RIP NB

anatole1234
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That's some heavy nerfs lel
  • chetter_hummin
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    to bad for mag blade, but stam blade needed those nerfs finally
  • kathandira
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    I've read through it a few times. Can you explain why you think they were "heavily" nerfed?

    Edit: Also, are you referring to PvE or PvP?
    Edited by kathandira on April 15, 2019 7:46PM
    PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc
  • LordTareq
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    Will take some adjusting for sure for stamblades. To be honest I feel the nerfs are a bit too much.
    Thankfully my magblade isn’t affected too much (not getting any deserved buffs though), just my frost staff backbar isn’t so useful anymore. But we adapt!
  • Legendry
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    OMG at last they nerf Nightblades to the ground :)
    I'm so tired of being killed by them in PVP and outparsed in PVE. Hopefully they all jump in the NecroWarden wagon and leave people alone.

    Thank you ZOS, finally!!!
  • OtarTheMad
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    Two Words: Minor Mangle
  • Legendry
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    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    Two Words: Minor Mangle

    Two words for you: Warden Necromancer.
  • Ahlteffour
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    Looking at those NB nerfs like.


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    "Anyone can identify a problem. It takes hard work, dedication, patience and understanding to be a positive part of the solution"
  • KatySpirit
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    As a healer I promise that I will buff all the nightblades in my dungeons with combat prayer, so worry not. You can still be berserk <3

    However, the nerf to nightblade tank is something I want to test, since it seems pretty harsh just reading it. It sounds like it will heal about half as much per second as it does now... also why is having a burst heal bad when every other class has one? I want tanks to have self heals, I don't like to babysit the tanks.
    Tanks: Warden, Nightblade, Dragonknight
    Healers: Nightblade, Templar, Warden, Sorcerer, Dragonknight, Necromancer
    DPS: Magsorc, Magblade, Magplar, MagDK, Stamblade, StamNecro
  • OtarTheMad
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    Legendry wrote: »
    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    Two Words: Minor Mangle

    Two words for you: Warden Necromancer.

    They gave incap minor mangle, that's insane lol. A nice change, be fun to test
  • Odovacar
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    We have our first official RIP nb thread. I was waiting, lol.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Stamblade will be ok.
    Given that other classes receive execute bonuses and necro will be good at execution, magblade is simply useless with this changes. Most difficult rotation with lower aoe dps and comparable ST dps, why bother? Good thing my magblade is dunmer who was stamblade initially. I will just give all my magicka golden gear to my templar and turn magblade back to stamblade.
    Also nightblade tanks are not trash anymore with this changes. Of course sub-par to DK still, but more or less in line with others, especially if bladedps population will vanish entirely. (which might happen cause stamnecro looks so good from what I see).
  • zyk
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    What stands out the most to me is the heal on Assassin's Will is idiotic. One cannot count on this ability to hit. Heals must be reliable to be useful. This is a wasted bonus.

    ZOS is clueless about Magblade. Without the forum presence of other classes, we always have to swallow these bad changes.

    I seriously resent ZOS devs.
  • Thanatos_inside
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    Full wardens and necros group in pvp/ ty zos nb really trash now
    PS: cloak op nerf
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Goodbye Nightblade class. I will miss you
    (no, I am not a bow-tard ganker. I dont even do PvP that much. I am (or I was) one of the last hybrid NB out there) :'(
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  • TequilaFire
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    Let's see,

    Surprise Attack - I use Rendering Slashes.
    Incapacitating Strike - I use DBOS
    Fear - finally they will hold still for the kill, might even slot it now.
    Shadowy Disguise - no changes but I prefer slotting Deadly Cloak in it's place.

    I think my stamblade will be just fine.
  • Legendry
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    Then only change to NB I don't agree with is giving NB a super powerful heal. I mean, they hit me for 20k assasins scourge all the time in Cyro and now they're getting like a 10k heal out of that?

    Come on ZOS, what are you thinking? You cannot give NB's a heal like that, it's crazy.

    And I feel like the real issue hasn't been adressed: Cloak. Cloak is too OP, nerf cloak pls!!!
  • SpacemanSpiff1
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    Legendry wrote: »
    Then only change to NB I don't agree with is giving NB a super powerful heal. I mean, they hit me for 20k assasins scourge all the time in Cyro and now they're getting like a 10k heal out of that?

