They should just make it so you take 50% of the damage (including applied DOTs and AOEs based around the target - like abilities that damage enemies near the target taking the damage) and the other 50% gets reflected back to the caster along with any status/cc/disabling/controlling effects. I'm not sure if the DOTs applied should be halved and the other half reflected back however.

This seems like a decent middle ground where 50% damage is allowed through along with DOTs/target based AOEs, which is what this change does effectively, but everything else is reflected back like before.

Maybe the status effects could just be negated completely so no one receives them? So it's just negating half the damage and reflecting only half the damage back to the caster, whilst still giving the protection from cc/effects it gave before. This would mean the attacker would be punished for attacking someone with wings up, whilst not as harshly - overly punishing them with their own cc/effects - but they'd still be getting damage through.

I do like your idea of making it so each morph works differently for different play styles, and making the reflect a more reactive skill by it being shorter. I don't agree with the cost increase for recasting within a certain time frame if you are reducing the length of the reflect though, I feel it should just retain the limited number of reflects rather than reflecting everything or it would be too good when you are overwhelmed by large groups. This would keep the reflect more suited to duels/smaller scale fights, while providing the 50% damage reduction option for larger group fights.

Zophix wrote: »

I played a few battlegrounds the other day and hardly noticed the 50% damage reduction. I tried out Dragon Fire Scale but there's not enough projectiles for it to do any meaningful damage. I then switched back to Protective Plate for the snare removal but felt completely gimped since the Race Against Time change and ended up taking off wings for Race Against Time.

How much dmg does dragon fire scale do tooltip-wise?

ccmedaddy wrote: »

How much dmg does dragon fire scale do tooltip-wise?

Obviously depends on max magicka and spell damage but mie was about 4-5k tooltip. It's cool when your getting spammed by projectiles but outside of mag NB its not that useful or effective. Really all that has happened is wings have become a tool for countering mag NB builds as I've never seen a heavy projectile build other than mag NB.

@Zophix Thanks. 5k-ish tooltip on a skill that can proc every 0.5 sec with every bow/staff light attack actually sounds pretty strong, at least in theory.

Its good in dueling situations where only one target can attack you, but in cryodil when you are being spammed with projectiles from multiple different targets, I'm not sure how this will work. As far as I know, only one orb can be launched every 0.5 seconds. If there are multiple projectiles from multiple targets, I think only one target will have an orb launched at them.

Will have to test it.

Austinseph1 wrote: »

I don’t know why it should only have pvp morphs, as its pretty much one of the best survival skills for a dk to beat vMA unless you cheese it with a warewolf. DK is already easily the harder class to complete it with and removing a such a valuable tool will just push new players away from the hardest solo content in the game. I honestly wanted to see an extended duration to maybe 8 seconds on one of the morphs since it isn’t technically a damage shield and only works on projectiles (not even all ranged moves). At least then it may be a nice tank utility as well. I will have to test it out in vMA more but At this rate I may have to replace it with something considerably less useful than a reflect.

That is true, in my first vma clears wings was a really big help (those clears are quite some time ago tho so it didnt even have the snare removal), being able to mostly ignore the archers in stage 7 or reflect the attacks of the daedric Titan on the last stage is a huge help, especially if you start out with vma.