Maintenance for the week of April 6:
• [IN PROGRESS] ESO Store and Account System for maintenance – April 8, 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC) - 6:00PM EDT (22:00 UTC)
• [IN PROGRESS] ESO Store and Account System for maintenance – April 8, 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC) - 6:00PM EDT (22:00 UTC)
How can you justify this? Maintenance on a FRIDAY NIGHT?
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The maintenance announcements declaring the Europe server started and then finished were two hours apart.
Based on Europe (and as long as there aren't other issues specific to the US server) we are probably looking at a two hour downtime. Fingers crossed.NA Mega-server
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The EU server has horrible latency for Oceanics. We'll never play on the EU server, ever.Hietala217 wrote: »Why not play on the EU server if this is such a huge issue for you?
6am CEST is 12pm EST, meaning you would be in bed when it underwent maintenance. In every game, even those WITH Oceanic servers, there is always this 'outrage' because the NA server was taken offline at an 'inconvenient' time. I typically play a lot late night, early morning... so I lose play time too, oh well. But, hey, EU server is up... go have fun on it. :P
US people don't have issues playing on the EU server because you lot are closer to it. Distance is what makes pings high, nothing can be done about distance.
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Vlas✭✭✭pavelcherepanskyrwb17_ESO wrote: »How are letting someone know the facts an "attitude"?
Being arrogant is an attitude. Maybe you should know that this is North American Megaserver which is for most of players outside Europe including all Asia and Oceania. Were there any other option I wouldn't play on American server but there isn't.
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Vyndetta✭✭✭The argument has merit only in that it's a Friday. Unless there's some major fix happening, patching and maintenance should never happen Friday-Sunday. Those are peak playing days for many MMO'ers and terrible planning for companies.1 -
Syndiaan✭✭thefreezingvoid wrote: »My mistake, I forgot about the change in maintenance times.
North American Megaserver
Tuesdays at 8:00am EDT (12pm GMT)
Fridays at 8:00am EDT (12pm GMT)
European Megaserver
Tuesdays at 6:00am CEST (5:00am BST)
Fridays at 6:00am CEST (5:00am BST)
It was on sundays, but there was a huge back lash from the NA and EU communities about having it on weekends when most people in these zones are off work.
Unfortunately someone has to take the bullet for maintenance, and since NA and EU are likely their biggest audience, they sort of set the schedules, like it or not.
Yes, someone has to take a bullet for maintenance. Yes, it is usually going to be the Oceanic player-base due to population proportions.
But why a Friday?
Why not have the regular maintenance periods be on Monday and Thursday, when the majority of Oceanic players still have to be awake for work/school the next morning? It's still the same period of time between maintenance days, without causing as many issues for peak playing time.
What about people that work sat/sun? You can't please everyone....Welcome to the real world kiddo.0 -
Darkro✭✭✭Wow Darkro, who's oblivious to reality? Get off your high horse...
So essentially you're suggesting that companies shouldn't consider a "minority" of their customer base... Good one!
That is EXACTLY what I am suggesting. When you only have the NA server and basically 2 very different time zone, between 2 harmful situations, a company should always chose the lesser harmful one, which they have done, and as you've seen on forums, everything is calm and serene regarding server maintenance.
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Shanna✭✭✭I've noticed that East Coast (EDT) usually gets first priority out of the states time zones. 8 a.m. for them pretty much means they already have to be at work/school for the day. We on the west coast are 3 hours earlier than that. Though, granted, not being able to get my fix before work is not nearly as bad as not being able to play on a Friday night, for sure.This is all part of the game.2
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f### im over being apart of the oceanic community when gaming when it comes to mmos lol, always getting screwed over Friday nights is one of the only times I get to play. its either maintenance or never getting servers despite being 2014 and having to deal with a life of lag. not really a fan of this megaserver setup would have preferred how other mmos did it better off that way, better yet like swtor and give us an oceanic server.1
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valen741✭✭✭OMG.. Small minded people... With no understanding of good business practice... There are 6 other days in the week... 4 of which aren't peak for anyone...
