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Bring Back First (Dawnwood) Indrik (?)

tuxon
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I know almost everything has already been discussed about this, however,

>will the first type of Indrik ever be back?

>why not to simply make previous type of berries available ? (At least for the 5 Years Anniversary)

Because, for example, I don't need any of those Indriks except for the first one (Dawnwood) which I would be glad to evolve now, however, it is not available.
Edited by tuxon on April 10, 2019 9:40AM
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  • SaintSubwayy
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    I would assume the Indriks will come back each Year, but always be the same 4 types.

    Winter / Spring -> Dawnwood

    Spring / Summer -> Louminous

    Summer / Autum -> Whatever Indrik :joy:

    Autum / Winter -> Who Knows Indrik :joy:
    Edited by SaintSubwayy on April 10, 2019 9:47AM
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  • ShellaSunshine
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    I would assume the Indriks will come back each Year, but always be the same 4 types.

    Winter / Spring -> Dawnwood

    Spring / Summer -> Louminous

    Summer / Autum -> Whatever Indrik :joy: ONYX

    Autum / Winter -> Who Knows Indrik :joy: PURE SNOW
    Edited by ShellaSunshine on April 10, 2019 10:04AM
  • Danikat
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    They've been pretty clear in all the announcement that Dawnwood berries would only be available from January - March.

    There is a chance they'll be back next year. ZOS have NOT said that, but they haven't said it won't happen either - they haven't said anything about it at all. Which might mean it's not going to happen, or that they're undecided, or that it will happen but since the point of this system is to get people to actually care about their events they don't want players thinking it's safe to skip them.
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  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    So would it be:

    January-March - Dawnwood
    April-June - Luminous
    July-September - Onyx
    October-December - Pure Snow

    I think. I hope they do return next year, and if they don’t then I hope they sell them in the Crown store someday.
  • Pevey
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    Yeah, I got 3 of the 4 dawnwood berries, and then, you know, life happens. So now I’m not sure whether I should just destroy those 3 to get them out of my inventory.

    Planning to skip the berries from here on. Don’t even care to use the Indrik mounts and don’t need the hassle and the feeling of wasted effort.

    EDIT: This is also the only game I have ever played where you have to closely read every news article to have any idea WTF is going on. There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.
    Edited by Pevey on April 10, 2019 10:35AM
  • therift
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    "There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events."
    Edited by Pevey on April 10, 2019 6:35AM

    It was clear to me from the daily pop-up announcement as well as the login screen announcement. I'm not sure what ZoS could do in addition to that. I know most people probably blow through those announcements, but when the pop-up was introduced, people actually complained about ZoS efforts to make sure players are informed about deadlines.

    Communication is a two-party process: announce and read.
  • starkerealm
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    Pevey wrote: »
    There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    It was in the news articles on this site, multiple times.
  • Destyran
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    I want the black one
  • LadySinflower
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    I hope they come back at some point. I have an alt who didn't exist when dawnwood berries were available. She'll be able to get luminous and the ones going forward, but I'd like her to get dawnwood too at some point.

    I read so many players commenting that the mount is useless or will never be used. I love the indrik and ride that almost exclusively these days. To each his/her own I guess.
  • Ratzkifal
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    A friend of mine completely forgot about the Jester's event. We did all the events before together but now he missed the last berry and only came back to the anniversary, thinking it was the next. Feels really s****y that the work he put into the last 3 events is just gone like that.
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  • VaranisArano
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    therift wrote: »
    "There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events."
    Edited by Pevey on April 10, 2019 6:35AM

    It was clear to me from the daily pop-up announcement as well as the login screen announcement. I'm not sure what ZoS could do in addition to that. I know most people probably blow through those announcements, but when the pop-up was introduced, people actually complained about ZoS efforts to make sure players are informed about deadlines.

    Communication is a two-party process: announce and read.

    IIRC, when the popup was first introduced, we werent complaining about being informed about deadlines.

    We were complaining about getting the pop-up every single time we logged into a new character, selling thing that most of us already owned.

    And lets not pretend that ZOS has been upfront from the beginning with how this Indriik thing works. They haven't. They've dribbled out bits and pieces of info, and still arent informing us about the future of berries.

    That'll all by design. They want the hype. They want people to feel like they are missing out if they don't grind out event tickets. The lack of clarity, the continued threads here asking questions about how parts of the Indriik stuff works - ZOS created that by deliberately choosing to not communicate clearly from the beginning of the indriik's introduction to get people to do events.

    Or possibly I'm attributing to marketing malice what is actually just ZOS making it up as they go along. That's also entirely possible.
  • Pevey
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    Pevey wrote: »
    There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    It was in the news articles on this site, multiple times.

    Yes, which is why I said there was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available.
  • Ahlteffour
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    I could see them making all the berries for the whole year available at year end for a limited time. Or maybe they will just reintroduce them in their respective quarter next year along with whatever new things they will have.

    One can keep hoping at least.
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  • Michae
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    Pevey wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    It was in the news articles on this site, multiple times.

    Yes, which is why I said there was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available.

