Maintenance for the week of April 6:
• [COMPLETE] ESO Store and Account System for maintenance – April 8, 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC) - 6:00PM EDT (22:00 UTC)

How can you justify this? Maintenance on a FRIDAY NIGHT?

  • babylon
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    Pretty sure this is scheduled because it's probably their lowest activity during the particular day.

    Some people will always get screwed. That's just how it is. This has nothing to do of when it's the best time for you. They schedule (or try, anyway. Leniency is given in the first month-two months due to major issues that need to be addressed) their maintenance based around the lowest server activity (Such as the lowest amount of people that are usually on at a particular time.)

    It sucks, but tough. There's nothing you can do about it. Unfortunately, the minorities/alternative scheduled peoples that usually play around the time of maintenance only have the option to just deal with it.

    There's a difference between making a time that doesn't affect USA much and making a time that completely screws over a whole region.

    They need to shift maintenance times to take Oceanics into consideration.
  • valen741
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    MysticAura wrote: »
    So you (OP) think that they should change the time of maintenance to suit Australia and ignore the majority of players, so that you aren't inconvenienced?

    This one must defend the OP. If Mystic would check his timezones, he would realize Valen is in Guam timezone.

    lol Thanks mate but I just haven't looked at my profile settings yet *blushes*
    I'm in Australia :)
  • Smoop
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    Starting immediately, we have changed the regular maintenance times for The Elder Scrolls Online, based on player feedback.

    ummm..... I am a player, I was not asked for feedback.

    Here is my feedback that I was not even asked.

    DO NOT HAVE MAINTENANCE ON PRIME TIME FRIDAY NIGHT AUSTRALIAN TIME.

    Thank you.
  • jhs2splaceub17_ESO
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    wed would seem a better time for the maintenance then fridays. it accommodates almost every player
  • Ri_Dariit
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    This one has idea, yes? Go get rest and sleep, wake up early in morning and play on "fresh" server. Much more fun!
    Fusozay Var VarJaji kor nirni. Ri'Dariit ahnurr shir Gouranga an vasa rid-t'har.
  • daniel.computerguy26ub17_ESO
    valen741 wrote: »
    Lots of valid points and I do understand...But... There are 4 other non-peak days in the week. Why Friday of all nights? Surely there would be other options...

    Wow people, I'm extremely happy with the time they those, I live where it counts (USA East Coast) And to hear that they're supposedly fixing server issues just in time for me to finish my toast, pour another cup of coffee. Have my morning smoke. Call off work for the day. Then get ready to play the whole day and weekend issue free? That's perfect. absolutely no issue. They chose the perfect time.

    You Non-Americans have seen for the past 10 years company's cater to us. The USA.

    ZOS has done an amazing job with this game and with 61 million items in game. They have definitely worked their ass off, not for you to sit and complain. Be glad they even allow your country to play it!
    Edited by ZOS_LenaicR on April 11, 2014 1:25PM
  • Kyosji
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    Sethren wrote: »
    Instead of attacking each other over who is more "entitled" to a priority in consideration, why not talk about potential solutions?

    The Friday maintenance time is obviously the issue. Why not move it 2-3 hours? Say, Friday @11am EDT/12pm EDT? If 8am EDT is 10pm Oceanic time, then 11am/12pm for us would be 1am/2am in the morning Friday Night/Saturday Morning for the Oceanic players. Would that an acceptable compromise? Most players here in NA would be at work on a Friday at 11am, so it would not negatively effect the majority of NA players, and it would allow our Oceanic fellow-gamers to have their Friday nights of gaming. Seems like a win-win compromise to me.

    Unless schools out, then you killed it for a lot of others. Instead of a Friday, they should have it on Thursday. Thursday at 11AM EDT wouldn't effect many that I can think of.
  • awkwarrd
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    So... maintenance times were changed..

    Player feedback to a Friday?
    I doubt it.

    Friday, is basically the start of the weekend, after you get home from work.

    The Oceanics seem angry, and it looks they have a right to be, this is a dumb situation they are forced into.
    -you can see the frustration in some of the comments, and it's not made any easier when other people who are not oceanic are arguing with their feedback, kinda dumb, i hope those weren't the people the feedback was based on.