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✭✭thefreezingvoid wrote: »My mistake, I forgot about the change in maintenance times.
North American Megaserver
Tuesdays at 8:00am EDT (12pm GMT)
Fridays at 8:00am EDT (12pm GMT)
European Megaserver
Tuesdays at 6:00am CEST (5:00am BST)
Fridays at 6:00am CEST (5:00am BST)
It was on sundays, but there was a huge back lash from the NA and EU communities about having it on weekends when most people in these zones are off work.
Unfortunately someone has to take the bullet for maintenance, and since NA and EU are likely their biggest audience, they sort of set the schedules, like it or not.
Yes, someone has to take a bullet for maintenance. Yes, it is usually going to be the Oceanic player-base due to population proportions.
But why a Friday?
Why not have the regular maintenance periods be on Monday and Thursday, when the majority of Oceanic players still have to be awake for work/school the next morning? It's still the same period of time between maintenance days, without causing as many issues for peak playing time.
What about people that work sat/sun? You can't please everyone....Welcome to the real world kiddo.
Small number of workers vs a couple of entire countries, you'd think they'd try to please the countries full of people.0 -
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The EU server has horrible latency for Oceanics. We'll never play on the EU server, ever.Hietala217 wrote: »Why not play on the EU server if this is such a huge issue for you?
6am CEST is 12pm EST, meaning you would be in bed when it underwent maintenance. In every game, even those WITH Oceanic servers, there is always this 'outrage' because the NA server was taken offline at an 'inconvenient' time. I typically play a lot late night, early morning... so I lose play time too, oh well. But, hey, EU server is up... go have fun on it. :P
US people don't have issues playing on the EU server because you lot are closer to it. Distance is what makes pings high, nothing can be done about distance.
EU servers are located in US. So i'm pretty sure there is no difference in latency for you.
Edited by Bangstin on April 11, 2014 12:47PM0 -
Rippah✭Frodos_Bane wrote: »Are you having trouble understanding?...
Yes, I do not understand you.
There is NO reason that anyone's Friday-Sunday has to be effected - No matter where you live.
I would support NA & UK if your weekends were effected - why don't you show the same courtesy to oceanic gamers & support them too?
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Eris✭✭✭✭I don't know the complexities of the mega-server, but it seems to me that a game should be able to get by with one maintenance a week done on Thursday to prepare for the upcoming weekend. Then they can have the server do a self-test against whatever they think is slowing things down on Monday and perform an additional maintenance if needed. People would just have to accept that on Mondays the server may or may not be available for a couple hours.Side effects of reading messages on forums can cause nausea, head aches, spontaneous fits of rage, urination due to intense laughter, and sometimes the death of your monitor or other object in throwing range. If you find that you are reading forums more than 24 hours a day, please consult your nearest temporal physicist.1
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✭no matter when they do it they are going to *** someone off hopefully they are fixing the main quest bug here in which case I wouldn't care what time they brought er down because frankly that should have been considered an emergency and fixed a long time agoEdited by Laura on April 11, 2014 12:48PM0 -
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The EU server has horrible latency for Oceanics. We'll never play on the EU server, ever.Hietala217 wrote: »Why not play on the EU server if this is such a huge issue for you?
6am CEST is 12pm EST, meaning you would be in bed when it underwent maintenance. In every game, even those WITH Oceanic servers, there is always this 'outrage' because the NA server was taken offline at an 'inconvenient' time. I typically play a lot late night, early morning... so I lose play time too, oh well. But, hey, EU server is up... go have fun on it. :P
US people don't have issues playing on the EU server because you lot are closer to it. Distance is what makes pings high, nothing can be done about distance.
EU servers are located in US.
And will be moved to EU datacentre sometime post-launch... why would we bother when it'll be unplayable at some undisclosed time/date?1 -
quthth_ESOSoul Shrivenunfortunately not.. this is now regular weekly maintenance, announced yesterday.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/75114/regular-maintenance-days-times
And we're on NA not EU - Latency on EU makes it virtually unplayable
You do realize that the EU servers are in the US until a later date. That lag is all in your head.