    What more do you want? There was a popup in the game client that took you to news article. There was a popup announcement when you logged in. How would you present that information so it was clear to you. Do you want the Impressario to sit you down and explain the birds and bees of Indriks? The events were designed for players with a certain level of engagement. The information was there and it was easily accessible from the game client level. You probaly got an e-mail informing you about each event too. Don't go crying that you weren't informed enough if you refused to read anything. ZOS does have problems with clear comunication, but this time that isn't the case.
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  • tinythinker
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    So would it be:

    January-March - Dawnwood
    April-June - Luminous
    July-September - Onyx
    October-December - Pure Snow

    I think. I hope they do return next year, and if they don’t then I hope they sell them in the Crown store someday.

    yeah, if I *had* to guess it would be that if they return it would be in the Crown Store but as others have said we just don't know
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  • Odovacar
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    Onyx I'm hoping will look pretty cool. Anything black goes well with most anything, but in all honesty I don't think they're all that good looking. I still will take part in the events though.
  • TheGreatBlackBear
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    Destyran wrote: »
    I want the black one

    That's what she said.
  • Ertosi
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    Pevey wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    It was in the news articles on this site, multiple times.

    Yes, which is why I said there was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available.

    Actually it's pretty clear how they work in game:

    71xBDMC.jpg

    "Enchanted berries are only available for a limited time through The Impresario so make sure you get them while you can."

    Those help files on Indriks have been available in game even before the feathers first came available.
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  • VaranisArano
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    Michae wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    It was in the news articles on this site, multiple times.

    Yes, which is why I said there was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available.

    What more do you want? There was a popup in the game client that took you to news article. There was a popup announcement when you logged in. How would you present that information so it was clear to you. Do you want the Impressario to sit you down and explain the birds and bees of Indriks? The events were designed for players with a certain level of engagement. The information was there and it was easily accessible from the game client level. You probaly got an e-mail informing you about each event too. Don't go crying that you weren't informed enough if you refused to read anything. ZOS does have problems with clear comunication, but this time that isn't the case.

    So I decided to check my email...

    I got one email informing me that I could earn the indriik by participating in last year's events.
    I got one email informing me that I could explore Vvardenfell and earn tickets for the indriik.
    I got one email about the 5th Anniversary Event, which said I could earn tickets to evolve my Nascent Indriik into a Luminous Indriik.

    So I think you may be mistaken about the amount of information ZOS is sending out about events via email.

    I think you are also incorrect about how much attention we ought to pay that pop-up screen, when most of the time its trying to sell us stuff we already own. If ZOS really wants us to pay attention to that, they did it wrong.

    Furthermore, we didn't get official news about how to evolve them using berries until January 3rd. 2019. And we don't find out how many tickets per event we get until right before the events. This is anything but an upfront and obvious methodology.


    Personally, I'm a teacher. When I look at the number of people confused and uncertain about how the feathers, berries, nascent, evolved thing works, I see a failure of communication. ZOS doles out info about the indriik mounts in bits and pieces, making us search through multiple sources to get exact dates and numbers of tickets available fore each event.

    If I designed my school projects that way, my students who rightfully be confused and upset.

    Sure, this isn't a school project. Its a video game, where we are participating in four events every quarter to get 4 different berries to evolve a horse/deer/thingy to have pretty colors.

    But I'm not surprised that the players who want the indriik and its various evolutions are confused and upset with ZOS' poor communication. Because they've done managed to make something that didn't need to be that complex into something needlessly confusing either by design or because they are winging it just like we are.
  • Rikkadir
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    Pevey wrote: »
    Yeah, I got 3 of the 4 dawnwood berries, and then, you know, life happens. So now I’m not sure whether I should just destroy those 3 to get them out of my inventory.

    Planning to skip the berries from here on. Don’t even care to use the Indrik mounts and don’t need the hassle and the feeling of wasted effort.

    EDIT: This is also the only game I have ever played where you have to closely read every news article to have any idea WTF is going on. There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    I have three of the Dawnwood Berries, Bloom, Budding, and Growth. Logged in today and got my 10th event ticket, now off to the Impresario. Was absolutely gutted, no Dawnwood berries? This is a joke! I can only play the game 4 days a week. Why can't the Impresario sell all berries all the time? So disappointed in this game, 40 event tickets wasted.

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  • starkerealm
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    Pevey wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    It was in the news articles on this site, multiple times.

    Yes, which is why I said there was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available.

    Pretty sure that was mentioned on the login splash during the Jester Festival.
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    Rikkadir wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    Yeah, I got 3 of the 4 dawnwood berries, and then, you know, life happens. So now I’m not sure whether I should just destroy those 3 to get them out of my inventory.

    Planning to skip the berries from here on. Don’t even care to use the Indrik mounts and don’t need the hassle and the feeling of wasted effort.

    EDIT: This is also the only game I have ever played where you have to closely read every news article to have any idea WTF is going on. There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    I have three of the Dawnwood Berries, Bloom, Budding, and Growth. Logged in today and got my 10th event ticket, now off to the Impresario. Was absolutely gutted, no Dawnwood berries? This is a joke! I can only play the game 4 days a week. Why can't the Impresario sell all berries all the time? So disappointed in this game, 40 event tickets wasted.

