Gilliam is completely out of touch if this bullcrap is what he considered a cohesive class design
NBs ONLY have damage. They don’t have utility and their defenses are unreliable at best
Ectheliontnacil wrote: »Gilliam is completely out of touch if this bullcrap is what he considered a cohesive class design
NBs ONLY have damage. They don’t have utility and their defenses are unreliable at best
Ye lol. It was obvious when he was still on YouTube that he had very limited knowledge of nightblades. He was neither good at pvp (see clips) or competed in endgame pve (as far as I know). People recommend him because he was able to perform some high school level maths in his videos and that was perceived as impressive or something.
I mean I'm sure he brings a lot to the table but nightblade balance is something they should have looked at more carefully.
As controversial as some of his changes were. Wrobel was actually way better in hindsight. His last year of eso balance was legit good I'd say and he never pushed ridiculous, awkward stuff like the merciless change.
Grim focus could provide all the buffs in the world but as long as it does not provide minor berserk, then people will still complain.
With the Monday changes, grim focus will be better than before, you can still get minor berserk, but you will gain a lot of resistances, so honestly just stop, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous.
And people are calling out gilliam, like, stop, before you get on gilliam level you need to learn a lot of stuff about the game.
He's actively making nb better, and you still complain, What i would like to see though is 30 seconds on grim focus otherwise mag nb is at a big disadvantage.
Grim focus useless, gtfo of here with that bs.
Grim focus could provide all the buffs in the world but as long as it does not provide minor berserk, then people will still complain.
With the Monday changes, grim focus will be better than before, you can still get minor berserk, but you will gain a lot of resistances, so honestly just stop, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous.
And people are calling out gilliam, like, stop, before you get on gilliam level you need to learn a lot of stuff about the game.
He's actively making nb better, and you still complain, What i would like to see though is 30 seconds on grim focus otherwise mag nb is at a big disadvantage.
Grim focus useless, gtfo of here with that bs.
He took a purely offensive ability and turned it into defensive ability while removing the primary offense functions. The bow proc is about the same as frags with higher costs and more stringent proc conditions, with even more conditions to make use of the new secondary healing.
It’s awful design
Grim focus could provide all the buffs in the world but as long as it does not provide minor berserk, then people will still complain.
With the Monday changes, grim focus will be better than before, you can still get minor berserk, but you will gain a lot of resistances, so honestly just stop, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous.
And people are calling out gilliam, like, stop, before you get on gilliam level you need to learn a lot of stuff about the game.
He's actively making nb better, and you still complain, What i would like to see though is 30 seconds on grim focus otherwise mag nb is at a big disadvantage.
Grim focus useless, gtfo of here with that bs.
He took a purely offensive ability and turned it into defensive ability while removing the primary offense functions. The bow proc is about the same as frags with higher costs and more stringent proc conditions, with even more conditions to make use of the new secondary healing.
It’s awful design
WHAT? So a proc that does upwards of 90k damage is not "offensive enough" anymore, are you serious dude?
Nb doesn't have a dps problem, this resistance is better than a few more dps that you can get elsewhere.
This ability hardly qualifies as defensive, now it has both offense and defense, it's a good change.
Grim focus could provide all the buffs in the world but as long as it does not provide minor berserk, then people will still complain.
With the Monday changes, grim focus will be better than before, you can still get minor berserk, but you will gain a lot of resistances, so honestly just stop, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous.
And people are calling out gilliam, like, stop, before you get on gilliam level you need to learn a lot of stuff about the game.
He's actively making nb better, and you still complain, What i would like to see though is 30 seconds on grim focus otherwise mag nb is at a big disadvantage.
Grim focus useless, gtfo of here with that bs.
He took a purely offensive ability and turned it into defensive ability while removing the primary offense functions. The bow proc is about the same as frags with higher costs and more stringent proc conditions, with even more conditions to make use of the new secondary healing.
It’s awful design
WHAT? So a proc that does upwards of 90k damage is not "offensive enough" anymore, are you serious dude?
