Ideally balance through both, but nerfs only when absolutely necessary. some seem to believe nerfs are the answer to everything.

I have 9/16 characters, and I'm all for balancing with buffs AND nerfs. as that is how we do it, how it's always been done, and the way it's going to continue.

So, lets do you're imaginary 'balancing' proposal eh? Firstly dmg gets buffed because people complain about not killing anything. then defense will be buffed so people can survive this increased damage, one dmg and defense is increased enough we need to buff healing so it can keep up with defense.

Now you got increased dmg, increased defense and increased healing. Now what has changed? Nothing. Well! we increased X class damage with abit to much to the rest of the dmg classes feels left behind, lets buff them on par with X. now we need to buff defense and healing yet again.

This cycle goes on and on and on for a while. . .

And now everyone and their mother walks trough any veteran hardmode content without ever dropping under 90% health, and oneshotting everything while being naked... GG you broke the game.

There will much more rarely be balance through buffs due to the need to control power creep.

If something is op, leave it alone. Nerf them in other ways to compensate. All classes should be op, then nobody is

What I see from the current 'system' is understandable animosity between the PvE and PvP communities. Given how such things as heavy armor, crit damage, cc work I have always found it absurd to cling to the failed concept of balancing PvE and PvP together. They are two completely separate games and should be balanced accordingly.

Flawed poll makes non-mutually exclusive options ... mutually exclusive, implying a single strategy that ultimate reverts to everything using unarmed combat with 1 ability, or else everyone essentially playing counterstrike with 1 hit headshots.

Productive and nuanced. Carry on.

Its amusing to me that people don't seem to grasp that in order to balance something you need to tone down things that are over-performing just as much as buff things that are under-performing. Just buffing everything only leads to number inflation.

myself and many others have made threads just like these, it does not get listened to and they keep asking for nerfs and spaming nerf request threads.

ESO should continue with both buffs and nerfs. People make most noise about nerfs, creating false perception that all balancing is done using that approach, which simply isn't true.

Alucardo wrote: »

I prefer buffs, but there are some instances where things NEED to be toned down, for example Nightblades. Do you think buffing them would have been a better option? If you say yes then I'm afraid you're wrong.
However, looking at the food nerf (ie: Artaeum, Dubious/Witchmother's), I would have preferred they somehow buffed the more undesirable foods/drinks rather than nerfing these ones.

They are talking about buffing other classes, instead of nerfing nightblade.

Alucardo wrote: »

Sirona_Starr wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

I prefer buffs, but there are some instances where things NEED to be toned down, for example Nightblades. Do you think buffing them would have been a better option? If you say yes then I'm afraid you're wrong.
However, looking at the food nerf (ie: Artaeum, Dubious/Witchmother's), I would have preferred they somehow buffed the more undesirable foods/drinks rather than nerfing these ones.

Or, other classes get buffs to better counter, rather than a nerf to one. It's the same principle that you mentioned in the food - NO one wants the food nerf. Buff some other foods to match with different combos.

Abilities like incap were severely overloaded. With both major defile and 20% increased damage, it was incredibly difficult to recover from such an attack. Pair that with major fracture from their primary spammable and it's no wonder there was so much crying about nbs.
How do you suggest they buff my stam sorc to counter such brutality? I have no increased healing, I have no purge, I have no cloak. If I attempt to streak they will just gap close to finish me off.
Trust me, I've been asking for buffs to my class for years to no avail. If they want to tone down nightblades instead I'll take whatever I can get.

I guess what I'm saying is, every class has a crap skill or two (or many) no one uses. Guild skills do as well. Buff some of the useless/pointless skills into some kind of counter skill - then there is a choice to slot them as a counter instead of some kind of nerf to a skill that people like to use. I've got a nerfed magwarden, (oh, my bear), nerfed Wood Elf, etc. I truly believe there are a lot of skills that are completely useless or rarely used. Make them a usable choice as a counter. I have many toons that have over 80 unused skill points - because why make two crafters, as an example? The skill pool they have to choose from is pretty much set. Nerf those skills, and the toon becomes storage because there are no better skills to pick from. Buffing rarely used skills to provide a counter choice is much better than nerfing the loved skills by each class/race.