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About that dungeon finder
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Gralor✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
Some Community Ambassadors would be more suited to bear the title of Company Ambassador instead.Edited by Gralor on April 27, 2019 12:06PM13 -
sionIV✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
This is just twisting words, and I can't believe you actually wrote that. While it is informative, it's sleazy as hell.
A majority of people make use of the dungeon finder to get into dungeons. It is the primary tool to get into dungeons, and if there is an event that requires people to complete dungeons, that playerbase will naturally make use of that tool to get into groups with people so that they can complete the dungeons.
It's like saying: "We have an event where you have to get to different floors in skyscrapers to complete it. Oh by the way, the elevators are all broken. Don't worry though, you can still complete it, as you can climb the stairs!".
This doesn't just effect the event, it also prevents people who want to do their random normal/veteran from doing so.
Edited by sionIV on April 27, 2019 11:44AM8 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
You are playing semantics and ignoring context. It doesn't befit someone bearing the title community ambassador. What @ZOS_RichLambert said was
If you want to be pedantic, no event has ever required the Activity Finder. You didn't have to do Battlegrounds during Midyear Mayhem, you could very well just do Cyrodiil/Imperial City. Therefore, the quote above becomes nonsensical if you use your definition of "require". I believe ZOS as a company are many things, but I don't believe they are completely devoid of intelligence, so they must have meant that they wouldn't hold an event for which people heavily rely on Activity Finder until that tool had been fixed. This has not happened. They failed to do what they set out to do. Spinning this in any other way is disingenuous and aggravating for players affected by it.we will not hold another in-game event that requires the Activity Finder until we are 100% confident that the tool can support it. Stay tuned for details on that.
Then there's context. The Activity Finder has been broken for years. ZOS initially failed to acknowledge the problem, then said they had "thought it had been fixed" when that was clearly not the case in a case of what I can't really qualify as anything other than lying, given the abundance of reports of ongoing issues. Months ago Gina posted that ZOS had plans to ramp up communication - we have seen nothing so far. @ZOS_RichLambert told us to stay tuned for updates - there have been none. The PC/EU server has been buckling under pressure and underwent extended maintenance for what we thought were fixes - nothing seems to have been fixed. In this context, I think you should really be more tactful when you intervene in the forums signing as Community Ambassador. I doubt many people in the community who are affected by these issues feel represented by your post.10 -
Zathras✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
You are playing semantics and ignoring context. It doesn't befit someone bearing the title community ambassador. What @ZOS_RichLambert said was
If you want to be pedantic, no event has ever required the Activity Finder. You didn't have to do Battlegrounds during Midyear Mayhem, you could very well just do Cyrodiil/Imperial City. Therefore, the quote above becomes nonsensical if you use your definition of "require". I believe ZOS as a company are many things, but I don't believe they are completely devoid of intelligence, so they must have meant that they wouldn't hold an event for which people heavily rely on Activity Finder until that tool had been fixed. This has not happened. They failed to do what they set out to do. Spinning this in any other way is disingenuous and aggravating for players affected by it.we will not hold another in-game event that requires the Activity Finder until we are 100% confident that the tool can support it. Stay tuned for details on that.
Then there's context. The Activity Finder has been broken for years. ZOS initially failed to acknowledge the problem, then said they had "thought it had been fixed" when that was clearly not the case in a case of what I can't really qualify as anything other than lying, given the abundance of reports of ongoing issues. Months ago Gina posted that ZOS had plans to ramp up communication - we have seen nothing so far. @ZOS_RichLambert told us to stay tuned for updates - there have been none. The PC/EU server has been buckling under pressure and underwent extended maintenance for what we thought were fixes - nothing seems to have been fixed. In this context, I think you should really be more tactful when you intervene in the forums signing as Community Ambassador. I doubt many people in the community who are affected by these issues feel represented by your post.
I gave you an awesome for that.
My post was going to be along those lines, but you summed up my thoughts perfectly.
As a side note, a lot of people have poked @ZOS_RichLambert in this thread while directly quoting him, and asking for answers. No reply. Also, there has been a complete ball dropping on communication (again) that both he and @ZOS_GinaBruno said would improve. It really does remind me of my SOE and GW2 days, where a large part of their negative company reputation stemmed from managerial arrogance.