Nb doesn't have a dps problem, this resistance is better than a few more dps that you can get elsewhere.
This ability hardly qualifies as defensive, now it has both offense and defense, it's a good change.
90k in what world? Tooltips barely put it higher than a proc’d frag, already caculated a few posts up.
If its only benifit on initial cast is mitigation, it’s a defensive ability. The whopping 4k dps in a perfect scenario does not an offensive ability make.
The healing is unreliable and the method of stacking mitigation is convoluted for no clear reason.
The idea of stacking mitigation itself isn’t awful, but it’d be better off on a stand your ground class, or hell, stick it on Path. Expedition is useless and Double Take should keep it what with RAT currently being a better, cheaper, more combat oriented version of Double Take. Go full maneuvering on DT, full utility on Path. Give NB something useful for groups that other classes don’t do far better
Grim focus could provide all the buffs in the world but as long as it does not provide minor berserk, then people will still complain.
With the Monday changes, grim focus will be better than before, you can still get minor berserk, but you will gain a lot of resistances, so honestly just stop, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous.
And people are calling out gilliam, like, stop, before you get on gilliam level you need to learn a lot of stuff about the game.
He's actively making nb better, and you still complain, What i would like to see though is 30 seconds on grim focus otherwise mag nb is at a big disadvantage.
Grim focus useless, gtfo of here with that bs.
He took a purely offensive ability and turned it into defensive ability while removing the primary offense functions. The bow proc is about the same as frags with higher costs and more stringent proc conditions, with even more conditions to make use of the new secondary healing.
It’s awful design
WHAT? So a proc that does upwards of 90k damage is not "offensive enough" anymore, are you serious dude?
Nb doesn't have a dps problem, this resistance is better than a few more dps that you can get elsewhere.
This ability hardly qualifies as defensive, now it has both offense and defense, it's a good change.
90k in what world? Tooltips barely put it higher than a proc’d frag, already caculated a few posts up.
If its only benifit on initial cast is mitigation, it’s a defensive ability. The whopping 4k dps in a perfect scenario does not an offensive ability make.
The healing is unreliable and the method of stacking mitigation is convoluted for no clear reason.
The idea of stacking mitigation itself isn’t awful, but it’d be better off on a stand your ground class, or hell, stick it on Path. Expedition is useless and Double Take should keep it what with RAT currently being a better, cheaper, more combat oriented version of Double Take. Go full maneuvering on DT, full utility on Path. Give NB something useful for groups that other classes don’t do far better
Yea, you don't know wtf you are talking about,grim focus can hit well over 70k upwards of 100k with bt, in pvp it still hits very hard.
i won't really bother extending this further seen your lack of knowledge.
Grim focus could provide all the buffs in the world but as long as it does not provide minor berserk, then people will still complain.
With the Monday changes, grim focus will be better than before, you can still get minor berserk, but you will gain a lot of resistances, so honestly just stop, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous.
And people are calling out gilliam, like, stop, before you get on gilliam level you need to learn a lot of stuff about the game.
He's actively making nb better, and you still complain, What i would like to see though is 30 seconds on grim focus otherwise mag nb is at a big disadvantage.
Grim focus useless, gtfo of here with that bs.
He took a purely offensive ability and turned it into defensive ability while removing the primary offense functions. The bow proc is about the same as frags with higher costs and more stringent proc conditions, with even more conditions to make use of the new secondary healing.
It’s awful design
WHAT? So a proc that does upwards of 90k damage is not "offensive enough" anymore, are you serious dude?
Nb doesn't have a dps problem, this resistance is better than a few more dps that you can get elsewhere.
This ability hardly qualifies as defensive, now it has both offense and defense, it's a good change.
90k in what world? Tooltips barely put it higher than a proc’d frag, already caculated a few posts up.
If its only benifit on initial cast is mitigation, it’s a defensive ability. The whopping 4k dps in a perfect scenario does not an offensive ability make.
The healing is unreliable and the method of stacking mitigation is convoluted for no clear reason.
