Account Wide DLC Achievements 2019

navystylz_ESO

No

I mean some would make sense. But now they finally decided to add the class I always wanted in, I plan to chase full achievements on him. I'm happy that none of my current ones will interfere with that.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

Yes

nobody cares about us completionists

AlnilamE

No

Rev Rielle wrote: »

It's not entirely what you asked, but personally I'd just be happy with basic zone Skyshard and Waypoints being account-wide. It's not really a DLC achievement but more a function based request. Skyshards especially; they're the one thing that turns me - and know some others - off starting a new character: the thought of collecting all those basic (i.e. the ones you go around and absorb) landscape skyshards again.

Well, you'll be able to buy skyshard packs in the Crown Store with Elseweyr, provided that you have unlocked the necessary achievement on at least one character.

Ragnork

No

Those who want account wide achievements - so be it - make it a crown store item. See I am sympathetic to how you want to play the game your way.

If I ask for a story mode in DLC dungeons I am shouted down as a spawn of the devil. I am not allowed to even ask to play the game the way I want to play.

Sad really.

Elsonso

No

Ragnork wrote: »

If I ask for a story mode in DLC dungeons I am shouted down as a spawn of the devil. I am not allowed to even ask to play the game the way I want to play.

The account-wide achievement people are shouted at. There is a special place in Hell for them, too.

There's two sides to a lot of subjects, otherwise there would be no debate. Don't take opposition to ideas personally. Say what you want, clarify it if needed, repeat it when appropriate, and don't worry when people disagree. If you have presented your idea in a manner that can be consumed by ZOS, then you have accomplished what is needed, no matter what direction the debate turns. (Edit: From what I have seen, ZOS is not standing by to see who "wins" to decide what to do. It seems like their interest in the debate is mainly looking for the root problem to see if it is something they are interested in solving. They are less interested in the solutions the players come up with, from what I have heard. Players tend to debate solutions.)

Those who want account wide achievements - so be it - make it a crown store item.

I don't know if ZOS is going to put account-wide achievements in the game. I hope not. Why? My entire game play and reason for being here is to play the game my way, and part of that includes new characters and playing through content that I have already done. That includes levels, achievements, skills, skyshards, horse riding skill, and all that. I like playing the game, and I am in no hurry to finish it.

I know there are people who don't like to do that, but my feeling is that this is almost a binary thing where opposing play styles co-exist in an unsettled state. If it is too easy to just bypass game play, the bulk of the reason for me even being here this long vanishes. If players have to play through a game they have already played to get to the end, then it is too much effort for some players to stay around. Two different play styles that are opposed.

ZOS has the idea that if they put a cash barrier in place, they can share character accomplishments with other characters on the same account. I am sure some people think of this as "greed", but I don't. I see it as a solution that accommodates these different play styles. This game was launched as a character progression game, so there has to be a progression barrier to overcome. Rather than changing the game to not be character progression, they are adding a different barrier.

Do I like that ZOS is doing this sort of stuff? No. I find it quite disappointing. Can I live with it? In theory, yes. I have not seen what they intend to charge for skyshards, so I do not know what value they are placing on in-game effort. If it is too small, I will likely find it more disappointing. As this is the harbinger of things to come, a lot depends on what they do with skyshards.

don_kwek

Yes

The character progression ie; sky shards, mages guild, fighters guild etc would still be the same.
Just the DLC achievement is account wide.

don_kwek

Yes

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

nobody cares about us completionists

QQ

kargen27

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

nobody cares about us completionists

Are you really a completionist if you don't complete everything with each character?

ghastley

No

There's not a lot that I want to be account-wide.

Housing
Costumes
Outfit styles

And that's about the lot. I'd be happy with most trophies being character-bound if they could place them in any home, so the entire crew can put the collection together.

ZeroXFF

Yes

ALL achievements should be account-wide, as well as all the associated titles and everything else that comes with the achievements. It's the player's skills that are measured by the achievements, not the character's story, and that should be reflected by these achievements.

don_kwek

Yes

kargen27 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

nobody cares about us completionists

Are you really a completionist if you don't complete everything with each character?

