Unofficial DK thread

Onefrkncrzypope · April 2019

So I understand wings will be a hot topic but let's have a more grounded discussion instead of I don't like nerfs. Also an all around DK thread.

satanio · April 2019

Nothing at all.

Sloban · April 2019

MagDK is currently one of the top pvp classes and now they are going to be stronger. IDK why MagDK is being buffed when things like Stamplar, Stamden, MagNB and Magden get no play at all and are clearly inferior in PVP

Rex-Umbra · April 2019

MDK damage has been ridiculously buffed.

Sloban · April 2019

Yeah and 19% heal buff lol. They can already parse down literally any class except Magsorc (which needs a nerf baddddddlyyyyy cause they can tank forever with 1 ability)

Onefrkncrzypope · April 2019

Sloban wrote: »

MagDK is currently one of the top pvp classes and now they are going to be stronger. IDK why MagDK is being buffed when things like Stamplar, Stamden, MagNB and Magden get no play at all and are clearly inferior in PVP

In small scale I can agree but AvA large scale not really. They also lost alot of utility with let loss of reflect. Also witchmothers could be pretty hurtful.

Onefrkncrzypope · April 2019

Sloban wrote: »

Yeah and 19% heal buff lol. They can already parse down literally any class except Magsorc (which needs a nerf baddddddlyyyyy cause they can tank forever with 1 ability)

Yeah heals and resistances buffs aren't really needed anymore on a mdk.

Zekka · April 2019

I expected nothing for stamdks and I'm still disappointed.
Carve as a pseudo spammable is okay I guess, the rest is just ZOS playing with numbers. The change to claw to stop people using it as a spammable in PvE is laughable and the buff to noxious breath... well I guess it's not strictly inferior to ransack now.

Sloban · April 2019

Reflect was broken. The new scales is a buff for outnumbered play which is fine guess. IDK about zerg meta tbh

Onefrkncrzypope · April 2019

Zekka wrote: »

I expected nothing for stamdks and I'm still disappointed.
Carve as a pseudo spammable is okay I guess, the rest is just ZOS playing with numbers. The change to claw to stop people using it as a spammable in PvE is laughable and the buff to noxious breath... well I guess it's not strictly inferior to ransack now.

SDK and Stam Sorc are the bast ards of eso

Sloban · April 2019

Also a suggestion for Corrosive armor is to remove the defensive aspect from it and just give the 100% pen. It carries right now (I'm a stamdk main btw)

Onefrkncrzypope · April 2019

Sloban wrote: »

Also a suggestion for Corrosive armor is to remove the defensive aspect from it and just give the 100% pen. It carries right now (I'm a stamdk main btw)

I'ma swap to shield ulti. Everyone thinks relfects are gone now.

Btw watch for the new burst combo chains breath claw whip

Jimmy_The_Fixer · April 2019

A 50% damage reduction for ranged attacks is something that any other class would kill for. It’s a good compromise for losing the reflect.

LonePirate · April 2019

Inhale received a surprising buff with the removal of that six target cap. If you like to leap into a mass of enemy players and have decent sustain, this cap removal is a wonderful gift.

Toc de Malsvi · April 2019

Pretty excited about Cauterize scaling for Stam DK and how that might potentially impact my builds. Noxious getting small buff, so meh. Hardened Armor getting a small buff, also happy about that although I doubt most will think its enough. I'll have to test to see how it works out.

MagDK looks like it could be really dangerous now despite losing reflect. Small buffs across the board pretty much.

Onefrkncrzypope · April 2019

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

A 50% damage reduction for ranged attacks is something that any other class would kill for. It’s a good compromise for losing the reflect.

Projectiles. So it's not everything.

IARTOI · April 2019

Rework on "Molten Whip" is ok. but why no stamina cost? Stam dk need its own class based spammable skill IMO.

Toc de Malsvi · April 2019

Sloban wrote: »

Also a suggestion for Corrosive armor is to remove the defensive aspect from it and just give the 100% pen. It carries right now (I'm a stamdk main btw)

...In duals maybe, if you use it in open world people just disengage/turtle or conversely you have so many dot's on you that you are still struggling to heal through the damage. I'm not saying you cannot get kills, but its way overrated outside of the defense mechanic against high damage skills like Snipe/WB.