    The EU server's are currently based in US.
    But will be moved to EU at some point, so it's pointless to argue that an oceanic person should go play on there.
    I for one think Friday is another horrible day to put Maintenance on, i don't understand the decision.
    By "player feedback" do you mean:
    "we selected a different day at random because one of the other maintenance days was upsetting people"
  • SK1TZ0FR3N1K
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    Kyosji wrote: »
    I stopped reading this thread because of all the back and forth crying about minorities and the such. These maintenance times do not affect me in the least, but I will say, it is quite odd to have them on Tuesdays and Fridays. Most people have Fridays off over a Monday, and most people play sick at work on Fridays as well. The Monday/Thursday option would have been the ideal times for maintenance.

    Also, where did ZOE get their polling from? I was never asked what time was best for me, did you guys? I seriously doubt that WE told them Friday was a good day for maintenance.


    Better question! How many MMO's over the last 10 years didn't use Tuesday morning as a maintenance window for their NA server?
    Also, I don't think they actually need to call you up on your phone, and ask you that question...when all they have to do is look at server load throughout the day/week to determine the best time.
    Personal note...I see more people missing at work on Monday morning's than Friday morning's. Might be because we grill out every Friday...Texas thing I guess. No one wants to pass up getting fat on free food!

    “There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin’. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” -Will Rogers
  • sundan92rwb17_ESO
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    Kyosji wrote: »
    Sethren wrote: »
    Instead of attacking each other over who is more "entitled" to a priority in consideration, why not talk about potential solutions?

    The Friday maintenance time is obviously the issue. Why not move it 2-3 hours? Say, Friday @11am EDT/12pm EDT? If 8am EDT is 10pm Oceanic time, then 11am/12pm for us would be 1am/2am in the morning Friday Night/Saturday Morning for the Oceanic players. Would that an acceptable compromise? Most players here in NA would be at work on a Friday at 11am, so it would not negatively effect the majority of NA players, and it would allow our Oceanic fellow-gamers to have their Friday nights of gaming. Seems like a win-win compromise to me.

    Unless schools out, then you killed it for a lot of others. Instead of a Friday, they should have it on Thursday. Thursday at 11AM EDT wouldn't effect many that I can think of.

    That's what I suggested a page ago.

    Clearly we should poll/petition to have Friday maintenance moved to this time slot.
  • WhiteScythe
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    Sethren wrote: »
    Instead of attacking each other over who is more "entitled" to a priority in consideration, why not talk about potential solutions?

    The Friday maintenance time is obviously the issue. Why not move it 2-3 hours? Say, Friday @11am EDT/12pm EDT? If 8am EDT is 10pm Oceanic time, then 11am/12pm for us would be 1am/2am Friday Night/Saturday Morning for the Oceanic players. Would that be an acceptable compromise? Most players here in NA would be at work on a Friday at 11am/12pm EDT, so it would not negatively effect the majority of NA players, and it would allow our Oceanic fellow-gamers to have their Friday nights of gaming. Seems like a win-win compromise to me.

    You aren't exactly right or wrong however.. you have to understand that we've been climbing the same rope for many years and not with just ESO but other titles too.

    Our voice is never heard, such is life as an Aussie. :(

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  • valen741
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    valen741 wrote: »
    Lots of valid points and I do understand...But... There are 4 other non-peak days in the week. Why Friday of all nights? Surely there would be other options...

    Wow people, I'm extremely happy with the time they those, I live where it counts (USA East Coast) And to hear that they're supposedly fixing server issues just in time for me to finish my toast, pour another cup of coffee. Have my morning smoke. Call off work for the day. Then get ready to play the whole day and weekend issue free? That's perfect. absolutely no issue. They chose the perfect time.

    You Non-Americans have seen for the past 10 years company's cater to us. The USA. For any of you to still complain about this you need to grow up and maybe move out of the *** hole your in.

    ZOS has done an amazing job with this game and with 61 million items in game. They have definitely worked their ass off, not for you to sit and complain. Be glad they even allow your country to play it!

    Wow... just wow... are you seriously that pigheaded and small minded?
    'merica f**k yeah!
  • Hyperventilate
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    babylon wrote: »
    Pretty sure this is scheduled because it's probably their lowest activity during the particular day.

    Some people will always get screwed. That's just how it is. This has nothing to do of when it's the best time for you. They schedule (or try, anyway. Leniency is given in the first month-two months due to major issues that need to be addressed) their maintenance based around the lowest server activity (Such as the lowest amount of people that are usually on at a particular time.)

