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Account Wide DLC Achievements 2019
don_kwek
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Lets see what the player wants
Account Wide DLC Achievements 2019 394 votes
Yes
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257 votes
No
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137 votes
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭For achievements where it doesnt matter which character you did it on, like fishing, sure.
For achievements where it matters, like no-death DLC dungeon runs, nope.25 -
Siohwenoeht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoNot enough options op. No PVP achievements and no achievements that are connected to titles. Everything else, no opinion."It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard4 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoSiohwenoeht wrote: »Not enough options op. No PVP achievements and no achievements that are connected to titles. Everything else, no opinion.
Not only is this correct, but motif achievements definitely should not be account-wide (among a host of other achieves that should not be account-wide either).0 -
lelink88✭✭✭NoNo, every single of my character have thier unique story. I don't wan't account Wide Archivent4
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ThanatosXR✭✭✭Can anyone even see them besides you? Lotro did this much better with its deed system1
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Rygonix✭✭✭✭✭NoIt'd be odd for a person who just washed up from Cold Harbour be considered a Silencer or Master Thief without the credentials other than "I knew/am somehow related to a guy!"
Edit: It's odd enough there are characters lower than level 10 waltzing around in Emperor's Regalia.Edited by Rygonix on April 10, 2019 4:18AMCeres Des Mortem-Dark Elf Templar, EP
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Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesThis comes up every so often. The best answer IMO is to leave the achievements exactly like they are for each character, but add an additional account based achievement tab that would show the total progress of all achievements for that account.
I don’t really care about the title issue, but you could certainly remove them from the account wide page and leave them just tied to the character page so you don’t have a bunch of level 10 flawless conquerors running around.
That way nobody can be upset. If you want to treat each toon separately, fine. If you are someone that likes to play a lot of alts, but doesn’t like repeating a lot of content, you can still get a snapshot of your total progress.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on April 10, 2019 4:59AM14 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesAchievements, and everything else tbh once you earn it should be account wide.
Consumeables for the major part which includes all patterns, recipes etc and also traits should be account wide as well1 -
Jadax✭✭YesOne of the many things people have always requested - but eso devs are either too lazy and/or not talented enough to do this.
- Need account-wide achievements so grinding achievements doesn't become a chore.
- Need a website armory so we can follow guild/player achievements without having to login (when travelling etc).
- Need an android/ios app that gives us very basic functionality.1 -
Dosuul✭✭✭YesYou could make 2 groups of achievements.
Account wide and personal.
This would remove achievements from the to do list, you do once only anyway and could add new ones like, do cadwells gold with x chars or kill a boss as healer, tank and DD.
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SaintSubwayy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeseither make all content fairly accessable for every class combo, or make the achievements accountwide
Example....Immortal Redeemer on a DK...you are nearly forced to get your DK into Tanking to be taken in there with it. Since the Content is so meele unfriendly (Not Impossible, but unnecessaril yhard for meeles)
Same goes for vCR+3 or Griphon Heart achievementEdited by SaintSubwayy on April 10, 2019 9:38AMPC EU
vAA HM / vHRC HM / vSO HM / vMoL HM / vHoF HM / vAS HM / vCR HM / vSS HM / vKA HM
Flawless Conqueror / Immortal Redeemer / Dawnbringer / Griphon Heart / Master Angler / Spirit Slayer4 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »For achievements where it doesnt matter which character you did it on, like fishing, sure.
For achievements where it matters, like no-death DLC dungeon runs, nope.
@VaranisArano Why not on those? When you have a new character and someone asks "link your achievement" then you can't do it even though you have the knowledge and skill. You get the rewards on all characters for the challenger achievement anyway.
My preferred solution would be a global achievement system that keeps tracks of local achievements. You got an achievement on character X but not on character Y, though you can still see and link your achievements from character X on character Y.
It would also help with the achievement furniture vendor as it is quite bothersome to keep switching characters just to get to buy all that you are entitled to buy.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.2 -
Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoIts called sampling
I'm not a trained statistician.