Toc de Malsvi · April 2019

Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

A 50% damage reduction for ranged attacks is something that any other class would kill for. It’s a good compromise for losing the reflect.

Projectiles. So it's not everything.

Yeah but it's also magica snare removal so I doubt people drop it even if they feel the 50% reduction to projectiles isn't enough. Although the Psyjic skill will be better for a lot of situations.

Tonnopesce · April 2019

Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »

So I understand wings will be a hot topic but let's have a more grounded discussion instead of I don't like nerfs. Also an all around DK thread.

wing loks like is the only nerf for dk's, have you looked at the nightblade changes? woah...
anyway dont know man... it looks that the new wings that shoots flames + inhale without cap will be pretty strong as a combo.

Onefrkncrzypope · April 2019

Tonnopesce wrote: »

Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »

So I understand wings will be a hot topic but let's have a more grounded discussion instead of I don't like nerfs. Also an all around DK thread.

wing loks like is the only nerf for dk's, have you looked at the nightblade changes? woah...
anyway dont know man... it looks that the new wings that shoots flames + inhale without cap will be pretty strong as a combo.

Inhale is probably going to have to change lol.

satanio · April 2019

Race against time > new wings.

Lol, so, dk got something unique in their class toolkit like half a year ago (snare imunnity) and now they just give it away to everyone, with longer duration and major exp.

Next thing:
Dragon Leap: Increased the radius of this ability and its morphs to 8 meters from 6.5 meters. It also now applies a more aggressive snare to targets it is cast on, to prevent them from being able to outrun the AoE damage when it lands.

How is this working with snare imunnity on? Can anyone test on pts? I'm still downloading...

Toc de Malsvi · April 2019

satanio wrote: »

Race against time > new wings.

Lol, so, dk got something unique in their class toolkit like half a year ago (snare imunnity) and now they just give it away to everyone, with longer duration and major exp.

Next thing:
Dragon Leap: Increased the radius of this ability and its morphs to 8 meters from 6.5 meters. It also now applies a more aggressive snare to targets it is cast on, to prevent them from being able to outrun the AoE damage when it lands.

How is this working with snare imunnity on? Can anyone test on pts? I'm still downloading...

I believe gap closer's by passed snare immunity in the past, I would expect it would behave the same way. But we shall see, it's still incredibly telegraphed and easy to block.

ccmedaddy · April 2019

I'm cautiously optimistic for my magDK. The wings change looks like a buff in outnumbered situations where you need the protection the most, and the new molton whips looks pretty nice too.

I'm gonna have to redo my stamDK from scratch though, since I've been using venomous claw as a spammable which won't be viable anymore. I guess I'll have to start "abusing" heroic slash like everyone else lol.

Ocelot9x · April 2019

That uppercut nerf tho, of course it will be stronger in pve but no one uses 2h outside of pvp.

jaws343 · April 2019

Yeah, Inhale was the biggest takeaway from the DK changes. That buff is insane and I really want it to go live.

BlackMadara · April 2019

The base inferno morph should give major prophesy and savagery, with FoO dealing damage, and Cauterize healing. A stamDK running cauterize still won't get a crit buff, which is a major function of the skill.

D0PAMINE · April 2019

jaws343 wrote: »

Yeah, Inhale was the biggest takeaway from the DK changes. That buff is insane and I really want it to go live.

Im rather excited to test this. It's how I clear trash in my Vet HM duo's. Perfect for clearing out your orbit lol

D0PAMINE · April 2019

ccmedaddy wrote: »

I'm cautiously optimistic for my magDK. The wings change looks like a buff in outnumbered situations where you need the protection the most, and the new molton whips looks pretty nice too.

I'm gonna have to redo my stamDK from scratch though, since I've been using venomous claw as a spammable which won't be viable anymore. I guess I'll have to start "abusing" heroic slash like everyone else lol.

Im curious, for the claw is it not instant anymore? I use both morphs as a spammable and on the mDK, a cheap oh sh*t heal when my resources are gone as it weaves with the LA nicely and returns more than the cost.

WickidMexican · April 2019

Has anyone tested magdk to see how much of a dps increase it is? Im on console...

Onefrkncrzypope · April 2019

WickidMexican wrote: »

Has anyone tested magdk to see how much of a dps increase it is? Im on console...

Hits 21k tooltip but it acts like frags have to have the skill on same bar and you lose the spell damage bonus after whip.