    It sucks, but tough. There's nothing you can do about it. Unfortunately, the minorities/alternative scheduled peoples that usually play around the time of maintenance only have the option to just deal with it.

    There's a difference between making a time that doesn't affect USA much and making a time that completely screws over a whole region.

    They need to shift maintenance times to take Oceanics into consideration.

    When you're the majority, you'll be considered. Blows, but that's how it works.
  • Basil_oz
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    And the hilarious thing is that while we are bemoaning our Tamriel intervention (like a junkie in rehab) and making this thread fly into its fourth page, the server will probably be up and running in another 40 minutes!

    Actually, it's a good chance to browse the forum and check out threads that are of interest.
    NA Mega-server
    Basilthwaite - male Nord Templar Ebonheart Pact (unwittingly looks like Hulk Hogan. Trying to find some bright gold breeches to match the persona.)

    Arwen Basilrond - female Wood Elf Nightblade Aldmeri Dominion (this character is smoken', but she's been advised to quite due to 'elf reasons!)

    Sir Basil Ozarian - male Imperial Dragonknight Daggerfall Covenant (this character is titled, but not entitled!)
  • Hyperventilate
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    Also, everyone realizes that the maintenance is 8:00 AM... right? Not sure where this "friday night" talk is coming from unless it's a different timezone compensation.
  • uberwolfe
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    valen741 wrote: »
    Lots of valid points and I do understand...But... There are 4 other non-peak days in the week. Why Friday of all nights? Surely there would be other options...

    Wow people, I'm extremely happy with the time they those, I live where it counts (USA East Coast) And to hear that they're supposedly fixing server issues just in time for me to finish my toast, pour another cup of coffee. Have my morning smoke. Call off work for the day. Then get ready to play the whole day and weekend issue free? That's perfect. absolutely no issue. They chose the perfect time.

    You Non-Americans have seen for the past 10 years company's cater to us. The USA. For any of you to still complain about this you need to grow up and maybe move out of the *** hole your in.

    ZOS has done an amazing job with this game and with 61 million items in game. They have definitely worked their ass off, not for you to sit and complain. Be glad they even allow your country to play it!

    Lol, prime example of an entitled *** right here.
    Edited by uberwolfe on April 11, 2014 1:21PM
  • DanteYoda
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    valen741 wrote: »
    Lots of valid points and I do understand...But... There are 4 other non-peak days in the week. Why Friday of all nights? Surely there would be other options...

    Wow people, I'm extremely happy with the time they those, I live where it counts (USA East Coast) And to hear that they're supposedly fixing server issues just in time for me to finish my toast, pour another cup of coffee. Have my morning smoke. Call off work for the day. Then get ready to play the whole day and weekend issue free? That's perfect. absolutely no issue. They chose the perfect time.

    You Non-Americans have seen for the past 10 years company's cater to us. The USA. For any of you to still complain about this you need to grow up and maybe move out of the *** hole your in.

    ZOS has done an amazing job with this game and with 61 million items in game. They have definitely worked their ass off, not for you to sit and complain. Be glad they even allow your country to play it!

    Typical Yank answer, hows a big no sound to you American
  • djodars
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    What is an Oceanic?
  • WhiteScythe
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    valen741 wrote: »
    Lots of valid points and I do understand...But... There are 4 other non-peak days in the week. Why Friday of all nights? Surely there would be other options...

    Wow people, I'm extremely happy with the time they those, I live where it counts (USA East Coast) And to hear that they're supposedly fixing server issues just in time for me to finish my toast, pour another cup of coffee. Have my morning smoke. Call off work for the day. Then get ready to play the whole day and weekend issue free? That's perfect. absolutely no issue. They chose the perfect time.

    You Non-Americans have seen for the past 10 years company's cater to us. The USA. For any of you to still complain about this you need to grow up and maybe move out of the *** hole your in.

    ZOS has done an amazing job with this game and with 61 million items in game. They have definitely worked their ass off, not for you to sit and complain. Be glad they even allow your country to play it!

    ^ This guy.

    Get out of our thread. Your input is invalid.

    NA-PC Daggerfall Covenant #dcforlife
    WTB OCEANIC SERVER -- because 250+ MS is UNPLAYABLE
    ESO+ Officially DEAD 2025
    WHY do we NOT have cross platform servers in 2025?
  • valen741
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    Also, everyone realizes that the maintenance is 8:00 AM... right? Not sure where this "friday night" talk is coming from unless it's a different timezone compensation.