The idea of stacking mitigation itself isn’t awful, but it’d be better off on a stand your ground class, or hell, stick it on Path. Expedition is useless and Double Take should keep it what with RAT currently being a better, cheaper, more combat oriented version of Double Take. Go full maneuvering on DT, full utility on Path. Give NB something useful for groups that other classes don’t do far better
Yea, you don't know wtf you are talking about,grim focus can hit well over 70k upwards of 100k with bt, in pvp it still hits very hard.
i won't really bother extending this further seen your lack of knowledge.
And you seem to lack anything but complete exaggerations
If you can find a video with a single solitary hit of 90k+ from a Bow proc in it (that isn’t on bugged dummies), then by all means post it. As it stands, you’re talking out your ear trying to justify an out-of-nowhere change that turned a pure offense ability into a mitigation tool with unfitting, unreliable healing stuck onto it
Grim focus could provide all the buffs in the world but as long as it does not provide minor berserk, then people will still complain.
With the Monday changes, grim focus will be better than before, you can still get minor berserk, but you will gain a lot of resistances, so honestly just stop, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous.
And people are calling out gilliam, like, stop, before you get on gilliam level you need to learn a lot of stuff about the game.
He's actively making nb better, and you still complain, What i would like to see though is 30 seconds on grim focus otherwise mag nb is at a big disadvantage.
Grim focus useless, gtfo of here with that bs.
He took a purely offensive ability and turned it into defensive ability while removing the primary offense functions. The bow proc is about the same as frags with higher costs and more stringent proc conditions, with even more conditions to make use of the new secondary healing.
It’s awful design
WHAT? So a proc that does upwards of 90k damage is not "offensive enough" anymore, are you serious dude?
Nb doesn't have a dps problem, this resistance is better than a few more dps that you can get elsewhere.
This ability hardly qualifies as defensive, now it has both offense and defense, it's a good change.
90k in what world? Tooltips barely put it higher than a proc’d frag, already caculated a few posts up.
If its only benifit on initial cast is mitigation, it’s a defensive ability. The whopping 4k dps in a perfect scenario does not an offensive ability make.
The healing is unreliable and the method of stacking mitigation is convoluted for no clear reason.
The idea of stacking mitigation itself isn’t awful, but it’d be better off on a stand your ground class, or hell, stick it on Path. Expedition is useless and Double Take should keep it what with RAT currently being a better, cheaper, more combat oriented version of Double Take. Go full maneuvering on DT, full utility on Path. Give NB something useful for groups that other classes don’t do far better
Yea, you don't know wtf you are talking about,grim focus can hit well over 70k upwards of 100k with bt, in pvp it still hits very hard.
i won't really bother extending this further seen your lack of knowledge.
And you seem to lack anything but complete exaggerations
If you can find a video with a single solitary hit of 90k+ from a Bow proc in it (that isn’t on bugged dummies), then by all means post it. As it stands, you’re talking out your ear trying to justify an out-of-nowhere change that turned a pure offense ability into a mitigation tool with unfitting, unreliable healing stuck onto it
The dummies actually lack alkosh and crusher infused, they bug also only applied for fire damage, and pets on the first week, so again you don;t know... wtf you are talking about.
You would get even more damage if the dummies were not bugged currently.
Grim focus could provide all the buffs in the world but as long as it does not provide minor berserk, then people will still complain.
With the Monday changes, grim focus will be better than before, you can still get minor berserk, but you will gain a lot of resistances, so honestly just stop, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous.
And people are calling out gilliam, like, stop, before you get on gilliam level you need to learn a lot of stuff about the game.
He's actively making nb better, and you still complain, What i would like to see though is 30 seconds on grim focus otherwise mag nb is at a big disadvantage.
Grim focus useless, gtfo of here with that bs.
He took a purely offensive ability and turned it into defensive ability while removing the primary offense functions. The bow proc is about the same as frags with higher costs and more stringent proc conditions, with even more conditions to make use of the new secondary healing.
It’s awful design
WHAT? So a proc that does upwards of 90k damage is not "offensive enough" anymore, are you serious dude?
