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3500 crowns for a statue for your house. (Sithis)
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WaterBearer✭✭LadyAstrum wrote: »WaterBearer wrote: »LadyAstrum wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »thatlaurachick wrote: »*looks at Sithis statue that's as tall as a house*
Worth it to me. /shrug
Wish I had as much disposable income as you apparently do to think throwing away 25 bucks on a virtual functionless object is worth it.
I hate posts like this, passively throwing a jab at someone you know nothing about.
Throwing money away? Worth is subjective.
Make better financial decisions and one day you too can spend 25 bucks on a virtual functionless object and you won't ever consider spending money on something you want, "throwing away it away".
The irony. Some would say spending money on overly priced virtual items wouldn't be considered making "better financial decisions".
Each to their own, but your own idea that someone is either poor or financially inept to buy a statue, one that costs more than some games, is equally distasteful.
Subjective. We're all coming from different financial circumstances and what we do with our money is no ones business but ours, regardless of whether you agree with someones decisions or not.
To me $25 once a month or every two months on top of my subscription when things rotate in/out of the store really isn't that bad (others, based on their funds or perception of value, would disagree, which is totally understandable). But why do we have to yuck each other's yums?
Also, lol, DLC is automatically added when you're subscribed (so really saving even more).
*EDIT: Although, I do agree with most of y'all that call it way overpriced. I think it is as well. But I love housing so much I'm willing to overpay. I'll always make more money.*
Because, to answer briefly, it is people such as yourself who help make the cash shop monster grow greedier and greedier. You are perfectly happy to pay for something that is over-priced thus encouraging ever more absurd pricing in the future. So, indirectly, other people's spending on these things impacts us all.
And so the alternative is for me to not spend anything and not get the things I want and that make the game enjoyable for me? Yeah lol, f**k that. It's people like you who, irrationally, expect me to not pay for things I want. If I can get some enjoyment out of certain aspects of the game that you aren't able to for whatever reason then I'm so sorry, but that's not on me. If you want to take issue with ZOS for their pricing, which I have no control over, be my guest. But don't blame people that are able to access certain aspects of ESO more easily. Also, it's capitalism. Hate to tell you, but the nature of the beast will always be greed.4 -
LadyAstrum✭✭✭✭✭
✭VaranisArano wrote: »LadyAstrum wrote: »WaterBearer wrote: »LadyAstrum wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »thatlaurachick wrote: »*looks at Sithis statue that's as tall as a house*
Worth it to me. /shrug
Wish I had as much disposable income as you apparently do to think throwing away 25 bucks on a virtual functionless object is worth it.
I hate posts like this, passively throwing a jab at someone you know nothing about.
Throwing money away? Worth is subjective.
Make better financial decisions and one day you too can spend 25 bucks on a virtual functionless object and you won't ever consider spending money on something you want, "throwing away it away".
The irony. Some would say spending money on overly priced virtual items wouldn't be considered making "better financial decisions".
Each to their own, but your own idea that someone is either poor or financially inept to buy a statue, one that costs more than some games, is equally distasteful.
Subjective. We're all coming from different financial circumstances and what we do with our money is no ones business but ours, regardless of whether you agree with someones decisions or not.
To me $25 once a month or every two months on top of my subscription when things rotate in/out of the store really isn't that bad (others, based on their funds or perception of value, would disagree, which is totally understandable). But why do we have to yuck each other's yums?
Also, lol, DLC is automatically added when you're subscribed (so really saving even more).
*EDIT: Although, I do agree with most of y'all that call it way overpriced. I think it is as well. But I love housing so much I'm willing to overpay. I'll always make more money.*
Because, to answer briefly, it is people such as yourself who help make the cash shop monster grow greedier and greedier. You are perfectly happy to pay for something that is over-priced thus encouraging ever more absurd pricing in the future. So, indirectly, other people's spending on these things impacts us all.
You can ask people to boycott items that you think are overpriced in hopes of influencing the market. You can't force people to not spend money on items that you think are overpriced. You can't even guarantee that a boycott will impact ZOS the way you want. The only wallet you get to vote with is your own.
I am starting to. I was a micro whale in GW2 and SWTOR. I'd look at my purchase history and feel a little sick, but still I carried on. Then I came to ESO and my micro-whaling continued, but the moment I saw all consumables in crown crates and the tiny chances to get the "cool stuff" I lost all desire to drop money on them.
I have purchased a bunch of limited-time items since last October when I started playing, but there's no pride there. In fact I'm beginning to feel ashamed. I can't even pin-point why. Partly, because I have a tendency to be impulsive. But the price of the outfit slots awoke something, a feeling of trepidation.
