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Should ESO+ players get priority in new EU queue

Zypheran
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Seems like a fair question to debate.
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Should ESO+ players get priority in new EU queue 390 votes

Yes
52%
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No
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  • SorataArisugawa
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    No
    There shouldn't be a queue in the first place!!!
    (as a til today paying player)
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  • FierceSam
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    No
    THERE SHOULD NOT BE A DAMN QUEUE

    ZOS should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves

    (Sure my utter misconception in subbing was that I was paying for a basically adequate server uptime and access)
  • Siohwenoeht
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    No
    If it is truly due to an influx of new players, you don't want to alienate them because they at least paid for the game and may be subs to boot.

    Since no one has any idea how many subs there actually are, then it may not lead to less queue time anyway.

    I'd say the same if it was xbna too.
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  • Alucardo
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    Yes
    As an ESO+ subscriber and whose time is more important than everyone else's, I'd have to say yes
    Edited by Alucardo on April 11, 2019 7:16AM
  • FierceSam
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    No
    Oh and that really would be the utter pinnacle of Pay To Play shiteness

    In Tamriel, all players should be equal
  • Alucardo
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    Yes
    FierceSam wrote: »
    In Tamriel, all players should be equal
    I mean, we're already not. Subscribers get a lot of benefits that non-subs do not. It's nice not having to play Storage simulator thanks to the double bank space, craft bag, double transmute stones. You know what, I even benefit from the exp bonus when grinding a new alt. All of these things will certainly come in handy when the Necro drops.
    If you think we're equal now then you're way off buddy.

    (I was actually being sarcastic about my login queue thing though. I'd rather there be none at all)
  • White wabbit
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    No
    Alucardo wrote: »
    As an ESO+ subscriber and whose time is more important than everyone else's, I'd have to say yes

    As a Eso+ subscriber we shouldn't have any more rights than any other gamer
  • Banana
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    Yes
    NA too. Id like a 100 ping to
  • KoultouraS
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    No
    I think the "NO" option should be in red....
    That would match the political aspect of this *** of a debate better
    Edited by KoultouraS on April 11, 2019 7:34AM
  • FierceSam
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    No
    One of the things MY ESO sub should bring me is the ability to freely interact with everyone who plays the game, regardless of their sub status.

    Any suggestion that people who have already paid for the base game should have their access altered based on ESO+ status (or any other status for that matter) is an offence to all players.

  • Diundriel
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    Yes
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  • Zavijah
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    Yes
    It was stated that this is due to a recent influx of new players.

    Even though it's impossible, I'd love to know the specific numbers - and from which games they came - and why only the EU server, without impacting the NA the same also?

  • OwnerOfSuccuby
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    No
    I think no. They buy the game, and eso + buy game + more options in it. I do not think that must be priority.
    But i think that problem must be fixed in another way as fast as possible !
    People buy the game and they need to play it. New upgrade for server/ne pc/ new channels on it - seporate some load on new PC connected to megaserver what ever. New channels like vivec to serodill. Or some fix - to many lugs in it.

    But we must not wait to play something we buy i think.
  • Gythral
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    No
    There simply should nt be a queue, the server should be scaled to cope & to work at an acceptable (to the players) level, not this stop gap, how long can we not spend the necessary money, solution
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  • TempPlayer
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    No
    Alucardo wrote: »
    As an ESO+ subscriber and whose time is more important than everyone else's, I'd have to say yes

    Then why are you wasting your time, and more importantly your life, in playing game?
  • Tandor
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    No
    Segregation is never a good thing, and in the case of server logins it would split up friends, guildmates and groups if you allowed some players in and kept others out. It wouldn't be as bad as separate servers but it wouldn't be far off.

    Besides which, who is to say whether a subscriber is a greater financial contributor than a non-subscriber? Would you be favoring a new player who's just bought his first month's subscription over a veteran player who's bought every DLC and chapter since launch plus countless crowns?

