How to make bomblade to...bomb?

Pijng · February 2018

Datthaw wrote: »

Pijng wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

I've never made a bomb blade, but with aoe caps being removed and this new set coming out, I want to. Make a bomb blade of justice, to harrass all these zergs

What set do you mean?

I want to run VD and these new sets once dragon bones dlc drops, bomb blade of justice

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Caluurion’s+Legacy+Set

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Zaan+Set

Idk why that first link is not posting correctly

Personally can't see how these sets will affect a bomblade. Ganking magblades or dueling/1v1/1vX – yes, bomb – well, don't think so

Subversus · February 2018

Pijng wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

Pijng wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

I've never made a bomb blade, but with aoe caps being removed and this new set coming out, I want to. Make a bomb blade of justice, to harrass all these zergs

What set do you mean?

I want to run VD and these new sets once dragon bones dlc drops, bomb blade of justice

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Caluurion’s+Legacy+Set

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Zaan+Set

Idk why that first link is not posting correctly

Personally can't see how these sets will affect a bomblade. Ganking magblades or dueling/1v1/1vX – yes, bomb – well, don't think so

I agree, bomblades will still want to run spinners/VD/kena+domi imo. Go full impen or full divines depending on if you're destro or tether bombing.

Qbiken · February 2018

Subversus wrote: »

Pijng wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

Pijng wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

I've never made a bomb blade, but with aoe caps being removed and this new set coming out, I want to. Make a bomb blade of justice, to harrass all these zergs

What set do you mean?

I want to run VD and these new sets once dragon bones dlc drops, bomb blade of justice

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Caluurion’s+Legacy+Set

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Zaan+Set

Idk why that first link is not posting correctly

Personally can't see how these sets will affect a bomblade. Ganking magblades or dueling/1v1/1vX – yes, bomb – well, don't think so

I agree, bomblades will still want to run spinners/VD/kena+domi imo. Go full impen or full divines depending on if you're destro or tether bombing.

I go full divines for more damage.

You don´t need to escape if there´re no people to escape from

Subversus · February 2018

Qbiken wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Pijng wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

Pijng wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

I've never made a bomb blade, but with aoe caps being removed and this new set coming out, I want to. Make a bomb blade of justice, to harrass all these zergs

What set do you mean?

I want to run VD and these new sets once dragon bones dlc drops, bomb blade of justice

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Caluurion’s+Legacy+Set

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Zaan+Set

Idk why that first link is not posting correctly

Personally can't see how these sets will affect a bomblade. Ganking magblades or dueling/1v1/1vX – yes, bomb – well, don't think so

I agree, bomblades will still want to run spinners/VD/kena+domi imo. Go full impen or full divines depending on if you're destro or tether bombing.

I go full divines for more damage.

You don´t need to escape if there´re no people to escape from

That's the thing though, there are 2 different types of bombing. Tether bombing is all about 1 shot from stealth. Divines is indeed BiS there. Destro ult bombing, however, is all about surviving long enough for the destro ult to do as much damage as possible. That's where impen helps a bunch.

Olupajmibanan · February 2018

Hello guys.
I plan to make bomblade myself. However I like Soul Tether bombing much more than destro ulti. Do I limit myself much by going Soul Tether?

I find Soul tether bombing a lot more cool. You stand stacked near a flag, nice and tight, and then all of sudden BOOOM!

Mazbt · February 2018

When you try to bomb a group pay attention to tabards, and recognizable names of people who run in good groups. It's hard to bomb organized groups who run with heavy heals. Or are very mobile, or are wearing impen. Solo bomb especially. Better off waiting until you see a hord of randoms (especailly some squishies) stacking on flags.

DDuke · February 2018

Has anyone tested if Stygian buffs Detonation?

