bad too, it just makes someone better.
Better than compared to playing without any sets? Fury at least demands to know how to compensate damage and doesn't let you gank someone from the dark. An unskilled player trying to stack Fury will easily explode or let the buff drop off.1 -
Fawn4287✭✭✭✭✭
✭All you need to see is that it is used by nearly every pvp build including stamina and magica toons, the ratio of sword and board to alternative back bar options like resto staff and bow users among good pvp players is 10 to 1. There is literally no better backbar weapon in the game, nothing in the game offers anywhere near the same utility as well as low resource cost to damage mitigation as sword and board, and to top it off most people lack a non blockable CC to appropriately combo against this playstyle anyway . There really needs to be a dodge roll like fatigue that occurs within pvp zones such as an increase in cost based on the number of concurrent attacks blocked or the time someone is blocking for in order to reduce its defensive effectiveness as well as remove major breach/fracture and defile to bring it in to like with other weapons.2 -
Demra✭✭✭All you need to see is that it is used by nearly every pvp build including stamina and magica toons, the ratio of sword and board to alternative back bar options like resto staff and bow users among good pvp players is 10 to 1. There is literally no better backbar weapon in the game, nothing in the game offers anywhere near the same utility as well as low resource cost to damage mitigation as sword and board, and to top it off most people lack a non blockable CC to appropriately combo against this playstyle anyway . There really needs to be a dodge roll like fatigue that occurs within pvp zones such as an increase in cost based on the number of concurrent attacks blocked or the time someone is blocking for in order to reduce its defensive effectiveness as well as remove major breach/fracture and defile to bring it in to like with other weapons.
That observation of ratio 10 to 1 of ppl using snb seems faulty to me. I find other weapons much more common among any players in no cp cyrodiil and bgs. While 2h definitely needs some buff i dont think dw, staff or bow are in anyway less effective than snb. Maybe its because i play no cp and you don't, i am not sure but at any case i think snb is fine and if you think other weapons are under performing i think its better to focus on buffing them than gutting this weapon. Stop the nerfs please. So many nerfs lately.3 -
Stx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If you build for defense then your offense is going to be weak. There is no magic build with s/b that slaughters everyone. S/b is fine, it does exactly what it's supposed to do.
Blocking costs a ton of stamina if you do it consistently, and if you build for block cost reduction, you are giving up crit resist or a major source of weapon damage. It's a balanced choice you have to make when building your character.1 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭TheRealPotoroo wrote: »Blocking costs stamina and I presume you're talking about PVP, in which case leave your nonsense out of PVE where sword and board tanks have suffered bitterly already because of PVP 'balancing'.
Yes because PvE is so difficult in this game lol
Screenshot of your Unchained title please?
Please don’t turn this into a PvP vs PvE thread with rubbish like that. There’s enough of those threads already. Sick of this divided and bitter community.
I did veteran Black Rose Prison once, got my bow on the first try and didn't have a need to return. Wasn't a perfect run, but it was pretty fun. I'm a PvPer not a PvEer; I could care less about those titles. The only reason why I have Flawless Conquerer was because I got it while trying to get a Maelstrom 2H with sharpened back when it had 189 WD attached to it. Oh and I was wearing all impen PvP armor at the time when I got it too.
But yeah I don't play this game for its PvE because honestly it isn't very intellectually stimulating. There are games out there with enjoyable PvE like Sekiro and Monster Hunter. ESO just isn't one of them and I find it comical when people whine about the possibility that PvE might become more difficult for them due to a PvP related nerf.
What an arrogant way to look at it. I get that some people like PvP over PvE but to dismiss it completely as a challenge and turn your nose up and look down upon people who enjoy it is frankly ignorant and rude.
Congrats on your Blackrose complete and Vet Maelstrom run, if that indeed happened.
Anyway, you do you buddy.
Okay? Well I appreciate it, although the bow honestly wasn't really worth it unfortunately. I still prefer the Master's bow.
Have you played Monster Hunter or Sekiro? Honestly I'm not anti-PvE I just like PvE that has NPCs that act aggressive and alive/unpredictable. This game is mainly about mechanics and rotation. If the NPCs in this game did more than just sit there and eat damage I may find it more entertaining. They're honestly just glorified target dummies that just spam light attacks and occasionally you'll have to dodge/block a 1-shot which the game makes incredibly obvious.
Do you think I'm wrong?1 -
IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭Hi stamsorc main.
Leave the only good spammable and pressure ability left to stamsorcs alone thx.
Its hard enough fighting without a proper spammable and delayed burst ability
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Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.2 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭snb did get a nerf; befoul reduction and the 1h enchants.
Only thing that needs review is that potentially block based mitigation sources are now additive with each other instead of multiplicative. But @paulsimonps is still testing on PTS if this is correct or not.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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- Filthy Casual2 -
HalvarIronfist✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »Lets just nerf everything into the ground and go round hitting each other with pillows
Pillows OP pls nerf1 -
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✭✭✭I don’t play any stamina toons so I don’t know how it would effect each class, but post patch I think every stamina class will be sword and board plus x weapon.
Heck, even Stamblades... sword and board is the best place to get major defile.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten1 -
Ramber✭✭✭✭The Uninvited wrote: »The Uninvited wrote: »The Uninvited wrote: »
The sets are fine. Heavy Armor Passives have already been nerfed, and they aren't very strong compared to Medium and Light passives.
So, you know what specific sets I was thinking about?
Fury
7th
Ravager
Veiled
etc
Those are some of the sets that are popular to complain about for being too strong. I would imagine those are the sets that you are thinking about. Sure you can pull a "You're wrong, I was thinking about... Shalk!" but we both know that isn't true.
You could have stopped after the first 2 sets. Ravager and Veiled are fine, the 7th/Fury combo imo is not.
what makes them too strong? ive tried them, i dont get the effect others seem to get that cant be killed so something else is obviously at hand here.0 -
Ozazz✭✭✭✭Tanks have 100% ruined pvp, so leave your pve nonsense out of my pvp, remember shield nerfs, sustain nerfs etc the list goes on, pve kids have always *** up pvp which makes pvp near not playable anymore from a skill perspective. but they dont care they think the game should cater to them.3 -
Ozazz✭✭✭✭if your not killing in pvp and cant be killed or better yet have 30k health sword and board and over shadow my glass cannon build, or medium armor high damage nb or light armor sorc im sorry the game is busted. there should be more incentive to wear light armor and medium armor then wearing heavy and still out performing these dps rolls, and on top of that pair heavy with sword and board it breaks pvp , also pvp is over saturated with snares and aoe damage wonder whos fault that is
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