    Terrible idea.
    Edited by Tandor on April 11, 2019 7:49AM
  • andreasv
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    As an ESO+ subscriber and whose time is more important than everyone else's, I'd have to say yes

    As a Eso+ subscriber we shouldn't have any more rights than any other gamer

    As an ESO+ subscriber you already have the right to store as many crafting materials as you want. Are you willing to give that up to be equal with non subscribers?
  • White wabbit
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    No
    andreasv wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    As an ESO+ subscriber and whose time is more important than everyone else's, I'd have to say yes

    As a Eso+ subscriber we shouldn't have any more rights than any other gamer

    As an ESO+ subscriber you already have the right to store as many crafting materials as you want. Are you willing to give that up to be equal with non subscribers?

    Not what I was trying to imply what I was trying to say just because I subscribe I shouldn't have a right to que jump
  • Alucardo
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    Yes
    Zavijah wrote: »
    Even though it's impossible, I'd love to know the specific numbers - and from which games they came - and why only the EU server, without impacting the NA the same also?
    It's because the NA server is equipped to handle more players. Just the benefits of not running on a toaster in some basement I suppose.
    Edited by Alucardo on April 11, 2019 8:01AM
  • StormeReigns
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    No
    Limiting access to a product that has already been bought and paid in a Pay to Play+Subscription Optional model has and will create more problems versus solving.

    Few games in the past with great potential have done this and it either ended their entire franchise, or to them being barely a shell of their former-self. For example, Defiance (the game that had heavy ties in with the SciFi/SyFy show,) had so much great potential to be a monster in the mmorpg market did this when they went free-to-play "to test the waters." By prioritizing those who opted for subscriptions versus ftp crowd for just a single weekend. It didn't go well, they ended up covering the craptacular storm up, placing blame on random story writers and not the miss informed/greedy executives.
  • Kombinator
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    Yes
    Think of the greater picture. More ESO+ user means more money. If they got more money, then they have better chance to fix the stuff. Not all of your money goes into pockets. Some if it is "rotated" back into the game.
  • AbysmalGhul
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    I remember the first week of release for consoles. I was stuck in queue for exactly 1 week. B)
  • Morgul667
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    Yes
    We should all unsub rather than encourage them to make eso+ a priority
  • Elsonso
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    No
    If it is truly due to an influx of new players

    "Recently, we’ve seen a massive influx of players to ESO especially on the PC-EU server. This influx of players has resulted in some server performance issues for our players on the PC-EU megaserver, especially during prime-time hours."

    There is no honest reason not to believe them.
    Since no one has any idea how many subs there actually are, then it may not lead to less queue time anyway.

    Ballpark, based on various polls, is around 60-75% are ESO Plus. Accurate? Who knows. If that is the case, the queue times would probably not change much.
    Edited by Elsonso on April 11, 2019 8:43AM
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  • LoreToo
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    Yes
    Ofc! Wtb queue spot, can pay 16k crowns
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    Yes
    Sure, why not. I am NOT an ESO+ Subscriber, the NA Queue is pretty short maybe an extra 30 seconds to a minute at most. How bad is it on EU?
  • Elsonso
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    No
    Sure, why not. I am NOT an ESO+ Subscriber, the NA Queue is pretty short maybe an extra 30 seconds to a minute at most. How bad is it on EU?

    I don't know about PS4 and XBox, but I have not had a visible queue on PC NA. For that matter, I frequently log into PC EU for events and have not yet had a visible queue there, either.
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  • NeroBad
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    I won't vote, but whatever they implement (be it public or hidden) I can see many reasons for both. Equality is a good and noble conception, but I have my doubts that in this situation any non ESO+ member would spend more money for such a gesture. ESO+ members would be happier for a better queue, maybe even spend more money, but the "pay to have a much better time" would make this B2P game feel more like a F2P.

    I'm optimistic for the future server upgrade (they confirmed this) even though they should have done it already.
  • wnights
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    Yes
    On one hand, yes. ESO+ are people who support the game financially, some for years even.
    However, there are non ESO+ subscribers that might support the game in a different way: by buying things from crown store, creating content etc.

    So selfish me says yes. But it won't be very correct to actually implement it. I wonder how long the queue will actually be tonight.
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