Could be better than Spinners if it does, as the bulk of the damage comes from that ability.

jaws343 · February 2018

Trashs1 wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Trying switching out Spinners with Mechanical Acuity. The 5 seconds of crit damage to all targets is devastating with Eye of Flame. More so than the penetration given with spinners. I dropped a stationary destro ult on a flag last night and melted everyone on my non-bomber mechanical acuity running Magplar.

roffl what kind of potatoes did u find there???

and stationary staf ult in a pvp environment? u might be one of that pve guys who only want warhorn for their templars? xD

Only had the stationary ult because I hadn't unlocked EotS yet. It was a newer pvp character that I was leveling. But, the stationary ult is still pretty good in keep defense. Drop it on a flag and you don't have to worry about being killed while charging into enemies.

techprince · February 2018

Use C4

Datthaw · February 2018

Pijng wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

Pijng wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

I've never made a bomb blade, but with aoe caps being removed and this new set coming out, I want to. Make a bomb blade of justice, to harrass all these zergs

What set do you mean?

I want to run VD and these new sets once dragon bones dlc drops, bomb blade of justice

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Caluurion’s+Legacy+Set

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Zaan+Set

Idk why that first link is not posting correctly

Personally can't see how these sets will affect a bomblade. Ganking magblades or dueling/1v1/1vX – yes, bomb – well, don't think so

I feel like they would be good for getting a quick kill and starting the VD chain reaction. Looking at zaan though I think they changed it. I don't remember it being proc from light ir heavy, thought it was just a crit. Would all all critted from stealth before. Maybe people in pts caught it idk.

I do get where you're coming from with spinners though

Subversus · February 2018

DDuke wrote: »

Has anyone tested if Stygian buffs Detonation?

Could be better than Spinners if it does, as the bulk of the damage comes from that ability.

Maiden follows the same logic, but also buffs tether + sap. It's a pretty clear winner for tether bombers. Only thing maiden's worse at than spinner is what happens when VD starts proccing, but I guess at that point it doesn't really matter anyway.

DDuke · February 2018

Subversus wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Has anyone tested if Stygian buffs Detonation?

Could be better than Spinners if it does, as the bulk of the damage comes from that ability.

Maiden follows the same logic, but also buffs tether + sap. It's a pretty clear winner for tether bombers. Only thing maiden's worse at than spinner is what happens when VD starts proccing, but I guess at that point it doesn't really matter anyway.

Yeah, I actually went ahead & tested Stygian on PTS... sadly it calculates additively with the Detonation +dmg bonus, CPs etc, so hitting 10 dummies for the maximum 250% modifier from stealth as bosmer (another +10% dmg to attacks from stealth), stygian only increased damage by around 13% rather than 20%.

It's still around 5% more damage on Detonation than Spinners or Maiden, but dunno if it's worth it considering all your non-stealth damage suffers.

In theory, one could alter rotation to Cloak->Lotus Fan->Inner Light->Detonation goes off->Tether, that way you'd get both Lotus Fan & Tether buffed up with Stygian.

Could run something like Skoria as monster set, as it's almost guaranteed to proc from the Lotus Fan/Detonation/Tether, which would add some more AoE burst dmg...

thedude33 · February 2018

I don't know. I've seen the videos so know it can be done. Never experienced it or seen it with my own eyes in game.

MakoFore · February 2018

found this old post as i was putting together my own bomblade for the next patch- good stuff guys.
im an experienced player but very inexperienced with magblades in pvp- but bomblading looks like a fun thing against zergs. had a question :
i wanted to incorporate shadow image into my build- of course the mass killing is awesome but its getting awy with the crime that appeals to me- not being a kamikaze. with that in mind- would necropotence be a viable back bar set?
i.e -
0. inner light
1- proxi det
2 - cast shadow image on the target
3.- lotus -
4. fear
5. soul tether
6. sap essence
7. shadow image out into the night.

ive seen the shadow image build work well with bombblades- but was wondering essentially if necroptence would therefore be a better high damage option.

how does two bomblades work together? does it work well or is it difficult registering the kill off of a certain player- and getting the chain reaction. if they have trouble getting credit for the kill- and therefore the chain reaction. i ve run VD on my mag sorc a bunch in a group and even with a fury proc on a player- its hard to get the VD kill proc 100 percent of the time. i know in theory- double bomb- double damage- just wondering about the practicalities of it if someone has actually played thru it with a friend.