@ZOS_GinaBruno admitted to a dearth of communication, with a promise to improve it. Not only have pleas for that improvement gone ignored, you are perpetuating the problem that you guys created in the first place.
@ZOS_RichLambert We have another dungeon event, even after you stated it wouldn't happen unless the Group Finder was improved. There hasn't been any communication along these lines since your community announcement, and here we are yet again with your customers being left in the dark, and dissatisfied with the current state of events.For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. - Douglas Adams
It is a rare mind indeed that can render the hitherto non-existent blindingly obvious. The cry 'I could have thought of that' is a very popular and misleading one, for the fact is that they didn't, and a very significant and revealing fact it is too. - Douglas Adams2 -
Ogou✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
You are playing semantics and ignoring context. It doesn't befit someone bearing the title community ambassador. What @ZOS_RichLambert said was
If you want to be pedantic, no event has ever required the Activity Finder. You didn't have to do Battlegrounds during Midyear Mayhem, you could very well just do Cyrodiil/Imperial City. Therefore, the quote above becomes nonsensical if you use your definition of "require". I believe ZOS as a company are many things, but I don't believe they are completely devoid of intelligence, so they must have meant that they wouldn't hold an event for which people heavily rely on Activity Finder until that tool had been fixed. This has not happened. They failed to do what they set out to do. Spinning this in any other way is disingenuous and aggravating for players affected by it.we will not hold another in-game event that requires the Activity Finder until we are 100% confident that the tool can support it. Stay tuned for details on that.
Then there's context. The Activity Finder has been broken for years. ZOS initially failed to acknowledge the problem, then said they had "thought it had been fixed" when that was clearly not the case in a case of what I can't really qualify as anything other than lying, given the abundance of reports of ongoing issues. Months ago Gina posted that ZOS had plans to ramp up communication - we have seen nothing so far. @ZOS_RichLambert told us to stay tuned for updates - there have been none. The PC/EU server has been buckling under pressure and underwent extended maintenance for what we thought were fixes - nothing seems to have been fixed. In this context, I think you should really be more tactful when you intervene in the forums signing as Community Ambassador. I doubt many people in the community who are affected by these issues feel represented by your post.
Wasn't Rich's post written as a follow-up to the Undaunted event where we'd receive boxes as a reward for our random daily (which does require the use of the dungeon finder)?
From this context @MissBizz 's definition actually seems more accurate to me.0 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
Some Community Ambassadors would be more suited to bear the title of Company Ambassador instead.
Maybe that's your opinion, but I'm reading what Rich wrote as it's written. Do I wish they would actually *fix* the dungeon finder completely, so it would work under heavy load? Absolutely. It would be fantastic! Unfortunately they haven't got there, but I'm not about to say they went against their word either.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord1 -
nolangrady✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
All is well then!
White Knights Unite!
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daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
You are playing semantics and ignoring context. It doesn't befit someone bearing the title community ambassador. What @ZOS_RichLambert said was
If you want to be pedantic, no event has ever required the Activity Finder. You didn't have to do Battlegrounds during Midyear Mayhem, you could very well just do Cyrodiil/Imperial City. Therefore, the quote above becomes nonsensical if you use your definition of "require". I believe ZOS as a company are many things, but I don't believe they are completely devoid of intelligence, so they must have meant that they wouldn't hold an event for which people heavily rely on Activity Finder until that tool had been fixed. This has not happened. They failed to do what they set out to do. Spinning this in any other way is disingenuous and aggravating for players affected by it.we will not hold another in-game event that requires the Activity Finder until we are 100% confident that the tool can support it. Stay tuned for details on that.
Then there's context. The Activity Finder has been broken for years. ZOS initially failed to acknowledge the problem, then said they had "thought it had been fixed" when that was clearly not the case in a case of what I can't really qualify as anything other than lying, given the abundance of reports of ongoing issues. Months ago Gina posted that ZOS had plans to ramp up communication - we have seen nothing so far. @ZOS_RichLambert told us to stay tuned for updates - there have been none. The PC/EU server has been buckling under pressure and underwent extended maintenance for what we thought were fixes - nothing seems to have been fixed. In this context, I think you should really be more tactful when you intervene in the forums signing as Community Ambassador. I doubt many people in the community who are affected by these issues feel represented by your post.