    Oh dear...
  • valen741
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    How to end a thread quicky?....

    IT'S UP!!! lol
  • babylon
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    babylon wrote: »
    Pretty sure this is scheduled because it's probably their lowest activity during the particular day.

    Some people will always get screwed. That's just how it is. This has nothing to do of when it's the best time for you. They schedule (or try, anyway. Leniency is given in the first month-two months due to major issues that need to be addressed) their maintenance based around the lowest server activity (Such as the lowest amount of people that are usually on at a particular time.)

    It sucks, but tough. There's nothing you can do about it. Unfortunately, the minorities/alternative scheduled peoples that usually play around the time of maintenance only have the option to just deal with it.

    There's a difference between making a time that doesn't affect USA much and making a time that completely screws over a whole region.

    They need to shift maintenance times to take Oceanics into consideration.

    When you're the majority, you'll be considered. Blows, but that's how it works.

    NO that's not how it works. Consideration is about compromise. You don't call it a compromise when you're only listening to the majority. What's happening now is really bad for a whole region of the world, and they could easily make it less of an impact for us with a little compromise.
  • Ri_Dariit
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    valen741 wrote: »
    lol Thanks mate but I just haven't looked at my profile settings yet *blushes*
    I'm in Australia :)

    This one must apologize, Khajiit held axe on sharp end. Australia in time-zone too. Ri'Dariit feels your pain, as being on island surrounded by Pacific water.
    Edited by Ri_Dariit on April 11, 2014 1:23PM
    Fusozay Var VarJaji kor nirni. Ri'Dariit ahnurr shir Gouranga an vasa rid-t'har.
  • Basil_oz
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    Also, everyone realizes that the maintenance is 8:00 AM... right? Not sure where this "friday night" talk is coming from unless it's a different timezone compensation.

    Does someone want to break the news to Hyper that the world is round!!!
    NA Mega-server
    Basilthwaite - male Nord Templar Ebonheart Pact (unwittingly looks like Hulk Hogan. Trying to find some bright gold breeches to match the persona.)

    Arwen Basilrond - female Wood Elf Nightblade Aldmeri Dominion (this character is smoken', but she's been advised to quite due to 'elf reasons!)

    Sir Basil Ozarian - male Imperial Dragonknight Daggerfall Covenant (this character is titled, but not entitled!)
  • joshweps
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    Americans are the pits If this was on there friday night we wouldn't hear the end of it. And i Think the oceanic minority is a bit bigger than 2-5% are u *** serious Darkr typical *** yank
  • Dev
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    Rippah wrote: »
    why don't you show the same courtesy to oceanic gamers & support them too?

    Have you not seen these forums? We don't support the person right next to us, why on earth do you think we would support a region for which a lot of us don't even know?

    Now I would agree that region based servers should actually be within that region.

    However I do not agree that the window should be changed. I actually think its a good time, as it would mean a fresh server restart right before the weekend for the primary server audience.

    Don't think of this as an anti-oceanic perspective, but I prefer the idea that servers for NA have schedules based on NA times.
  • Hyperventilate
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    Basil_oz wrote: »
    Also, everyone realizes that the maintenance is 8:00 AM... right? Not sure where this "friday night" talk is coming from unless it's a different timezone compensation.

    Does someone want to break the news to Hyper that the world is round!!!

    You don't say? My confusion was that people were demanding change in a night time maintenance. I even mentioned the time zone consideration in my post, dear!

    I'll get back to memorizing my time zones to appease you.

  • scruffycavetroll
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    8am EST on a friday...fine time to do it...no matter what time they pull it down, someone will be inconvenienced..find something else to do for 2 hours.
  • DanteYoda
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    Also, everyone realizes that the maintenance is 8:00 AM... right? Not sure where this "friday night" talk is coming from unless it's a different timezone compensation.

    Friday night here in Australia, you know the whole reason the thread was created for..
  • valen741
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    valen741 wrote: »
    lol Thanks mate but I just haven't looked at my profile settings yet *blushes*
    I'm in Australia :)

    This one must apologize, Khajiit held axe on sharp end. Australia in time-zone too. Ri'Dariit feels your pain, as being on island surrounded by Pacific water.

    You're awesome.. I do really mean that :)
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