Oceanic is a minority of the population, and this is an emergency maintenance to hopefully fix some game breaking bugs which have kept people from progressing to veteran content for a week now myself included.
Usually it will be on tuesdays, or thursdays. So suck it up, and be happy that you probably won't be affected by the groundskeeper not being intractable, or the East and West portals not spawning for 6+ hours at a time.
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Yeah I know that but they're not staying there, they'll be moved to EU soon and that's what we're talking about when we say EU has/will have higher latency.
The EU server has horrible latency for Oceanics. We'll never play on the EU server, ever.Hietala217 wrote: »Why not play on the EU server if this is such a huge issue for you?
6am CEST is 12pm EST, meaning you would be in bed when it underwent maintenance. In every game, even those WITH Oceanic servers, there is always this 'outrage' because the NA server was taken offline at an 'inconvenient' time. I typically play a lot late night, early morning... so I lose play time too, oh well. But, hey, EU server is up... go have fun on it. :P
US people don't have issues playing on the EU server because you lot are closer to it. Distance is what makes pings high, nothing can be done about distance.
EU servers are located in US. So i'm pretty sure there is no difference in latency for you.
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Mawgrim✭✭thefreezingvoid wrote: »My mistake, I forgot about the change in maintenance times.
North American Megaserver
Tuesdays at 8:00am EDT (12pm GMT)
Fridays at 8:00am EDT (12pm GMT)
European Megaserver
Tuesdays at 6:00am CEST (5:00am BST)
Fridays at 6:00am CEST (5:00am BST)
It was on sundays, but there was a huge back lash from the NA and EU communities about having it on weekends when most people in these zones are off work.
Unfortunately someone has to take the bullet for maintenance, and since NA and EU are likely their biggest audience, they sort of set the schedules, like it or not.
Yes, someone has to take a bullet for maintenance. Yes, it is usually going to be the Oceanic player-base due to population proportions.
But why a Friday?
Why not have the regular maintenance periods be on Monday and Thursday, when the majority of Oceanic players still have to be awake for work/school the next morning? It's still the same period of time between maintenance days, without causing as many issues for peak playing time.
What about people that work sat/sun? You can't please everyone....Welcome to the real world kiddo.
They always say not to feed the trolls, but hey its Friday night and I've got nothing better to do until the game comes back online after maintenance.
Unless my knowledge on how the calendar works is completely incorrect and I've been reading it wrong all this time, having Monday and Thursday maintenance periods shouldn't mess around people who have to work Saturdays or Sundays. So I suspect they'd be pretty good with maintenance not happening on a Friday night.
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SK1TZ0FR3N1K✭✭✭I am rather amused on how oblivious you are to the reality. Basically you say you are connecting to the NA servers to play; yes ...I understand, the lack of Oceanic servers is forcing you to do this.
However, where I start and fail to understand is when you expect a MINORITY of 2-5% oceanic (aussies) of the NA player-base population, if even that, to be prioritized over more than 90% of the real player base that's actually in U.S timezone. It's quite mind boggling that your even consider it.blahblahblah
Don't overdramatise things. Nobody said "prioritise OVER"...just make it Monday and Thursday instead of Tuesday and Friday.
Monday mornings in the US are not an off-peak time. I actually see more people online Monday mornings, than I do late afternoon Friday, in any game I play. Tuesdays seem to be the universal maintenance for MMO's.
Edited by SK1TZ0FR3N1K on April 11, 2014 12:55PM“There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin’. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” -Will Rogers0 -
WhiteScythe✭✭✭✭So we all payed good money for this game, including a LOT of people in the Oceanic region.
How the HELL do you justify taking the game down for maintenance at 10PM on a Friday night for us?
I just can't describe how disappointed I am in you right now Zenimax. I would've thought you'd actually look after your customers and actually allow them to have a decent play session on a Friday night.
This NEEDS to be addressed and I can't see the oceanic population backing down on this one guy's. Seriously... Get it together before you lose a whole bunch of subscribers... Really pathetic...
