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Trader bidding.

Tyralbin
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Last time we had maintenance during trader bidding times it caused all sorts of issues.

Guilds won that shouldn't have, guilds lost gold but got no trader, all info was haywire to name a few.

Please ZOS can you postpone the bidding until server has been back up for a while.

Otherwise you will have the game doing all the trader bidding stuff with loads of people logging in. Now that is a recipe for disaster.
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  • SantieClaws
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    Agreed.

    This is the worst possible time for maintenance.

    While the maintenance itself cannot be helped it would be appreciated if whatever steps possible can be taken to mitigate the potential damage this may cause to traders and the trader bidding system this week.

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  • Neyane
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    Yes please. Guild I'm in had trouble last week with getting their usual trader, if it happens again... :/
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Guilds won that shouldn't have
    So... why do you said "shouldn't" won ? Is there a exploit in the system that certain guild can perma take trading spots ? ? ;)

    If the answer is "yes" ZOS should balance it out by adding some sort of global trading spot, so small guilds & solo players could also sell limited number of items. Add this and the economy will balance itself out.
  • Verbal_Earthworm
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    Agreed.

    This is the worst possible time for maintenance.

    While the maintenance itself cannot be helped it would be appreciated if whatever steps possible can be taken to mitigate the potential damage this may cause to traders and the trader bidding system this week.

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  • Tyralbin
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    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Guilds won that shouldn't have
    So... why do you said "shouldn't" won ? Is there a exploit in the system that certain guild can perma take trading spots ? ? ;)

    If the answer is "yes" ZOS should balance it out by adding some sort of global trading spot, so small guilds & solo players could also sell limited number of items. Add this and the economy will balance itself out.

    Nah the bidding system got messed up because maintenance was done during the bidding (just like now). Some wrong guilds won the bid.

    Think they were rectified though.

    So no exploit was done just errors during the bidding process.

    Edited by Tyralbin on April 28, 2019 5:30PM
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  • ShadowPaladin
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    Don't you worry ladies :sunglasses: … I am already standing by to log in with all of my one hundred accounts to get as many spots as possible... You can buy them afterwards from me for a lousy 100mio Gold per spot :blush: ..!


    Joke aside :neutral: … Tyr, San and Ney are right..! Please ZOS, don't let us have them same chaos we had the last time... It took forever to straight out all the mess we had :cold_sweat:


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    Edited by ShadowPaladin on April 28, 2019 5:29PM
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Guilds won that shouldn't have
    So... why do you said "shouldn't" won ? Is there a exploit in the system that certain guild can perma take trading spots ? ? ;)

    If the answer is "yes" ZOS should balance it out by adding some sort of global trading spot, so small guilds & solo players could also sell limited number of items. Add this and the economy will balance itself out.

    Nah the bidding system got messed up because maintenance was done during the bidding (just like now). Some wrong guilds won the bid.

    Think they were rectified though.

    Yeah, that is why I ask. As far as I know it is "random" who wins the bidding. So how do you know they should not have won it ?
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on April 28, 2019 5:31PM
  • Tyralbin
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    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Guilds won that shouldn't have
    So... why do you said "shouldn't" won ? Is there a exploit in the system that certain guild can perma take trading spots ? ? ;)

    If the answer is "yes" ZOS should balance it out by adding some sort of global trading spot, so small guilds & solo players could also sell limited number of items. Add this and the economy will balance itself out.

    Nah the bidding system got messed up because maintenance was done during the bidding (just like now). Some wrong guilds won the bid.

    Think they were rectified though.

    Yeah, that is why I ask. As far as I know it is "random" who wins the bidding. So how do you know they should not have won it ?

    One of the guilds won a bid on a trader they did not did on, they won the bid on the trader they had bid on the previous week.

    Also, it isn't random who wins a bid. It is the highest bidder. (Though I do not know what would happen if 2 guilds bid the exact same highest bid).

    Edited by Tyralbin on April 28, 2019 5:36PM
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  • JPS
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    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Guilds won that shouldn't have
    So... why do you said "shouldn't" won ? Is there a exploit in the system that certain guild can perma take trading spots ? ? ;)

    If the answer is "yes" ZOS should balance it out by adding some sort of global trading spot, so small guilds & solo players could also sell limited number of items. Add this and the economy will balance itself out.

    Nah the bidding system got messed up because maintenance was done during the bidding (just like now). Some wrong guilds won the bid.

    Think they were rectified though.

    Yeah, that is why I ask. As far as I know it is "random" who wins the bidding. So how do you know they should not have won it ?

    What random? Highest bid wins….
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    JPS wrote: »
    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Guilds won that shouldn't have
    So... why do you said "shouldn't" won ? Is there a exploit in the system that certain guild can perma take trading spots ? ? ;)

    If the answer is "yes" ZOS should balance it out by adding some sort of global trading spot, so small guilds & solo players could also sell limited number of items. Add this and the economy will balance itself out.

    Nah the bidding system got messed up because maintenance was done during the bidding (just like now). Some wrong guilds won the bid.