Wasn't Rich's post written as a follow-up to the Undaunted event where we'd receive boxes as a reward for our random daily (which does require the use of the dungeon finder)?
From this context @MissBizz 's definition actually seems more accurate to me.
You only need the group finder for the mystery reward box, not for the event tickets, which came from killing the last boss in a dungeon, with or without group finder. So strictly speaking, the tool is never absolutely required. Yet many people rely on it for all group dungeons and battlegrounds.
Even conceding that they kept their word, what does it say about the game that the tool isn't fixed and we haven't received any updates?2 -
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✭We had this issue when in a full group. A guild group formed to run all the Undaunted dungeon dailies and it would not let us port to the dungeon, it kept saying someone declined. Nope, no one did. So we ported to the closest wayshrine and walked in.The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls. ~Pablo Picasso1 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wildberryjack wrote: »We had this issue when in a full group. A guild group formed to run all the Undaunted dungeon dailies and it would not let us port to the dungeon, it kept saying someone declined. Nope, no one did. So we ported to the closest wayshrine and walked in.
You can also use a wayshrine to teleport INSIDE a group dungeon. Just select it as you would any other destination wayshrine.0 -
Ogou✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
You are playing semantics and ignoring context. It doesn't befit someone bearing the title community ambassador. What @ZOS_RichLambert said was
If you want to be pedantic, no event has ever required the Activity Finder. You didn't have to do Battlegrounds during Midyear Mayhem, you could very well just do Cyrodiil/Imperial City. Therefore, the quote above becomes nonsensical if you use your definition of "require". I believe ZOS as a company are many things, but I don't believe they are completely devoid of intelligence, so they must have meant that they wouldn't hold an event for which people heavily rely on Activity Finder until that tool had been fixed. This has not happened. They failed to do what they set out to do. Spinning this in any other way is disingenuous and aggravating for players affected by it.we will not hold another in-game event that requires the Activity Finder until we are 100% confident that the tool can support it. Stay tuned for details on that.
Then there's context. The Activity Finder has been broken for years. ZOS initially failed to acknowledge the problem, then said they had "thought it had been fixed" when that was clearly not the case in a case of what I can't really qualify as anything other than lying, given the abundance of reports of ongoing issues. Months ago Gina posted that ZOS had plans to ramp up communication - we have seen nothing so far. @ZOS_RichLambert told us to stay tuned for updates - there have been none. The PC/EU server has been buckling under pressure and underwent extended maintenance for what we thought were fixes - nothing seems to have been fixed. In this context, I think you should really be more tactful when you intervene in the forums signing as Community Ambassador. I doubt many people in the community who are affected by these issues feel represented by your post.
Wasn't Rich's post written as a follow-up to the Undaunted event where we'd receive boxes as a reward for our random daily (which does require the use of the dungeon finder)?
From this context @MissBizz 's definition actually seems more accurate to me.
You only need the group finder for the mystery reward box, not for the event tickets, which came from killing the last boss in a dungeon, with or without group finder. So strictly speaking, the tool is never absolutely required. Yet many people rely on it for all group dungeons and battlegrounds.
Even conceding that they kept their word, what does it say about the game that the tool isn't fixed and we haven't received any updates?
I believe that not being able to get the mystery box was the problem.
I totally agree, there are people using the Group Finder for other reasons and those people got shafted and that's not cool.
But knowing ZOS, if they had fixed the Group Finder they would have made a big deal out of it so I took the silence as "yeah, time to lfg in zone chat instead."0 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
Some Community Ambassadors would be more suited to bear the title of Company Ambassador instead.
Maybe that's your opinion, but I'm reading what Rich wrote as it's written. Do I wish they would actually *fix* the dungeon finder completely, so it would work under heavy load? Absolutely. It would be fantastic! Unfortunately they haven't got there, but I'm not about to say they went against their word either.
That's not just his opinion.
I'm not going to pretend I know what your role as community ambassador entails, but taking our concerns and trying to sweep them under a rug of twisted double speak? Especially about something being broken since it was introduced? " Haven't got there"?
