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Magicka version of BRIARHEART (Stamina)
Chuaznega
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Hi, I didnt found a thread about this already so I'm coming here asking for some kind of help and/or suggestion, do we have a set for MAGICKA that is similar to Briarheart?
Please dont mention Bahraha's Curse because that one is quite bit different since the enemy must be on the little AoE spot to heal you, and Briarheart heals you wherever you are.
Sorry if this is a duplicate thread, if it is, please link the original/other one here so I can read it.
Thank you!
Edited by Chuaznega on April 27, 2019 12:24PM Please dont mention Bahraha's Curse because that one is quite bit different since the enemy must be on the little AoE spot to heal you, and Briarheart heals you wherever you are.
Sorry if this is a duplicate thread, if it is, please link the original/other one here so I can read it.
Thank you!
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Mashille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No.
Stop giving Magicka and Stamina set equivalents. It's bad enough already that ZOS is printing ANY identical Mag and Stam variants.
If they're just gonna have the same sets that play the same way why even bother having Magicka and Stamina seperate at all, it's dumb that sets are being made the same for both.Edited by Mashille on April 27, 2019 12:39PMHouse Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'14 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No. It would be too strong, esp. considering how many HoTs magicka has. Eh, but what do I know? If ZOS introduces such a set it will be funny...0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Barbara's Curse was exactly the one I was going to mention, LOL. If you use it in content with a bunch of enemies, it works pretty well.
That being said, I don't think we need a magicka equivalent. Most magicka builds have access to self-heals through their classes or the resto staff, while most stamina classes are forced to use Vigor, so it makes sense that their gear can compensate to a degree.
Other vaguely similar sets:
Almalexia's Mercy - healing proc on damage taken
Lamia's Song - healing proc on ultimate
Withered Hand - healing proc on enemy death
I'll note that none of those sets are particularly meta or even very good...probably because magicka DD builds have so many better options for self-heals from their own class skills.3 -
Vuylstekeara✭✭✭✭Not a set, but isn't that pretty much what power surge does? Increased damage and heal when crit. It would be redundant to have it as set or way too powerful if stackable.Edited by Vuylstekeara on April 27, 2019 12:50PM"The paper is balanced, but nerf the rock!"
- The scissors0 -
Everstorm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Vuylstekeara wrote: »Not a set, but isn't that pretty much what power surge does? Increased damage and heal when crit. It would be redundant to have it as set or way too powerful if stackable.
Stamsorcs can stack that just fine.3 -
Jamdarius✭✭✭✭✭No. It would be too strong, esp. considering how many HoTs magicka has. Eh, but what do I know? If ZOS introduces such a set it will be funny...
And stamina doesn't have many DoT's?? True most come from weapon lines but they are out there to bleed enemies to death or spam arrows.
(think you meaned Damage over Time not Heal over Time).
Also 609 health back in case you mean HoT after all is nothing as cyrodil/bg and pvp in general cut this ammount by half so 300 heal and only if you crit.Edited by Jamdarius on April 27, 2019 1:31PM0 -
Valkysas154✭✭✭✭✭Have it on my stamwarden and i can tell you right now it's not going to save your life EVER
you will still need a healing skill on your bar if you need self healing - it also has a 1sec cool down on the heals so it will never go past 609hps
The weapon dmg proc on it is what we use it for
Edited by Valkysas154 on April 27, 2019 2:00PM1 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No. It would be too strong, esp. considering how many HoTs magicka has. Eh, but what do I know? If ZOS introduces such a set it will be funny...
And stamina doesn't have many DoT's?? True most come from weapon lines but they are out there to bleed enemies to death or spam arrows.
(think you meaned Damage over Time not Heal over Time).
Also 609 health back in case you mean HoT after all is nothing as cyrodil/bg and pvp in general cut this ammount by half so 300 heal and only if you crit.
Nope. I meant HoTs. In my opinion magicka doesn't need any more passive healing, but like I said, if the set is introduced we will see who is right about what. Some things only can be shown and proven when said sets exist, and if that set would work anything like Briarheart does on live, it would be even more powerful because of the AoE DoTs nearly every magicka spec has would guarantee you would keep it proc whenever its off CD.
300 HP seems like nothing until you are (a) not taking damage, (b) have a lot of damage reduction, (c) have ways to "pause damage," and (d) have other HoTs, (e) also have lifesteal on enemies, (f) have healing bonuses + cp. On the live server I do something similar with Briarheart, and can tell you that the healing from the set is not as insignificant as people think in practice. In fact if you use it like this...[ static interference ]. Oh what was I saying again? Almost said something that would result in a nerf.
Y-Yeah, maybe you're right! Bring on the magicka Briarheart!Edited by Kadoin on April 27, 2019 1:59PM0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Vuylstekeara wrote: »Not a set, but isn't that pretty much what power surge does? Increased damage and heal when crit. It would be redundant to have it as set or way too powerful if stackable.
Stamsorcs can stack that just fine.
I ran Briarheart on my stamsorc for dungeons before I got Vigor, and it works great as a DPS/Healing set, thanks to the stamsorc AOEs and Crit Surge. I'm not sure how good the uptime is for other stamina classes, or how necessary that would be on a magicka build, since those don't lack for magicka self-heals.0 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭A heavy set like briarheart wouldn’t be very good for magicka. The 5 piece light armour passives are too good. One of the reasons stamina wear heavy is because weapon damage isn’t as good as penetration.
You’re far better off trying to get your mitigation as high as possible in 5 light if pvp’s your thing.Edited by Iskiab on April 27, 2019 3:41PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭A heavy set like briarheart wouldn’t be very good for magicka. The 5 piece light armour passives are too good. One of the reasons stamina wear heavy is because weapon damage isn’t as good as penetration.
You’re far better off trying to get your mitigation as high as possible in 5 light if pvp’s your thing.
Briarheart is medium armor. Pariah is the Wrothgar Heavy armor set.1 -
Vuylstekeara✭✭✭✭Vuylstekeara wrote: »Not a set, but isn't that pretty much what power surge does? Increased damage and heal when crit. It would be redundant to have it as set or way too powerful if stackable.
Stamsorcs can stack that just fine.
The OP was asking for magicka variant. Nevert played a Stamsorc myself, but I take it you are better off with Briarheart than the same set with magicka boosts instead."The paper is balanced, but nerf the rock!"
- The scissors0 -
Czekoludek✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well Scathing Mage is kinda similar. Better % chance to proc, highier damage, chance to have better uptime, cons are it proc only from critical direct dmg and gives you no healing2 -
Chuaznega✭✭
Statching Mage does not heal.You do, it’s called Scathing Mage.
Good point, I guess.VaranisArano wrote: »...That being said, I don't think we need a magicka equivalent. Most magicka builds have access to self-heals through their classes or the resto staff, while most stamina classes are forced to use Vigor, so it makes sense that their gear can compensate to a degree...
Edited by Chuaznega on April 27, 2019 6:26PM0 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Stamina version of lich when you do this.
Trappings of Invigoration?
https://eso-sets.com/set/trappings-of-invigoration
Edit: I guess this would be closer to Warlock than Lich...Edited by Kel on April 27, 2019 7:52PM1