    Think they were rectified though.

    Yeah, that is why I ask. As far as I know it is "random" who wins the bidding. So how do you know they should not have won it ?

    What random? Highest bid wins….
    Yeah.. but what if more than 1 pays equally high bid ?
  • Tyralbin
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    JPS wrote: »
    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Guilds won that shouldn't have
    So... why do you said "shouldn't" won ? Is there a exploit in the system that certain guild can perma take trading spots ? ? ;)

    If the answer is "yes" ZOS should balance it out by adding some sort of global trading spot, so small guilds & solo players could also sell limited number of items. Add this and the economy will balance itself out.

    Nah the bidding system got messed up because maintenance was done during the bidding (just like now). Some wrong guilds won the bid.

    Think they were rectified though.

    Yeah, that is why I ask. As far as I know it is "random" who wins the bidding. So how do you know they should not have won it ?

    What random? Highest bid wins….
    Yeah.. but what if more than 1 pays equally high bid ?

    The only people that know that are ZOS. Would love to know the answer to that myself.
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  • Tyralbin
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    Well crisis averted servers back up :)
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  • kargen27
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    JPS wrote: »
    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Guilds won that shouldn't have
    So... why do you said "shouldn't" won ? Is there a exploit in the system that certain guild can perma take trading spots ? ? ;)

    If the answer is "yes" ZOS should balance it out by adding some sort of global trading spot, so small guilds & solo players could also sell limited number of items. Add this and the economy will balance itself out.

    Nah the bidding system got messed up because maintenance was done during the bidding (just like now). Some wrong guilds won the bid.

    Think they were rectified though.

    Yeah, that is why I ask. As far as I know it is "random" who wins the bidding. So how do you know they should not have won it ?

    What random? Highest bid wins….
    Yeah.. but what if more than 1 pays equally high bid ?

    I'm thinking first bid wins? Just a guess.
    Edited by kargen27 on April 28, 2019 6:17PM
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  • Dont_do_drugs
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    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Guilds won that shouldn't have
    So... why do you said "shouldn't" won ? Is there a exploit in the system that certain guild can perma take trading spots ? ? ;)

    If the answer is "yes" ZOS should balance it out by adding some sort of global trading spot, so small guilds & solo players could also sell limited number of items. Add this and the economy will balance itself out.

    Nah the bidding system got messed up because maintenance was done during the bidding (just like now). Some wrong guilds won the bid.

    Think they were rectified though.

    So no exploit was done just errors during the bidding process.

    most likely it happened then, because of some kind of rollback or social bug, which made the bidding information not going "in" correctly and some guilds just seemed to the server as "no bid". i remember that times when that happened on pc eu, and i was plain server issues leading into server not receiving bids.

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  • inchdixprb19_ESO
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    Tyralbin wrote: »
    Well crisis averted servers back up :)

    well login timeout again for me plus the banner is back saying they are investigating
  • Dosuul
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    Guess will be a surprise later today, when log-in works again. D
  • SammiSakura
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    please postpone zos! this is gonna be chaos...
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  • FooWasHere
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    I strongly support this notion! It must be postponed.
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  • Dont_do_drugs
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    sweet u ask for that, but i doubt zos is able to do so so easy. they are having so many problems in the past with interfering into the bidding proces, they cant remove bids, they cant change the backup exploit so far and move guilds and so on. somehow i doubt they will be able to change the time so fast.

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    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

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  • Tyralbin
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    Think they may have brought servers back up for trader and then are going to sort out problems now.
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  • Palidon
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    This might be off topic for this thread, but a simple solution would be to have a game wide market place instead of a bunch of different trade guilds scattered all over the place. To me it would be much better to just have one central market place where all players could list and sell their stuff. BDO has one and it works much better than all the trade quilds we currently have in ESO. Also there are no requirements a player has to continually meet to stay in the market place like they do with many of the trade guilds in ESO.
  • Dont_do_drugs
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    Palidon wrote: »
    This might be off topic for this thread, but a simple solution would be to have a game wide market place instead of a bunch of different trade guilds scattered all over the place. To me it would be much better to just have one central market place where all players could list and sell their stuff. BDO has one and it works much better than all the trade quilds we currently have in ESO. Also there are no requirements a player has to continually meet to stay in the market place like they do with many of the trade guilds in ESO.

    Tbh I think, ZOS should start implementing the Auction House debate into the forum TOS. Actually its off topic anyways since "we need auction house" has absolutely nothing to do with the topic here. There is nothing more annoying, than people who swarm into trade guild threads like on commando to tell, that there needs to be an auction house as solution to everything trade guild related, you're not even helpfull or contributing anything to the topic. ZOS stated multiple times, it wont come. Its not even on the "maybe if u ask a million times" list, its on the "abolutely, no, no stop annoying us with that topic - hell no and now go away" list.

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    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

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  • Tyralbin
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    The game would need to be done from scratch to do a full auction house and to change the guild system.

    So don't expect any chance of a AH until ESO 2.
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