Really?
I think Gralor's right. Doesn't sound much like you are a community ambassador so much as a company ambassador.
Nail, meet head...Edited by Kel on April 27, 2019 8:05PM4 -
LordTareq✭✭✭✭✭After 20 min...
"Someone declined the invitation..."
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"Someone declined the invitation..."
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"Someone declined the invitation..."
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GO TO HELL!!!!!
This. Force quit the game and won't play the next couple of days. Completely had it with ESO.3 -
Ogou✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
Some Community Ambassadors would be more suited to bear the title of Company Ambassador instead.
Maybe that's your opinion, but I'm reading what Rich wrote as it's written. Do I wish they would actually *fix* the dungeon finder completely, so it would work under heavy load? Absolutely. It would be fantastic! Unfortunately they haven't got there, but I'm not about to say they went against their word either.
That's not just his opinion.
I'm not going to pretend I know what your role as community ambassador entails, but taking our concerns and trying to sweep them under a rug of twisted double speak? Especially about something being broken since it was introduced? " Haven't got there"?
Really?
I think Gralor's right. Doesn't sound much like you are a community ambassador so much as a company ambassador.
Nail, meet head...
It's not twisted double speak to take a statement in its literal sense. And it's not like she said there was no problem either.
I swear, it's like community ambassadors or class reps are never allowed to say anything.1 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
Some Community Ambassadors would be more suited to bear the title of Company Ambassador instead.
Maybe that's your opinion, but I'm reading what Rich wrote as it's written. Do I wish they would actually *fix* the dungeon finder completely, so it would work under heavy load? Absolutely. It would be fantastic! Unfortunately they haven't got there, but I'm not about to say they went against their word either.
That's not just his opinion.
I'm not going to pretend I know what your role as community ambassador entails, but taking our concerns and trying to sweep them under a rug of twisted double speak? Especially about something being broken since it was introduced? " Haven't got there"?
Really?
I think Gralor's right. Doesn't sound much like you are a community ambassador so much as a company ambassador.
Nail, meet head...
It's not twisted double speak to take a statement in its literal sense. And it's not like she said there was no problem either.
I swear, it's like community ambassadors or class reps are never allowed to say anything.
I'll answer this with other quotes....The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
You are playing semantics and ignoring context. It doesn't befit someone bearing the title community ambassador. What @ZOS_RichLambert said was
If you want to be pedantic, no event has ever required the Activity Finder. You didn't have to do Battlegrounds during Midyear Mayhem, you could very well just do Cyrodiil/Imperial City. Therefore, the quote above becomes nonsensical if you use your definition of "require". I believe ZOS as a company are many things, but I don't believe they are completely devoid of intelligence, so they must have meant that they wouldn't hold an event for which people heavily rely on Activity Finder until that tool had been fixed. This has not happened. They failed to do what they set out to do. Spinning this in any other way is disingenuous and aggravating for players affected by it.we will not hold another in-game event that requires the Activity Finder until we are 100% confident that the tool can support it. Stay tuned for details on that.
Then there's context. The Activity Finder has been broken for years. ZOS initially failed to acknowledge the problem, then said they had "thought it had been fixed" when that was clearly not the case in a case of what I can't really qualify as anything other than lying, given the abundance of reports of ongoing issues. Months ago Gina posted that ZOS had plans to ramp up communication - we have seen nothing so far. @ZOS_RichLambert told us to stay tuned for updates - there have been none. The PC/EU server has been buckling under pressure and underwent extended maintenance for what we thought were fixes - nothing seems to have been fixed. In this context, I think you should really be more tactful when you intervene in the forums signing as Community Ambassador. I doubt many people in the community who are affected by these issues feel represented by your post.
Wasn't Rich's post written as a follow-up to the Undaunted event where we'd receive boxes as a reward for our random daily (which does require the use of the dungeon finder)?
From this context @MissBizz 's definition actually seems more accurate to me.
You only need the group finder for the mystery reward box, not for the event tickets, which came from killing the last boss in a dungeon, with or without group finder. So strictly speaking, the tool is never absolutely required. Yet many people rely on it for all group dungeons and battlegrounds.