    I'm off to play Mass Effect Andromeda. :)

    30 tickets. Unless you accidentally bought the fourth berry but wanted to come on here and pitch a fit. But, I mean, we're only on the 14th ticket from this event... So, something's off here.
  • Pevey
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    Pevey wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    It was in the news articles on this site, multiple times.

    Yes, which is why I said there was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available.

    Pretty sure that was mentioned on the login splash during the Jester Festival.

    Oh, that was really useful considering that was the very last event of the quarter and the one that I missed. /s

    I really can’t understand why people are defending the spotty communication given all the confusion around this system. See teacher comment above. Some people just like to argue for no good reason.

  • Jhalin
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    Pevey wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    It was in the news articles on this site, multiple times.

    Yes, which is why I said there was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available.

    Pretty sure that was mentioned on the login splash during the Jester Festival.

    Oh, that was really useful considering that was the very last event of the quarter and the one that I missed. /s

    I really can’t understand why people are defending the spotty communication given all the confusion around this system. See teacher comment above. Some people just like to argue for no good reason.

    Because it’s not spotty

    You just didn’t listen

    This is on you for ignoring all the info in-game, on the official website, on the forums, in emails, in the articles for every festival

    If you chose not to get any info from that, there’s nothing that would've helped you
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Pevey wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    It was in the news articles on this site, multiple times.

    Yes, which is why I said there was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available.

    Pretty sure that was mentioned on the login splash during the Jester Festival.

    Oh, that was really useful considering that was the very last event of the quarter and the one that I missed. /s

    I really can’t understand why people are defending the spotty communication given all the confusion around this system. See teacher comment above. Some people just like to argue for no good reason.

    Communication really wasn’t spotty though ... as you assert.

    Evolving the Indrik was all over the ESO news, social media, the in-game help, and a popular topic in the forums.

    Not to mention tickets were plentiful during the events ... as well as in the crown store if you were short a few.

    Players who missed out simply failed to plan ahead of time.
  • Austinseph1
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    If you missing out on reading the information (being your own fault because I’ve seen it presented multiple times as well as being in the in game help menu) makes you mad enough to quit then there won’t be any hard feelings honestly. If that’s the only reason you play it’s quite a pity. These events have given me so many rewards that the indriks are just a cherry on top. I have a life to, and I get killed every day at work and spend plenty of time with loved ones, but I find a few minutes at the end of the day to log in and get enough tickets because I enjoy playing. If I miss a morph because I messed up? Nobody’s fault but my own XD
  • starkerealm
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    Pevey wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    There was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available at future events.

    It was in the news articles on this site, multiple times.

    Yes, which is why I said there was no indication from playing the game that the berries would suddenly stop being available.

    Pretty sure that was mentioned on the login splash during the Jester Festival.

    Oh, that was really useful considering that was the very last event of the quarter and the one that I missed. /s

    I really can’t understand why people are defending the spotty communication given all the confusion around this system. See teacher comment above. Some people just like to argue for no good reason.

    This was communicated in multiple places. They were very clear that the berries would only be available during the first four events, and then they would be retired.

    That wasn't the problem. The problem is you never read anything about the berries. You never checked any of the news articles.

    "Communication was spotty," when they literally slapped links to in depth explanations across the launcher, and across your screen every day.

    At this point, about the only thing they could have done that would be more aggressive, would be to send someone to your house, tie you down, explain it, and then quiz you on the system.
  • Complaintdesk
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    It really would be appropriate for some official response on this question. On numerous occasions in the past ESO has said certain items were available for "A Limited Time", and they have returned to the game, especially mounts. So many players had so much invested into procuring mounts and the items associated with transforming those mounts, it really does not seem nice to leave them hanging with 3 of the 4 berries in their inventory, wondering if they will ever return.

    1.) Can we destroy our event tickets, safe with the knowledge that they are useless and will never return?
    2.)Can we destroy our remaining berries, safe with the knowledge that they are useless, and we will never be able to transform our Indrik mounts?

    It really seems like these questions question deserve some form of official response, considering how much confusion there is on this issue.
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  • tinythinker
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    It really would be appropriate for some official response on this question. On numerous occasions in the past ESO has said certain items were available for "A Limited Time", and they have returned to the game, especially mounts. So many players had so much invested into procuring mounts and the items associated with transforming those mounts, it really does not seem nice to leave them hanging with 3 of the 4 berries in their inventory, wondering if they will ever return.

    1.) Can we destroy our event tickets, safe with the knowledge that they are useless and will never return?
    2.)Can we destroy our remaining berries, safe with the knowledge that they are useless, and we will never be able to transform our Indrik mounts?

    It really seems like these questions question deserve some form of official response, considering how much confusion there is on this issue.

    As for #1, there are more berries to come this year as well as other things to spend tickets on. It's a year-long event with four mounts, and only two have been made available so far. Plus with each event there have been secondary items besides berries people can buy with tickets.
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