The new Dummy isn't still bugged, correct?

Azyle1 · April 2019

Testing some Stam Characters I was shocked to find sWarden was the highest. On the dummy, I am at 90K plus, with Stam Necro for me barely hitting 90K ( which makes sense as I may not be using optimal CP and I haven't mastered this yet ).

sBlade, the thing I main on Xbox struggles to scratch 85K now. I am pretty shocked to see sWarden so high. Same sets between sBlade and sWarden (rele/AY). sNecro is using Rele/tooth .

Now, I know sWarden has been pretty close to Blade for a while, but this seems odd.

LiquidPony · April 2019

It's not bugged as far as I know. I mean I'm sure it is bugged but the bugs from v5.0.0 were fixed (100% pet crits and stacking Engulfing Flames).

You may want to try standing behind the dummy on a stamblade to get the 5% armor reduction from Surprise Attack, and you also may want to try modifying the setup/rotation and running Dark Shade (usually in the backbar flex slot) as it does a fair bit of DPS now.

I see stamnecros hitting in the 94-96k range from people in my guild. You can push it to 100k if you are using Lokke and have another synergy to get Major Slayer close to 100% (you can provide your own synergy with Boneyard if you want).

Stamblades, stamDKs, stamdens, stamsorcs all seem to be getting up around 90k (+/- 2k) with stamdens probably parsing a little bit higher than the others (in my experience anyway).

The best stamplar parse I've seen is 86.5k from Liko.

Masel · April 2019

I tested a lot of stuff on the new dummy, and there's a few weird things happening. Firstly, it does not have engulfing flames on currently, it does not have alkosh on, it does not have an infused crusher on it and it has 10190 spell resistance and 7490 physical resistance. I tested the resistance first by using the 2h ultimate on it, and then by increasing my penetration through the CP system step-by step while having 100 points in the blue tree before, and my damage increased until these borders in both spell and physical pen.

Just take that into account when you want to compare damage potential across mag/stam and across classes right now... The debuffs i tested by bashing the boss first to get the buffs and debuffs on, then using an ability, putting the respective debuff on and then hitting the dummy again with the same ability. You can also track these debuffs on it at the moment, while you cannot track major/minor fracture and breach because they're always on with a longer duration already. So testing on it is basically worthless sadly, at least in a multiclass context.

It also explains why magicka parses took a big hit and why stamina parses are overall higher.

JinMori · April 2019

Masel wrote: »

I tested a lot of stuff on the new dummy, and there's a few weird things happening. Firstly, it does not have engulfing flames on currently, it does not have alkosh on, it does not have an infused crusher on it and it has 10190 spell resistance and 7490 physical resistance. I tested the resistance first by using the 2h ultimate on it, and then by increasing my penetration through the CP system step-by step while having 100 points in the blue tree before, and my damage increased until these borders in both spell and physical pen.

Just take that into account when you want to compare damage potential across mag/stam and across classes right now... The debuffs i tested by bashing the boss first to get the buffs and debuffs on, then using an ability, putting the respective debuff on and then hitting the dummy again with the same ability. You can also track these debuffs on it at the moment, while you cannot track major/minor fracture and breach because they're always on with a longer duration already. So testing on it is basically worthless sadly, at least in a multiclass context.

It also explains why magicka parses took a big hit and why stamina parses are overall higher.

I also noticed that they just removed engulfing, so mag parses are below average aside from mag dk, which i got 87k, but i did not think resistances were bugged to that extent, that is like at the very least 15% dps loss.

Masel · April 2019

JinMori wrote: »

Masel wrote: »

I tested a lot of stuff on the new dummy, and there's a few weird things happening. Firstly, it does not have engulfing flames on currently, it does not have alkosh on, it does not have an infused crusher on it and it has 10190 spell resistance and 7490 physical resistance. I tested the resistance first by using the 2h ultimate on it, and then by increasing my penetration through the CP system step-by step while having 100 points in the blue tree before, and my damage increased until these borders in both spell and physical pen.

Just take that into account when you want to compare damage potential across mag/stam and across classes right now... The debuffs i tested by bashing the boss first to get the buffs and debuffs on, then using an ability, putting the respective debuff on and then hitting the dummy again with the same ability. You can also track these debuffs on it at the moment, while you cannot track major/minor fracture and breach because they're always on with a longer duration already. So testing on it is basically worthless sadly, at least in a multiclass context.

It also explains why magicka parses took a big hit and why stamina parses are overall higher.

I also noticed that they just removed engulfing, so mag parses are below average aside from mag dk, which i got 87k, but i did not think resistances were bugged to that extent, that is like at the very least 15% dps loss.

2.7k resistance is 5.4% mitigation. Which fits, cause mag parses are pretty low right now.

87k sounds very high for a mag dk, given that I had a hard time breaking 82k with a standard whip rotation and the highest parse with a lot of optimisation I've seen is 84k. Mind providing that parse so I can see what we are doing differently?

JinMori · April 2019

Masel wrote: »

JinMori wrote: »

Masel wrote: »

I tested a lot of stuff on the new dummy, and there's a few weird things happening. Firstly, it does not have engulfing flames on currently, it does not have alkosh on, it does not have an infused crusher on it and it has 10190 spell resistance and 7490 physical resistance. I tested the resistance first by using the 2h ultimate on it, and then by increasing my penetration through the CP system step-by step while having 100 points in the blue tree before, and my damage increased until these borders in both spell and physical pen.

Just take that into account when you want to compare damage potential across mag/stam and across classes right now... The debuffs i tested by bashing the boss first to get the buffs and debuffs on, then using an ability, putting the respective debuff on and then hitting the dummy again with the same ability. You can also track these debuffs on it at the moment, while you cannot track major/minor fracture and breach because they're always on with a longer duration already. So testing on it is basically worthless sadly, at least in a multiclass context.

It also explains why magicka parses took a big hit and why stamina parses are overall higher.

I also noticed that they just removed engulfing, so mag parses are below average aside from mag dk, which i got 87k, but i did not think resistances were bugged to that extent, that is like at the very least 15% dps loss.

2.7k resistance is 5.4% mitigation. Which fits, cause mag parses are pretty low right now.

87k sounds very high for a mag dk, given that I had a hard time breaking 82k with a standard whip rotation and the highest parse with a lot of optimisation I've seen is 84k. Mind providing that parse so I can see what we are doing differently?

https://imgur.com/a/X2yNXcH
@Masel

Moushen · April 2019

Where do you get this dummy?