Even conceding that they kept their word, what does it say about the game that the tool isn't fixed and we haven't received any updates?The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
This is just twisting words, and I can't believe you actually wrote that. While it is informative, it's sleazy as hell.
A majority of people make use of the dungeon finder to get into dungeons. It is the primary tool to get into dungeons, and if there is an event that requires people to complete dungeons, that playerbase will naturally make use of that tool to get into groups with people so that they can complete the dungeons.
It's like saying: "We have an event where you have to get to different floors in skyscrapers to complete it. Oh by the way, the elevators are all broken. Don't worry though, you can still complete it, as you can climb the stairs!".
This doesn't just effect the event, it also prevents people who want to do their random normal/veteran from doing so.The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
Some Community Ambassadors would be more suited to bear the title of Company Ambassador instead.The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
You are playing semantics and ignoring context. It doesn't befit someone bearing the title community ambassador. What @ZOS_RichLambert said was
If you want to be pedantic, no event has ever required the Activity Finder. You didn't have to do Battlegrounds during Midyear Mayhem, you could very well just do Cyrodiil/Imperial City. Therefore, the quote above becomes nonsensical if you use your definition of "require". I believe ZOS as a company are many things, but I don't believe they are completely devoid of intelligence, so they must have meant that they wouldn't hold an event for which people heavily rely on Activity Finder until that tool had been fixed. This has not happened. They failed to do what they set out to do. Spinning this in any other way is disingenuous and aggravating for players affected by it.we will not hold another in-game event that requires the Activity Finder until we are 100% confident that the tool can support it. Stay tuned for details on that.
Then there's context. The Activity Finder has been broken for years. ZOS initially failed to acknowledge the problem, then said they had "thought it had been fixed" when that was clearly not the case in a case of what I can't really qualify as anything other than lying, given the abundance of reports of ongoing issues. Months ago Gina posted that ZOS had plans to ramp up communication - we have seen nothing so far. @ZOS_RichLambert told us to stay tuned for updates - there have been none. The PC/EU server has been buckling under pressure and underwent extended maintenance for what we thought were fixes - nothing seems to have been fixed. In this context, I think you should really be more tactful when you intervene in the forums signing as Community Ambassador. I doubt many people in the community who are affected by these issues feel represented by your post.
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Has gone exclusively by guild so far. One tried to use finder simply as one in group did not have dlc and you can not use finder for replacement if you did not start with finder after a couple of minutes, we gave up and ported, got an replacement in guild to.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Itzmichi✭✭✭✭✭Group Finder not working is like a given since its been introduced, back in the days MMOs actually required typing in the chat to from groups, I know this sounds crazy but apperantly this works?!?!? 😲😲😲😲Here, have a chill pill 💊!0 -
Na0cho✭✭✭You want it fixed? Stop participating in events until it is. Stop paying for subpar service.
The only thing that will get their attention is less revenue.2 -
nolangrady✭✭✭It's not twisted double speak to take a statement in its literal sense. And it's not like she said there was no problem either.
I swear, it's like community ambassadors or class reps are never allowed to say anything.[/quote]
You are missing the point.... as an ambassador they should communicate significant concerns to those that may listen at ZOS. Clearly the company does a *** poor job communicating and an even worse job at fixing the most glaring issues plaguing this game. When an “ambassador” sweeps the larger issue under the rug it undercuts the playerbase. It is as designed however, as ZOS doesn’t want players that will actually tell them their guar dung stinks.
The only thing keeping ESO from even larger success is Matt and company. As long as those crates keep spitting out the next virtual unicorn or Argonaian *** piercings all is well at ZOS. Most ambassadors are perfectly fine playing along.Edited by nolangrady on April 28, 2019 12:51AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Czekoludek wrote: »ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »As most of you know, the recently completed Undaunted Celebration Event in ESO was plagued with Activity Finder issues. We had similar problems last year, but we thought they were resolved - unfortunately this year the demand once again overwhelmed this particular system, especially during prime-time hours. This led to a really frustrating experience for many of you, so we are going to address the situation by making Mysterious Reward Boxes available during the New Life festival, which starts soon.