Nonetheless, I'm not on a mission to do anything. I can only make my own choices, I'm simply expressing my opinion on these things.Edited by LadyAstrum on March 9, 2018 7:42PM~ "You think me brutish? How do you imagine I view you?" - Molag Bal #misunderstood ~2 -
Wayshuba✭✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »
Lol they wouldn’t be pricing things how they are priced if the numbers we don’t see were telling them otherwise. That just seems like a silly comment for someone who has zero information about the people who have all the information
This was discussed in another thread but I will summarize here since it also applies. As someone who has done this for almost 30 years, I can say for certain they have NO DATA WHATSOEVER that applies to how they set prices. There has been no market variable or price elasticity testing done (we know, because we would have seen it if it was) to know if they are indeed setting optimal pricing.
What is more likely, is the person responsible for the CS pricing is guessing (yes, scientific I know) at what price he/she thinks they can get for it. Believe it or not, this is how many companies come up with pricing - which, personally, I am happy for since I make very good money coming into companies and helping them learn how to intelligently set pricing and maximize revenue and market penetration from products.2 -
xbobx✭✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »I dont think so. There seems to be plenty of people who are willing to pay these prices so they will just keep going...
you assume that but i wouldnt be surprised if there are less than 50 people that buy them.
and yet if they priced it at 1k they would sell 1000+
they don't understand economics.
Lol they wouldn’t be pricing things how they are priced if the numbers we don’t see were telling them otherwise. That just seems like a silly comment for someone who has zero information about the people who have all the information
or they know nothing about economics and don't realize they will make more money pricing these things more appropriate. They may have numbers but they may not understand them. Remember these are the same guys that tanked the game originally.
and from 25 years in business, one thing that is very noticeable is that high level decision makes tend to lose common sense and make many stupid decisions.1 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »
Lol they wouldn’t be pricing things how they are priced if the numbers we don’t see were telling them otherwise. That just seems like a silly comment for someone who has zero information about the people who have all the information
This was discussed in another thread but I will summarize here since it also applies. As someone who has done this for almost 30 years, I can say for certain they have NO DATA WHATSOEVER that applies to how they set prices. There has been no market variable or price elasticity testing done (we know, because we would have seen it if it was) to know if they are indeed setting optimal pricing.
What is more likely, is the person responsible for the CS pricing is guessing (yes, scientific I know) at what price he/she thinks they can get for it. Believe it or not, this is how many companies come up with pricing - which, personally, I am happy for since I make very good money coming into companies and helping them learn how to intelligently set pricing and maximize revenue and market penetration from products.
then your just ignorant i cant even keep reading after you all caps that they have no data. you're just dumb lolEdited by magictucktuck on March 10, 2018 2:58PM0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »I dont think so. There seems to be plenty of people who are willing to pay these prices so they will just keep going...
you assume that but i wouldnt be surprised if there are less than 50 people that buy them.
and yet if they priced it at 1k they would sell 1000+
they don't understand economics.
Lol they wouldn’t be pricing things how they are priced if the numbers we don’t see were telling them otherwise. That just seems like a silly comment for someone who has zero information about the people who have all the information
or they know nothing about economics and don't realize they will make more money pricing these things more appropriate. They may have numbers but they may not understand them. Remember these are the same guys that tanked the game originally.
and from 25 years in business, one thing that is very noticeable is that high level decision makes tend to lose common sense and make many stupid decisions.
25 years in business and you not making the decisions i guess? everyone thinks they are an expert especially when they arnt doing it
EDIT: sorry dont mean to be a ***, but im just pointing out the obvious here guys lets use some common sense like a thriving buisness is making decision on data they have regardless of what the smart formers thinkEdited by magictucktuck on March 10, 2018 3:02PM0 -
LadyAstrum✭✭✭✭✭
✭magictucktuck wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »
Lol they wouldn’t be pricing things how they are priced if the numbers we don’t see were telling them otherwise. That just seems like a silly comment for someone who has zero information about the people who have all the information
This was discussed in another thread but I will summarize here since it also applies. As someone who has done this for almost 30 years, I can say for certain they have NO DATA WHATSOEVER that applies to how they set prices. There has been no market variable or price elasticity testing done (we know, because we would have seen it if it was) to know if they are indeed setting optimal pricing.
What is more likely, is the person responsible for the CS pricing is guessing (yes, scientific I know) at what price he/she thinks they can get for it. Believe it or not, this is how many companies come up with pricing - which, personally, I am happy for since I make very good money coming into companies and helping them learn how to intelligently set pricing and maximize revenue and market penetration from products.
then your just ignorant i cant even keep reading after you all caps that they have no data. you're just dumb lol
He doesn't sound dumb. At least he can punctuate.