Nb doesn't have a dps problem, this resistance is better than a few more dps that you can get elsewhere.
This ability hardly qualifies as defensive, now it has both offense and defense, it's a good change.
90k in what world? Tooltips barely put it higher than a proc’d frag, already caculated a few posts up.
If its only benifit on initial cast is mitigation, it’s a defensive ability. The whopping 4k dps in a perfect scenario does not an offensive ability make.
The healing is unreliable and the method of stacking mitigation is convoluted for no clear reason.
The idea of stacking mitigation itself isn’t awful, but it’d be better off on a stand your ground class, or hell, stick it on Path. Expedition is useless and Double Take should keep it what with RAT currently being a better, cheaper, more combat oriented version of Double Take. Go full maneuvering on DT, full utility on Path. Give NB something useful for groups that other classes don’t do far better
Yea, you don't know wtf you are talking about,grim focus can hit well over 70k upwards of 100k with bt, in pvp it still hits very hard.
i won't really bother extending this further seen your lack of knowledge.
And you seem to lack anything but complete exaggerations
If you can find a video with a single solitary hit of 90k+ from a Bow proc in it (that isn’t on bugged dummies), then by all means post it. As it stands, you’re talking out your ear trying to justify an out-of-nowhere change that turned a pure offense ability into a mitigation tool with unfitting, unreliable healing stuck onto it
The dummies actually lack alkosh and crusher infused, they bug also only applied for fire damage, and pets on the first week, so again you don;t know... wtf you are talking about.
You would get even more damage if the dummies were not bugged currently.
So that’s a no then? You don’t have any evidence of these 90k bow shots
Grim focus could provide all the buffs in the world but as long as it does not provide minor berserk, then people will still complain.
With the Monday changes, grim focus will be better than before, you can still get minor berserk, but you will gain a lot of resistances, so honestly just stop, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous.
And people are calling out gilliam, like, stop, before you get on gilliam level you need to learn a lot of stuff about the game.
He's actively making nb better, and you still complain, What i would like to see though is 30 seconds on grim focus otherwise mag nb is at a big disadvantage.
Grim focus useless, gtfo of here with that bs.
He took a purely offensive ability and turned it into defensive ability while removing the primary offense functions. The bow proc is about the same as frags with higher costs and more stringent proc conditions, with even more conditions to make use of the new secondary healing.
It’s awful design
WHAT? So a proc that does upwards of 90k damage is not "offensive enough" anymore, are you serious dude?
Nb doesn't have a dps problem, this resistance is better than a few more dps that you can get elsewhere.
This ability hardly qualifies as defensive, now it has both offense and defense, it's a good change.
90k in what world? Tooltips barely put it higher than a proc’d frag, already caculated a few posts up.
If its only benifit on initial cast is mitigation, it’s a defensive ability. The whopping 4k dps in a perfect scenario does not an offensive ability make.
The healing is unreliable and the method of stacking mitigation is convoluted for no clear reason.
The idea of stacking mitigation itself isn’t awful, but it’d be better off on a stand your ground class, or hell, stick it on Path. Expedition is useless and Double Take should keep it what with RAT currently being a better, cheaper, more combat oriented version of Double Take. Go full maneuvering on DT, full utility on Path. Give NB something useful for groups that other classes don’t do far better
Yea, you don't know wtf you are talking about,grim focus can hit well over 70k upwards of 100k with bt, in pvp it still hits very hard.
i won't really bother extending this further seen your lack of knowledge.
And you seem to lack anything but complete exaggerations
If you can find a video with a single solitary hit of 90k+ from a Bow proc in it (that isn’t on bugged dummies), then by all means post it. As it stands, you’re talking out your ear trying to justify an out-of-nowhere change that turned a pure offense ability into a mitigation tool with unfitting, unreliable healing stuck onto it
The dummies actually lack alkosh and crusher infused, they bug also only applied for fire damage, and pets on the first week, so again you don;t know... wtf you are talking about.
You would get even more damage if the dummies were not bugged currently.