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We either need our OWN Oceanic megaserver or please actually consider us for once. Just ONCE in the history of gaming will ONE company actually THINK about Oceanic players?!
Always at a disadvantage purely because of where we live, it's not fair.
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tomato1986Soul Shriven
Yes, someone has to take a bullet for maintenance. Yes, it is usually going to be the Oceanic player-base due to population proportions.
But why a Friday?
Why not have the regular maintenance periods be on Monday and Thursday, when the majority of Oceanic players still have to be awake for work/school the next morning? It's still the same period of time between maintenance days, without causing as many issues for peak playing time.
Exactly. Why all the discussion about which time is better. Real Question is why would they do it on Friday.
World peace.1 -
SK1TZ0FR3N1K✭✭✭thefreezingvoid wrote: »But why a Friday?
Why not have the regular maintenance periods be on Monday and Thursday, when the majority of Oceanic players still have to be awake for work/school the next morning? It's still the same period of time between maintenance days, without causing as many issues for peak playing time.
It's not about the time frame between maintenance, its about the timeframe of the day(s) there are the least amount of people online.“There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin’. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” -Will Rogers0 -
AnubianSoul ShrivenI don't see why the server maintenance times HAVE to be at a time very inconvenient for the Oceanic population. All they literally have to do is change the maintenance by a few hours such as 11am instead of 8am and for the majority of Oceanic players that will be bed time.
Even better why not Thursday instead? A lot of workers get home early on Fridays but who cares that much about Thursdays. I have not seen another MMO ignore the Oceanic fan-base this much in quite a long time."Who cares about Oceanic People?" - Zenimax1 -
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Pfft Monday morning prime time suddenly...I call ***. Whatever even if that were true - learn to compromise to avoid sticking maintenance on a whole region's absolute prime time (Friday night).SK1TZ0FR3N1K wrote: »I am rather amused on how oblivious you are to the reality. Basically you say you are connecting to the NA servers to play; yes ...I understand, the lack of Oceanic servers is forcing you to do this.
However, where I start and fail to understand is when you expect a MINORITY of 2-5% oceanic (aussies) of the NA player-base population, if even that, to be prioritized over more than 90% of the real player base that's actually in U.S timezone. It's quite mind boggling that your even consider it.blahblahblah
Don't overdramatise things. Nobody said "prioritise OVER"...just make it Monday and Thursday instead of Tuesday and Friday.
Monday morning in the US are not an off-peak time. I actually see more people online Monday mornings, than I do late afternoon Friday, in any game I play. Tuesdays seem to be the universal maintenance for MMO's.Edited by babylon on April 11, 2014 12:56PM1 -
SK1TZ0FR3N1K✭✭✭
The EU server has horrible latency for Oceanics. We'll never play on the EU server, ever.Hietala217 wrote: »Why not play on the EU server if this is such a huge issue for you?
6am CEST is 12pm EST, meaning you would be in bed when it underwent maintenance. In every game, even those WITH Oceanic servers, there is always this 'outrage' because the NA server was taken offline at an 'inconvenient' time. I typically play a lot late night, early morning... so I lose play time too, oh well. But, hey, EU server is up... go have fun on it. :P
US people don't have issues playing on the EU server because you lot are closer to it. Distance is what makes pings high, nothing can be done about distance.
Actually, the EU server is housed in the US right now, just like the US server.“There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin’. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” -Will Rogers0 -
Shanna✭✭✭Wouldn't doing it in the middle of the night, rather than early morning EDT, help everyone out? Sounds like it would bump Oceanic to Friday afternoon, at least. Do they really need to accommodate east coast state players who stay up all night on a Thursday?This is all part of the game.2
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I'm not going to get too angry but I did get home eager to play and was a bit p*ssed off. They should at the very least *try* to find a time that fits for as many people as possible. I have a feeling they didn't bother though and just went what was convenient for the US. It's early days but I think an Oceanic server would be brilliant in the not-too-distant future.
On a side note can I play the EU server while the NA one is down? I tried and now it's acting like I need to download the entire game again...1