However, I've built enough data reports over the years to know that any report simply paints one picture. it's only ever accurate to those using it to support an argument.
Why don't you run a poll on getting 10M gold on your first character, using the 'what the player wants' modelling?
I have two accounts. Why can't my chars on the second account get all my first-account achievements too?
a single-question sample is somewhat biased. And lame.1 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesAndroconium wrote: »Its called sampling
I'm not a trained statistician.
However, I've built enough data reports over the years to know that any report simply paints one picture. it's only ever accurate to those using it to support an argument.
Why don't you run a poll on getting 10M gold on your first character, using the 'what the player wants' modelling?
I have two accounts. Why can't my chars on the second account get all my first-account achievements too?
a single-question sample is somewhat biased. And lame.
Cause account wide means only for that certain account, and how would they know if the 2nd account was really yours or not even if its coming from the same ip?1 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesIt'd be odd for a person who just washed up from Cold Harbour be considered a Silencer or Master Thief without the credentials other than "I knew/am somehow related to a guy!"
Edit: It's odd enough there are characters lower than level 10 waltzing around in Emperor's Regalia.
So, you're saying that no former emperors have ever wound up in Coldharbour... because I can think of one off hand...3 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »For achievements where it doesnt matter which character you did it on, like fishing, sure.
For achievements where it matters, like no-death DLC dungeon runs, nope.
VaranisArano Why not on those? When you have a new character and someone asks "link your achievement" then you can't do it even though you have the knowledge and skill. You get the rewards on all characters for the challenger achievement anyway.
My preferred solution would be a global achievement system that keeps tracks of local achievements. You got an achievement on character X but not on character Y, though you can still see and link your achievements from character X on character Y.
It would also help with the achievement furniture vendor as it is quite bothersome to keep switching characters just to get to buy all that you are entitled to buy.
You seem to prefer a system where achievements demonstrate the achievements of the player, not the player on that particular character.
Some achievements are character dependent. Its quite different to get a no death run on a healer than a tank or DD. I have achievements in PVP on my MagDK that I don't have on my Stam Sorc yet, which is reflective of my experience and performance on those two characters. It's different completing vMA on different classes, etc.
Why should I have access to "link an achievement" that I haven't accomplished yet on that character?
I understand it would be convenient as proof that you the player experienced hard content before, but you haven't done it on that current character. Restricting the ability of linking achievements to ones you've gained on that character is accurate to your experience on that character.
Hence why I argue that achievements should be per character when it matters which character you did the achievement on
I'd be fine with the achievement vendor unlocking account-wide as those are very similar to the cosmetics and collectibles we already unlock as achievement awards, and houses are account wide anyway.Edited by VaranisArano on April 10, 2019 12:13PM3 -
gimpdrb14_ESO✭✭✭✭Yesevery achievement should be account wide no matter the achievement or which toon you did it on.5
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me_ming✭✭✭✭✭Nogimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »every achievement should be account wide no matter the achievement or which toon you did it on.
Why?VaranisArano wrote: »For achievements where it doesnt matter which character you did it on, like fishing, sure.
For achievements where it matters, like no-death DLC dungeon runs, nope.
@VaranisArano Why not on those? When you have a new character and someone asks "link your achievement" then you can't do it even though you have the knowledge and skill. You get the rewards on all characters for the challenger achievement anyway.
My preferred solution would be a global achievement system that keeps tracks of local achievements. You got an achievement on character X but not on character Y, though you can still see and link your achievements from character X on character Y.
It would also help with the achievement furniture vendor as it is quite bothersome to keep switching characters just to get to buy all that you are entitled to buy.
You do know you can link the busts, cosmetics (skins, hats, pets etc) for those said achievements right?