So that’s a no then? You don’t have any evidence of these 90k bow shots
You want your evidence?
Fine, here it is.
https://imgur.com/a/CiUHc3M
And this isn't even the upper limit of dps for nb, you could do much more.
Remove about 8 to 9k from killer's blade max hit and you have your max hit for focus, which is well over 90k, i just didn't use it during execute.
Grim focus could provide all the buffs in the world but as long as it does not provide minor berserk, then people will still complain.
With the Monday changes, grim focus will be better than before, you can still get minor berserk, but you will gain a lot of resistances, so honestly just stop, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous.
And people are calling out gilliam, like, stop, before you get on gilliam level you need to learn a lot of stuff about the game.
He's actively making nb better, and you still complain, What i would like to see though is 30 seconds on grim focus otherwise mag nb is at a big disadvantage.
Grim focus useless, gtfo of here with that bs.
He took a purely offensive ability and turned it into defensive ability while removing the primary offense functions. The bow proc is about the same as frags with higher costs and more stringent proc conditions, with even more conditions to make use of the new secondary healing.
It’s awful design
WHAT? So a proc that does upwards of 90k damage is not "offensive enough" anymore, are you serious dude?
Nb doesn't have a dps problem, this resistance is better than a few more dps that you can get elsewhere.
This ability hardly qualifies as defensive, now it has both offense and defense, it's a good change.
90k in what world? Tooltips barely put it higher than a proc’d frag, already caculated a few posts up.
If its only benifit on initial cast is mitigation, it’s a defensive ability. The whopping 4k dps in a perfect scenario does not an offensive ability make.
The healing is unreliable and the method of stacking mitigation is convoluted for no clear reason.
The idea of stacking mitigation itself isn’t awful, but it’d be better off on a stand your ground class, or hell, stick it on Path. Expedition is useless and Double Take should keep it what with RAT currently being a better, cheaper, more combat oriented version of Double Take. Go full maneuvering on DT, full utility on Path. Give NB something useful for groups that other classes don’t do far better
Yea, you don't know wtf you are talking about,grim focus can hit well over 70k upwards of 100k with bt, in pvp it still hits very hard.
i won't really bother extending this further seen your lack of knowledge.
And you seem to lack anything but complete exaggerations
If you can find a video with a single solitary hit of 90k+ from a Bow proc in it (that isn’t on bugged dummies), then by all means post it. As it stands, you’re talking out your ear trying to justify an out-of-nowhere change that turned a pure offense ability into a mitigation tool with unfitting, unreliable healing stuck onto it
The dummies actually lack alkosh and crusher infused, they bug also only applied for fire damage, and pets on the first week, so again you don;t know... wtf you are talking about.
You would get even more damage if the dummies were not bugged currently.
So that’s a no then? You don’t have any evidence of these 90k bow shots
You want your evidence?
Fine, here it is.
https://imgur.com/a/CiUHc3M
And this isn't even the upper limit of dps for nb, you could do much more.
Remove about 8 to 9k from killer's blade max hit and you have your max hit for focus, which is well over 90k, i just didn't use it during execute.
Well I suppose I stand corrected when every buff in the game has 100% uptime, which is heavily questionable in its own right. I sense other classes would have much the same overblown tooltip/damage discrepancies in those scenarios, of course I’ll go look for the Sorc parses myself.
zParallaxz wrote: »This class still has one the “secret character” abilities that allows you to hit your opponent regardless of what direction your character faces. Aka being able to surprise attack someone who has rooted you and is directly behind you.
False, you can’t hit abilities such as frags or the first hit flame lash if your opponent is directly behind you. Not to long ago surprise attack and soul harvest went through dodge roll which was unintended.zParallaxz wrote: »This class still has one the “secret character” abilities that allows you to hit your opponent regardless of what direction your character faces. Aka being able to surprise attack someone who has rooted you and is directly behind you.
Heh, wonder when this guy is gonna realise that any targeted or directional ability can be aimed behind you when rooted, as long as you take your fingers off the movement keys and only swivel your camera.