Name one person with a 100% completion on 1 toon ? ( i don't think it existed yet)

Name one person with a 100% completion on 4 toon ? (Go figure)

Name one person with a 100% completion on 8 toon ?


Name one person with a 100% completion on 12 toon ?

Tandor

No

don_kwek wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

nobody cares about us completionists

Are you really a completionist if you don't complete everything with each character?

Name one person with a 100% completion on 1 toon ? ( i don't think it existed yet)

Name one person with a 100% completion on 4 toon ? (Go figure)

Name one person with a 100% completion on 8 toon ?


Name one person with a 100% completion on 12 toon ?

That's irrelevant. Completionism is something you work towards, and @kargen27 's point was a very valid one. Take Master Angler, for example. There is at least one player with the title earned on a full set of characters. If such players had simply earned the title on one character and automatically received it on all the others it would have lessened the achievement considerably and with it the sense of completionism. It would simply have enabled things to be "completed" more quickly, but not as completely.

Elsonso

No

don_kwek wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

nobody cares about us completionists

Are you really a completionist if you don't complete everything with each character?

Name one person with a 100% completion on 1 toon ? ( i don't think it existed yet)

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/459138/all-in-game-achievements-unlocked/p1

RedTalon

Yes

Makes sense seeing has other things link to a lot of those are account wide

don_kwek

Yes

lordrichter wrote: »

don_kwek wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

nobody cares about us completionists

Are you really a completionist if you don't complete everything with each character?

Name one person with a 100% completion on 1 toon ? ( i don't think it existed yet)

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/459138/all-in-game-achievements-unlocked/p1

One person after 5 years lol and its only going to last few more weeks then he has to push more :P

And hes stuck with one toon all his life. What a restriction to have in a game.

Sirona_Starr

The one achievement type thing I definitely think needs to be unlocked for all toons is Eidetic Memory lorebooks. Too many of them are locked behind areas you cannot go to again, or seem bugged in some fashion. Too many require using them when they are in your inventory before quest turn in, or you don't get credit for it.

An example, the Soggy Note in Khenarthi's Roost for the Clockwork City prologue. My main toon for achievements never got credit for that note, although the prologue and Clockwork City are completely completed. She can't go back and get it.

Or, the Undaunted book that you sign. Somehow she has no credit for it, and cannot sign it at any Undaunted Enclave - all my other toons have both the examples above.

Or all the lorebooks locked inside Sil Var Woad in Summerset - I guess those were supposed to have been read before quest turn in........ but you certainly can't go back in to get them. It's frustrating

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Yes

AlnilamE wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

This comes up every so often. The best answer IMO is to leave the achievements exactly like they are for each character, but add an additional account based achievement tab that would show the total progress of all achievements for that account.

I don’t really care about the title issue, but you could certainly remove them from the account wide page and leave them just tied to the character page so you don’t have a bunch of level 10 flawless conquerors running around.

That way nobody can be upset. If you want to treat each toon separately, fine. If you are someone that likes to play a lot of alts, but doesn’t like repeating a lot of content, you can still get a snapshot of your total progress.

This is what I would support. But a yes/no without such qualifications (ie, that individual character achievements will be left intact) can only get a NO from me.

And this is exactly why I think its the best solution. You obviously care about individual character achievements, as do many others. Personally, I couldn't give 2 you know whats about them. I play way too many alts, and don't particularly like playing content more than once or twice. Also, neither of us are "right" because this is totally a matter of preference. But the beauty of this plan is that nobody can complain.

don_kwek

Yes

65% Pro
35% No

Lets see if we can increase the sample numbers.

WeerW3ir

No

Stop this bull crap. Its not gonna happen.

Tandor

No

don_kwek wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

don_kwek wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

nobody cares about us completionists

Are you really a completionist if you don't complete everything with each character?

Name one person with a 100% completion on 1 toon ? ( i don't think it existed yet)

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/459138/all-in-game-achievements-unlocked/p1

One person after 5 years lol and its only going to last few more weeks then he has to push more :P

And hes stuck with one toon all his life. What a restriction to have in a game.

