Lol cause most of those farmers cant 1vx or 1v1 any competent pvp player so they resort to pvers who for the most part arent specced anything that helps with their defense or offense and have no idea how to fight back

I tried it on my pve trials toons and got sick of the interruptions so me and several friends brought our pvp toons and whopped most of the farmers and cowards they are, went somewhere else

I'm not sure what's real anymore.

But I do really enjoy this thread.

if u r getting ganked return the favour

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Why do you think a lot of players have been asking for a pve version of Cyrodiil for years?!

I'm ok with it BUT all the events will be done into the pvp version.
How does it sound?

Katahdin wrote: »

Ive been doing the quests in my PvP gear. Im not a pro player but Im not terrible.
Ive been farming the farmers when I can and I help the PvEers kill the gankers when Im in the town.
The gankers seem to be surprised when they are getting ganked in return.
Many of them start to run out of the town once they get confronted with another PvP player and a mob of angry PvEers chasing them down.

Yup! Most of the time the kind of people going into quest towns either want to capture it so they can quest or they want to farm AP from pvers. They aren't really expecting a fair fight and they run away to go get more friends if they have pvpers in towns whooping their ass. The pvers all turn to light attack them usually as well bc they're ruining their box collecting 😂

Reverb wrote: »

It’s worth noting that I’ve found much more toxicity amongst elite pve circles than I’ve seen from pvp players. Every social grouping has aholes, if you judge an entire community by them, that’s on you.

Perfectly said @Reverb

rez0055 wrote: »

You can easily avoid these pvpers. And 1vxing is toxic? I find t-bagging, name-shaming and whining all the time toxic. 1vxing is part of the game, been in the game since 2014. Dont like it? You can follow a zerg until the skilled player is dead or play bg’s or pve. Plenty of options.

You can't "easily avoid" the PvPers when they can outrun you and kill you before you even realize you're being attacked. You can't "easily avoid" them when they constantly run back and forth between the quest givers, so even approaching invis or stealthed doesn't do you any good because you're brought out of invis/stealth to interact with people. This isn't 1vX'ing, that's something completely different. This is people literally just deciding to make life difficult for other players because 'lol'. You must be getting this thread confused with normal PvP where people are actively running between objectives and fights, because there is no zerg when it comes to just running quests at the hubs.

LordTareq wrote: »

Bloody carebears. So you get killed a couple of times by lame people that aren't true pvp'ers. So what? Do they loot your corpse and steal your items? Does it cost you anything extra compared to dying to a bunch of mobs? Nope, in fact your gear doesn't even get damaged like in PvE. Respawn and try try again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwlWgMTCp8w

When people are getting killed over and over and over and over and over and over by the same no-life ganker deciding to camp a hub for hours...it's not getting killed 'a couple times'. It's having people repeatedly keep others from what they're trying to do, sometimes for hours, and for what? A few laughs? Because it makes them feel good to get maybe 1k AP from taking out a group of PvEers who can't defend themselves or fight back or even run away because they die in two seconds? Your whole 'respawn and try again' thing is the problem; people ARE trying again. And again. And again. And again. And again. Do you see where I'm going with this?

Also, your point about NPCs is a little moot, because they're not set so close to quest givers that they actively prevent you from turning in/picking up quests. Most of them also can't kill you with 2-3 skills. And they can't outrun you, so if you find yourself getting overwhelmed you can run off several feet and the NPCs lose aggro. There's a big difference between being killed by NPCs and being killed by players.

Ash_In_My_Sujamma wrote: »

And I am sick of the toxic attitude of some forum posters towards the pvp community of this game because they can't get what they want when they want it.

It's not about getting what we want when we want it. It's not even about not getting killed. It's about not wanting to be harassed by people who are only in the towns because there are PvEers to hassle.

Here's my thing. How is coming to a town and spending sometimes hours killing people who can't defend themselves or even run away fun? How is it enjoyable? Most of these PvEers have no idea what to do when they're attacked and they die in two or three hits. They don't have time to try to run away or even process wtf is going on. How is it fun to killed players who put up less of a fight than Cyro NPCs? If you really like killing stuff that can't fight back, why not just go farm the NPCs? Oh wait, they don't give you easy AP do they?

And there's another thing. Wouldn't you still get more AP actually following the fights and playing the map? In the same amount of time it takes you to gank 20 PvEers for...idk, what, 2.5k AP, couldn't you have flipped a resource and gotten roughly the same amount of AP or even more? So even if you're not the best PvPer, I'm pretty sure by doing actual PvP objectives you would still get the same AP, if not more, for the same time spent farming PvEers.