This is the way it will work: A Mysterious Reward Box will be given as a bonus reward for completing your first New Life daily quest each day, per account. This means that the first New Life Festival daily you complete on your account will grant one New Life Reward Box, one Event Ticket, and one Mysterious Reward Box. This should help grant you the rewards that you couldn't get through the Activity Finder.
Additionally, we will not hold another in-game event that requires the Activity Finder until we are 100% confident that the tool can support it. Stay tuned for details on that.
Well after almost half a year we have event that for most players is accessible only by dungeon finder. Finder is still broken, communication is still bad. @ZoS any comment on that?
Read their statement more closely. They did not say they would not have an event where the GF issues greatly inconvenienced many players until they had this fixed. They said they would have not have an event that REQUIRED the GF until they had it fixed.
So it seems they could care less if players are inconvenienced by this in an event. Otherwise they would have at least addressed the issue. I keep saying that we keep getting this type of poor management of the game because the same guy who was in charge of the pathetic state of this game at launch is still in charge today.0 -
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Ogou✭✭✭✭✭The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
Some Community Ambassadors would be more suited to bear the title of Company Ambassador instead.
Maybe that's your opinion, but I'm reading what Rich wrote as it's written. Do I wish they would actually *fix* the dungeon finder completely, so it would work under heavy load? Absolutely. It would be fantastic! Unfortunately they haven't got there, but I'm not about to say they went against their word either.
That's not just his opinion.
I'm not going to pretend I know what your role as community ambassador entails, but taking our concerns and trying to sweep them under a rug of twisted double speak? Especially about something being broken since it was introduced? " Haven't got there"?
Really?
I think Gralor's right. Doesn't sound much like you are a community ambassador so much as a company ambassador.
Nail, meet head...
It's not twisted double speak to take a statement in its literal sense. And it's not like she said there was no problem either.
I swear, it's like community ambassadors or class reps are never allowed to say anything.
I'll answer this with other quotes....The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
You are playing semantics and ignoring context. It doesn't befit someone bearing the title community ambassador. What @ZOS_RichLambert said was
If you want to be pedantic, no event has ever required the Activity Finder. You didn't have to do Battlegrounds during Midyear Mayhem, you could very well just do Cyrodiil/Imperial City. Therefore, the quote above becomes nonsensical if you use your definition of "require". I believe ZOS as a company are many things, but I don't believe they are completely devoid of intelligence, so they must have meant that they wouldn't hold an event for which people heavily rely on Activity Finder until that tool had been fixed. This has not happened. They failed to do what they set out to do. Spinning this in any other way is disingenuous and aggravating for players affected by it.we will not hold another in-game event that requires the Activity Finder until we are 100% confident that the tool can support it. Stay tuned for details on that.
Then there's context. The Activity Finder has been broken for years. ZOS initially failed to acknowledge the problem, then said they had "thought it had been fixed" when that was clearly not the case in a case of what I can't really qualify as anything other than lying, given the abundance of reports of ongoing issues. Months ago Gina posted that ZOS had plans to ramp up communication - we have seen nothing so far. @ZOS_RichLambert told us to stay tuned for updates - there have been none. The PC/EU server has been buckling under pressure and underwent extended maintenance for what we thought were fixes - nothing seems to have been fixed. In this context, I think you should really be more tactful when you intervene in the forums signing as Community Ambassador. I doubt many people in the community who are affected by these issues feel represented by your post.
Wasn't Rich's post written as a follow-up to the Undaunted event where we'd receive boxes as a reward for our random daily (which does require the use of the dungeon finder)?
From this context @MissBizz 's definition actually seems more accurate to me.
You only need the group finder for the mystery reward box, not for the event tickets, which came from killing the last boss in a dungeon, with or without group finder. So strictly speaking, the tool is never absolutely required. Yet many people rely on it for all group dungeons and battlegrounds.
Even conceding that they kept their word, what does it say about the game that the tool isn't fixed and we haven't received any updates?The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
This is just twisting words, and I can't believe you actually wrote that. While it is informative, it's sleazy as hell.
A majority of people make use of the dungeon finder to get into dungeons. It is the primary tool to get into dungeons, and if there is an event that requires people to complete dungeons, that playerbase will naturally make use of that tool to get into groups with people so that they can complete the dungeons.