Personally, I would have considered buying this statue at 1000-1500 crowns. 3500 is over-the-top and makes my stomach turn. At that price I'd expect it to be animated in some way.~ "You think me brutish? How do you imagine I view you?" - Molag Bal #misunderstood ~1 -
Dapper Dinosaur✭✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »
Lol they wouldn’t be pricing things how they are priced if the numbers we don’t see were telling them otherwise. That just seems like a silly comment for someone who has zero information about the people who have all the information
This was discussed in another thread but I will summarize here since it also applies. As someone who has done this for almost 30 years, I can say for certain they have NO DATA WHATSOEVER that applies to how they set prices. There has been no market variable or price elasticity testing done (we know, because we would have seen it if it was) to know if they are indeed setting optimal pricing.
What is more likely, is the person responsible for the CS pricing is guessing (yes, scientific I know) at what price he/she thinks they can get for it. Believe it or not, this is how many companies come up with pricing - which, personally, I am happy for since I make very good money coming into companies and helping them learn how to intelligently set pricing and maximize revenue and market penetration from products.
then your just ignorant i cant even keep reading after you all caps that they have no data. you're just dumb lol
You have no right to be insulting anyone else with your pathetic grasp of the English language and basic grammar.4 -
xbobx✭✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »I dont think so. There seems to be plenty of people who are willing to pay these prices so they will just keep going...
you assume that but i wouldnt be surprised if there are less than 50 people that buy them.
and yet if they priced it at 1k they would sell 1000+
they don't understand economics.
Lol they wouldn’t be pricing things how they are priced if the numbers we don’t see were telling them otherwise. That just seems like a silly comment for someone who has zero information about the people who have all the information
or they know nothing about economics and don't realize they will make more money pricing these things more appropriate. They may have numbers but they may not understand them. Remember these are the same guys that tanked the game originally.
and from 25 years in business, one thing that is very noticeable is that high level decision makes tend to lose common sense and make many stupid decisions.
25 years in business and you not making the decisions i guess? everyone thinks they are an expert especially when they arnt doing it
EDIT: sorry dont mean to be a ***, but im just pointing out the obvious here guys lets use some common sense like a thriving buisness is making decision on data they have regardless of what the smart formers think
actually i do make decisions and why do you assume its thriving. Again, remember they failed at launch and had to rework the game. I have a feeling someone new is in charge hence all the stupid price things as of late or they are actually not doing well and thing by jacking up prices it will help them.
they have no clue what they are doing and my bet is non business experts are making these decisions.
you see this with almost every corporation. The higher up you get the dumber they get it seems because they lose the ability to apply common sense. We see it all the time where you look at a decision made by a company and wonder, what the hell.
i would love to see the numbers of their crown store sales because there is no way any casual player would pay for 90% of the stuff on there and the game will only survive with lots of casual players.0 -
Wayshuba✭✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »
Lol they wouldn’t be pricing things how they are priced if the numbers we don’t see were telling them otherwise. That just seems like a silly comment for someone who has zero information about the people who have all the information
This was discussed in another thread but I will summarize here since it also applies. As someone who has done this for almost 30 years, I can say for certain they have NO DATA WHATSOEVER that applies to how they set prices. There has been no market variable or price elasticity testing done (we know, because we would have seen it if it was) to know if they are indeed setting optimal pricing.
What is more likely, is the person responsible for the CS pricing is guessing (yes, scientific I know) at what price he/she thinks they can get for it. Believe it or not, this is how many companies come up with pricing - which, personally, I am happy for since I make very good money coming into companies and helping them learn how to intelligently set pricing and maximize revenue and market penetration from products.
then your just ignorant i cant even keep reading after you all caps that they have no data. you're just dumb lol
About the only data they have is - we sold this many at this price. Period. End of story.
But that is not the data you use to determine if your setting your prices properly. They have not done variable level testing, no variable period testing, no testing on their customer base at all.
So yes, they have no data that applies to how they set prices.
Insulting me does not make the point any less valid. For someone so dumb and ignorant, I make an extremely good living helping a variety of companies solve this exact issue.Edited by Wayshuba on March 14, 2018 12:55AM4 -
esp1992✭✭✭Will never buy it... for Sithis is my enemy!MY CHARACTERS
Clouse the White Warden - Breton AD MAG Warden
Jaro the Wild Changeling - Bosmer AD STAM Warden0