And telling people to "lol just get PvP gear" is...come on, let's be realistic. That's some pretty silly advice at best. Getting decent PvP gear in the right traits and redoing your CP and all that...do you really think that's worth the effort to someone who'd be using that stuff for like one or two weeks? Heck, by the time most PvEers could get that gear, the event would probably already be half over. It's like telling PvPers who want to take part in the dungeon events that they need to farm up a solid PvE set that they'll use for a handful of days out of the year. And then what do you do with that gear? Do you stick it in your bank/storage chest to take up room and end up destroying it a month later because you can't remember why you even have it?

Let me end this by saying, again, people aren't complaining about normal PvP (at least not for this particular event). When you get ganked riding between keeps, when you get jumped in a delve, things like that, while annoying, yeah it's normal PvP. That person you gib might be on their way to help against your Alliance, or they might be in that delve to get the boost from killing delve bosses. In just about every other situation it's understandable why people might gank people. But people who are just trying to do quests in the hubs? Do you really think they're out there for some nefarious purpose? If they wanted to PvP they'd be out at the keeps and castles and bridges and choke points and stuff. Purposefully hunting down players who just wanna do their stuff in peace, when real PvP is still happening all across the map, is what people are getting upset about.

Ash_In_My_Sujamma wrote: »

And I am sick of the toxic attitude of some forum posters towards the pvp community of this game because they can't get what they want when they want it.

Tbh, 3 weeks of any dailies would have been much better than 4 weeks of random ones then 1 week of all dailies.

So apparently AD started a zerg/ball group which waited inside Bruma church to use balistas on anyone entering. Why are people being so mean to each other in an anniversary event?

SoLooney wrote: »

Lol cause most of those farmers cant 1vx or 1v1 any competent pvp player so they resort to pvers who for the most part arent specced anything that helps with their defense or offense and have no idea how to fight back

if that was true, then that would mean that those PvPers only play once a Year.

ezio45 wrote: »

Ok first of I want to stay Im not the one getting farmed by these players in towns during this event. I dont play that game, I know better. Ive got a zerg of just pvp guild gms I can call in to deal with people at towns never mind their zergs and guilds.

Nah, what I got a problem with is these 1vxers and full zergs farming pve'er at towns.

There is no such a thing as Pver in cyro. And well its how the PvE event in cyro has been designed, with PvP being the main danger since their is next to no NPC that would kill you.

Its not like if everything else in the game wasn't preventing PvP.

Ratzkifal wrote: »

@Riejael There is fighting with honor, like not using potions in a duel, then there is fighting dirty like line-of-sighting and then there is using balistas indoors to specifically target people who want to do the event.

When I used to play MechWarrior 3 about 22 years ago, there was a honor rule about not legging enemy mechs. You don't leg them, they don't leg you. The reason for this was that in MW2 and MW3 legging a mech was instant destruction. It made the fight quick and anti-climatic. Similar to a potion in a duel draws out the fight too much.

You know what happened? People were removing armor from their legs to invest in heatsinks and weapons. Why not? If the opponent was not going to shoot your legs, why not exploit that? Is that really honorable though?

I didn't think so. So I ordered those within my command structure to indiscriminate leg enemy mechs and being as we were one of the largest units in that community, the no-legging honor rule faded and by MW4, it was nearly gone.

So I don't subscribe to the idea of playing 'fairly' I'll use potions in PVP. I don't give two craps what my opponent thinks of me. If they don't like it, then they can make a choice to avoid. I've made my choice and no amount of name calling, diplomacy, or discussion will dissuade that. My mind was made up before many players here were born.

Its a useless endeavor to try to hold people to 'honor'. They'll follow it as long as it gives them an advantage. They'll exploit it when they can. And they'll drop it the moment it doesn't suit them. I'm not going to waste my time with it. Its over and done with as I said. I'd rather spend my time and effort to the objective at hand. I get far more enjoyment out of that. I know players will do bad things, its expected. So I no longer get shocked or offended when it happens.

I'm no hypocrite though. I treat players exactly how I expect to be treated in return. I don't care if people use potions, or ballistae in annoying locations. None of that bothers me. I consider it emergent gameplay. That's the whole reason the devs put the event in PVP. So this sort of gameplay happens, its for players that want to engage in it.

But as I said in my previous post, this is irrelevent. You can call those players toxic, or dishonorable, or whatever. It doesn't matter, they're not going to change. PVP is what it is. PVP was what it always was. PVP will be what it will always will be.