Also just because you did it on one toon doesn't mean you can do it on another. Unless of course, you're running the same race, class, gear etc on those toons. Your mastery on one class/race isn't the same all across all your characters, if you are then you shouldn't have a problem gaining those achievements on all your other toons. It's false advertisement for you to be able to link a no death run on one character with a different race/class when you probably have different mastery in between those classes/races.Edited by me_ming on April 10, 2019 12:47PM"We're heroes, my boon companion, and heroes always win! Let that be a lesson to you."
-Caldwell, "The Final Assault"
"There is always a choice. But you don't get to choose what is true, you only get to choose what you will do about it..."
-Abnur Tharn, "God of Schemes"]2 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoAs I have been saying every other time this came up, IF they would ever do anything in that direction, it will come with a price tag in crowns -just- like they are proposing to do for skyshards!
Still sounds like such a good idea to all you "gimme" people?
I mean, just letting people have stuff account wide does not get ZOS any extra prodit, so why should they? But selling people shortcuts... well, there are those with more money then patience, so... that might come, same as crown store riding lessons, same as crown store crafting research scrolls, same as crown store XP boost scrolls, etc.
You either play for it, or you pay for it!
Or... you do without on this or that alt of yours.
I would definitely say so as well!VaranisArano wrote: »Hence why I argue that achievements should be per character when it matters which character you did the achievement on
I never want to see some new baby character walk out of coldharbour with an "stormproof" title or something like that...
Agreed.VaranisArano wrote: »I'd be fine with the achievement vendor unlocking account-wide as those are very similar to the cosmetics and collectibles we already unlock as achievement awards, and houses are account wide anyway.
Heck, I -still- think the best way would be an "account achievement overview" page, accessible from the character selection screen, where you can see what achievements you unlocked on which character and when. They could move all the dye unlocks there, and let the vendors check that list for stuff availability... even give out extra rewards for multiple achievements (like... reach level 50 with each class, gain special "master adventurer" mount, complete mainstory with each race, gain special "freed soul" pet, reach emperor in every alliance, gain "conoration robes" costume... whatever...)
The titles though should -definitely- only ever stay bound to character achievements. Yes, even the ones that only take determination and time to gain.
Though -some- might get an "paid unlock" -just- like the proposed skyshard mechanic; I could see some "just time spent" titles going that way, though I personally would much rather see lesser versions of those titles. Like... if you want to be "master angler" you have to work for it on every character you want to flaunt it on, but there could be an much easier to get "fisherman" title for RP purposes... I would love to see that sort of thing. (but then, I love using titles for RP purposes, so... duh... I would also spend crowens on "RP purposes only titles", though to be honest, I much rather chase the ones I want through achievements...)0 -
N0TPLAYER2✭✭✭✭✭NoNO
I have 9 master anglers, almost 10. If they had account wide achievements, then my enjoyment of the game would be ruined.
Want them? EARN THEM. If not stick to one character.
Lazy ass gamers of 2019.3 -
Iccotak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭YesVaranisArano wrote: »For achievements where it doesnt matter which character you did it on, like fishing, sure.
For achievements where it matters, like no-death DLC dungeon runs, nope.
^This^
This poll needs more nuance.
There are certain acheivments that I would prefer be account wide and others that pertain to the character I am playing at the time.1 -
don_kwek✭✭✭YesAchievement gained as tank does not have the same meaning as dd.
Because of this, my main can tank, heal or dps just need to keep swapping gear and cp. Which is quite pathetic when i got 7 other toon that can do the same job and would give me more fun exploring other classes freely.
And lets be honest no one even gets the whole achievement, majority doesnt even come close to getting 50% completed on 1 toon. ZOS dont need to be afraid people will leave, the goal post is always moving because there is always new DLC.
At the same time, people will have the freedom to get achievements on whichever toon they want which is an addition not a substraction to the overall game play.
Anyone who has a problem with this is just due to their ego, and their objection wont last.1 -
Iccotak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭YesI would like to see a character specific reward that gives you a character class costume
like the Warden and Necromancer1