    Come on ZOS, what are you thinking? You cannot give NB's a heal like that, it's crazy.

    And I feel like the real issue hasn't been adressed: Cloak. Cloak is too OP, nerf cloak pls!!!

    there are plenty of counters to cloak.
  • Marcus_Thracius
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    no more snipe spammers
    finally
  • zyk
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    Legendry wrote: »
    Then only change to NB I don't agree with is giving NB a super powerful heal. I mean, they hit me for 20k assasins scourge all the time in Cyro and now they're getting like a 10k heal out of that?

    Come on ZOS, what are you thinking? You cannot give NB's a heal like that, it's crazy.

    And I feel like the real issue hasn't been adressed: Cloak. Cloak is too OP, nerf cloak pls!!!

    I bet this guy buys a lot of crowns.
  • HEBREWHAMMERRR
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    So I’m losing 8% flat damage to an already gimped PvP magblade class. ZOS solution is to give me a 7-9k heal that requires me to light attack 4 times and pull off a cc to guarantee my bow proc lands. Lol

    Edit : OH! And be within 7 meters of my target! Get a clue.
    Edited by HEBREWHAMMERRR on April 15, 2019 8:34PM
  • TequilaFire
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    no more snipe spammers
    finally

    Don't bet on it. lol
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    no more snipe spammers
    finally
    Yep, they will now work in pairs or some stuff like that.. or we will have overload-sorc gankers. Who knows... :o
  • Insco851
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    Legendry wrote: »
    Then only change to NB I don't agree with is giving NB a super powerful heal. I mean, they hit me for 20k assasins scourge all the time in Cyro and now they're getting like a 10k heal out of that?

    Come on ZOS, what are you thinking? You cannot give NB's a heal like that, it's crazy.

    And I feel like the real issue hasn't been adressed: Cloak. Cloak is too OP, nerf cloak pls!!!

    LOL you gotta be kidding.
  • Insco851
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    So I’m losing 8% flat damage to an already gimped PvP magblade class. ZOS solution is to give me a 7-9k heal that requires me to light attack 4 times and pull off a cc to guarantee my bow proc lands. Lol

    Edit : OH! And be within 7 meters of my target! Get a clue.


    Hahaha perfect thinking
  • anatole1234
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    kathandira wrote: »
    I've read through it a few times. Can you explain why you think they were "heavily" nerfed?

    Edit: Also, are you referring to PvE or PvP?

    Referring mostly to stamina NB in PVP but PvE getting hit too from the looks of it
  • Legendry
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    zyk wrote: »
    Legendry wrote: »
    Then only change to NB I don't agree with is giving NB a super powerful heal. I mean, they hit me for 20k assasins scourge all the time in Cyro and now they're getting like a 10k heal out of that?

    Come on ZOS, what are you thinking? You cannot give NB's a heal like that, it's crazy.

    And I feel like the real issue hasn't been adressed: Cloak. Cloak is too OP, nerf cloak pls!!!

    I bet this guy buys a lot of crowns.

    Of course I do. Wouldn't you support this superb team of developers?
    They actually listen to the playerbase. People been pointing out how Over Powered NB's are for years now, and we finally got an answer.
    GG ZOS.

    P.S. Cloak still needs a nerf, then it'll be balanced.
  • anatole1234
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    no more snipe spammers
    finally

    The worst part is that these nerf don't affect snipe spammers, they still have access to minor berserk with camo hunter, they can now spam snipe faster as well. They can now get minor berserk AND minor vulnerability. This is a nerf to open world NB not gankers imo
  • exeeter702
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    Legendry wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Legendry wrote: »
    Then only change to NB I don't agree with is giving NB a super powerful heal. I mean, they hit me for 20k assasins scourge all the time in Cyro and now they're getting like a 10k heal out of that?

    Come on ZOS, what are you thinking? You cannot give NB's a heal like that, it's crazy.

    And I feel like the real issue hasn't been adressed: Cloak. Cloak is too OP, nerf cloak pls!!!

    I bet this guy buys a lot of crowns.

    Of course I do. Wouldn't you support this superb team of developers?
    They actually listen to the playerbase. People been pointing out how Over Powered NB's are for years now, and we finally got an answer.
    GG ZOS.

    P.S. Cloak still needs a nerf, then it'll be balanced.

    You dont have the slightest clue as to what you are talking about.
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