It's like saying: "We have an event where you have to get to different floors in skyscrapers to complete it. Oh by the way, the elevators are all broken. Don't worry though, you can still complete it, as you can climb the stairs!".
This doesn't just effect the event, it also prevents people who want to do their random normal/veteran from doing so.The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
Some Community Ambassadors would be more suited to bear the title of Company Ambassador instead.The event doesn't depend on it. Even for those without regular groups can still group up in zone chat and port in manually.
They held their word. It's not 100% fixed, so the event doesn't require it. Kinda like how on the pts they are currently testing a new version of dungeon event that only requires killing the final boss. No dungeon finder.
You are playing semantics and ignoring context. It doesn't befit someone bearing the title community ambassador. What @ZOS_RichLambert said was
If you want to be pedantic, no event has ever required the Activity Finder. You didn't have to do Battlegrounds during Midyear Mayhem, you could very well just do Cyrodiil/Imperial City. Therefore, the quote above becomes nonsensical if you use your definition of "require". I believe ZOS as a company are many things, but I don't believe they are completely devoid of intelligence, so they must have meant that they wouldn't hold an event for which people heavily rely on Activity Finder until that tool had been fixed. This has not happened. They failed to do what they set out to do. Spinning this in any other way is disingenuous and aggravating for players affected by it.we will not hold another in-game event that requires the Activity Finder until we are 100% confident that the tool can support it. Stay tuned for details on that.
Then there's context. The Activity Finder has been broken for years. ZOS initially failed to acknowledge the problem, then said they had "thought it had been fixed" when that was clearly not the case in a case of what I can't really qualify as anything other than lying, given the abundance of reports of ongoing issues. Months ago Gina posted that ZOS had plans to ramp up communication - we have seen nothing so far. @ZOS_RichLambert told us to stay tuned for updates - there have been none. The PC/EU server has been buckling under pressure and underwent extended maintenance for what we thought were fixes - nothing seems to have been fixed. In this context, I think you should really be more tactful when you intervene in the forums signing as Community Ambassador. I doubt many people in the community who are affected by these issues feel represented by your post.
Repeating something doesn't make it true though. Her point was that ZOS technically did keep their word on not having any more event that requires the group finder.
Show me how the current event requires (as in no other alternatives) the group finder and I will concede that you are correct.
If you can't then I would suggest you direct you're frustration to the actual culprit (ZOS) and not to the person who tried to explain to you how ZOS was looking at the issue.0 -
Ogou✭✭✭✭✭nolangrady wrote: »It's not twisted double speak to take a statement in its literal sense. And it's not like she said there was no problem either.
I swear, it's like community ambassadors or class reps are never allowed to say anything.
You are missing the point.... as an ambassador they should communicate significant concerns to those that may listen at ZOS. Clearly the company does a *** poor job communicating and an even worse job at fixing the most glaring issues plaguing this game. When an “ambassador” sweeps the larger issue under the rug it undercuts the playerbase. It is as designed however, as ZOS doesn’t want players that will actually tell them their guar dung stinks.
The only thing keeping ESO from even larger success is Matt and company. As long as those crates keep spitting out the next virtual unicorn or Argonaian *** piercings all is well at ZOS. Most ambassadors are perfectly fine playing along.
Have the Ambassadors not communicated the concern? Do you think ZOS is not aware of the state the group finder is? Do you think that as soon as an ambassador brings up a problem to ZOS that problem is going to magically disappear?
If you answered no to all of those questions then why are you attacking a community ambassador for telling you what ZOS' thinking was?
Also, how is her statement sweeping the issue under the rug? It's not like she said the issue didn't exist.Edited by Ogou on April 28, 2019 7:52AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭And we wonder why ZOS don’t bother to comment on the forums.
Someone tries to provide some accurate clarification and all they get is abuse.
Just because YOU don’t like the facts, doesn’t make them any less true. And have the maturity to recognise that the messenger is not the message.
Yes, group finder is still broken. No, it’s not required for any part of this week’s event.
Knowing that it doesn’t work and know that they’ve said they won’t use it for an event until it’s fixed is probably the reason why ZOS have arranged for the boxes to be given out by quest givers.1