There's nothing stopping him from creating other characters on a second account or different server. Besides, there's a large number of players in all MMOs who only stick to one character.

abigfishy

Yes

In DCUO they had the best possible system. For achievements that you had done on one character you could pay in game currency to have them counted as done on each alt. You could avoid boring grinds of the same content on multiple characters and decide exactly what toon wanted what achievement with no need of a cash shop at all.

Elsonso

No

don_kwek wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

don_kwek wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

nobody cares about us completionists

Are you really a completionist if you don't complete everything with each character?

Name one person with a 100% completion on 1 toon ? ( i don't think it existed yet)

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/459138/all-in-game-achievements-unlocked/p1

One person after 5 years lol and its only going to last few more weeks then he has to push more :P

And hes stuck with one toon all his life. What a restriction to have in a game.

We will see. When the person comes forward and says that they have done it on two characters. I expect it to happen. However, now we will need to ask them whether they did the skyshard achievements for real or whether they just bought them.

TheShadowScout

No

Sirona_Starr wrote: »

The one achievement type thing I definitely think needs to be unlocked for all toons is Eidetic Memory lorebooks...

Nah.
All that needs is the lorebooks that -are- inaccessible to show up in an accessible place, like the quest area entrace, -just- like they do in other "quest area only" readings, like all that paper scattered around the various fighters and mages guild, or the harborage entrance... this should be refitted for ALL readings that can no longer be accessed when the quest is done, buit that is ALL that is required to fix the issue.

And I am not surprised that there are so many "gimme crowd" whiners who want handouts for their alts... Well, look to the skyshards you will be getting, and tell me how many crowns you would pay for mere -achievements-??? because that would be the only way you could get them, pay-for-shortcut. Anything else is not in the companies interest...
...and i reckon a lot less people would be eager to vote with their wallet on this one, huh?

don_kwek

Yes

Its not like you haven't done that achievement, its jut the way its recorded is on an account level.
This simply helps people who likes to play multiple toon. Some people have more curiosity then others.

Anyway 65 pro 35 nay is a large difference.

I wonder if Dev has anything to say about this topic, the pros and cons of it ?

Ohtimbar

Yes

Make it so.

don_kwek

Yes

If someone say they do not believe in sampling, make sure they draw all their blood when they have a blood test.

aresula

Yes

People care way too much about useless titles. Achievements are earned by the player not the character. Imagine losing all your console trophies just because you decided to play a new game. It's hard to keep track of what character did what and it would be nice to just play all my alts and see a singular progression bar like in WoW. Or literally every other game in existence tbh. Why is ESO the only exception?

richo262

Yes

They should have 2 panels.

1) Achievements
2) Character feats

90% of achievements go account wide
10% of achievements that have titles should be move out of Achievements and moved into a new panel called "Character feats".

So essentially, 100% of achievements go account wide, but just remove titles from achievements and introduce a new panel for titles. Each character has to earn their title.

Achievements that contain a skin and a title should be separated. All characters on the account can with a combined effort fulfill the requirements to unlock the skin, but the individual character will need to do it to fulfill the requirements for title.

I understand that many don't want a level 3 Stormproof running around, I also understand (myself included) that I have no desire to attempt to unlock the skins in DLC dungeons given I have to do all of them on the same character.

Furthermore, with this new Memento unlock system in Elsweyr, I've already consumed 1 of the 10 blankets from the Orcrest Public Dungeon on an alt. RIP.:( Would be nice if that was account wide, reward, and achievement.

Lastly, if Achievements were account wide, they'd mean a lot more. I'd probably aim to hunt them all down. The fact they are not, I've just learned to not care about them... I want to care about them though, especially if they have a skin/personality attached to them.

Tandor

No

aresula wrote: »

People care way too much about useless titles. Achievements are earned by the player not the character. Imagine losing all your console trophies just because you decided to play a new game. It's hard to keep track of what character did what and it would be nice to just play all my alts and see a singular progression bar like in WoW. Or literally every other game in existence tbh. Why is ESO the only exception?

It's not. You're confusing console trophies with predominantly PC-based MMORPGs where each character is separate.

don_kwek

Yes

I've quit the game, let me know if this ever happened.