Datthaw · February 2018

MakoFore wrote: »

found this old post as i was putting together my own bomblade for the next patch- good stuff guys.
im an experienced player but very inexperienced with magblades in pvp- but bomblading looks like a fun thing against zergs. had a question :
i wanted to incorporate shadow image into my build- of course the mass killing is awesome but its getting awy with the crime that appeals to me- not being a kamikaze. with that in mind- would necropotence be a viable back bar set?
i.e -
0. inner light
1- proxi det
2 - cast shadow image on the target
3.- lotus -
4. fear
5. soul tether
6. sap essence
7. shadow image out into the night.

ive seen the shadow image build work well with bombblades- but was wondering essentially if necroptence would therefore be a better high damage option.

how does two bomblades work together? does it work well or is it difficult registering the kill off of a certain player- and getting the chain reaction. if they have trouble getting credit for the kill- and therefore the chain reaction. i ve run VD on my mag sorc a bunch in a group and even with a fury proc on a player- its hard to get the VD kill proc 100 percent of the time. i know in theory- double bomb- double damage- just wondering about the practicalities of it if someone has actually played thru it with a friend.

As much as I love shadow image, it's not worth a skill slot in its current state. It's really bugged and CONSTANTLY no casts.

abelsgmx · April 2019

Sixty5 wrote: »

Target selection is your biggest boon.

Scope out the group and find the dude with the bow and 16k HP, and then go park yourself right next to him so that he is sucking down the full power of your AOE damage.

Vicious Death is useless unless you can kill an initial target, once you get target finding down, bombing becomes a lot easier.

Poor that 16k guy and that big jump of his chair when it is bombed lol

Gnozo · April 2019

Practicing necromancy here?

kaithuzar · April 2019

I think there’s some misunderstanding here.

In order to pull off a successful bomb:
Your soul tether should be the first attack that hits as it has a stun, which means when the det goes off directly after, they aren’t blocking, thus taking more dmg.

In theory, you should just buff with merciless resolve, trigger detonation, lotus fan/stealth in place, cloak, pop potion, tether, det goes off, vd does it’s thing, cloak away.

It’s the timing of det directly after soul tether that’s difficult.

Iskiab · April 2019

You guys don’t use race against time for the minor crit damage buff? Lightning or flame staff?

kaithuzar · April 2019

The easiest/sneakiest/shadiest/dirtiest way of pulling off a bomb is...

( because everyone is a tank in Cyrodiil with 30k+ health )

Have your buddy in voice coms with you log on to the opposing faction & take off all his armor so that your vicious death will certainly proc.
A successful bomb has to have your VD proc meaning you have to get at least 1 kill, this is the easiest way to ensure that happens. Take turns doing that & making recorded YouTube vids, you’ll be an ESO super star in no time! ~lulz

Datthaw · April 2019

Iskiab wrote: »

You guys don’t use race against time for the minor crit damage buff? Lightning or flame staff?

This thread is from last year before psijic, shield chages and a lot of things, my post dragon bones hadn't even dropped yet

Datthaw wrote: »

Pijng wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

I've never made a bomb blade, but with aoe caps being removed and this new set coming out, I want to. Make a bomb blade of justice, to harrass all these zergs

What set do you mean?

I want to run VD and these new sets once dragon bones dlc drops, bomb blade of justice

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Caluurion’s+Legacy+Set

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Zaan+Set

Idk why that first link is not posting correctly

jhall03 · April 2019

There's a gentleman named Mursie around here who does it very well. He streams and his recently put the build up on YouTube.

Just FYI

Minno · April 2019

jhall03 wrote: »

There's a gentleman named Mursie around here who does it very well. He streams and his recently put the build up on YouTube.

Just FYI

nice necro. Need this topic again because large amounts of players need to start dying again. If everyone thinks siege is boring to bring back, then bombers need to be a thing again for the sake of the game in regards to lag.

Iskiab · April 2019

I see them all the time in no-CP. too often actually, so people have their guard up.

Nastiest tactic I’ve seen was straight from terrorist tactics. One buy bombed people repairing the door. People went to Rez those caught and a second one went in and bombed the people just up at half health.

Jimmy_The_Fixer · April 2019

Anyone ever try a 2-man bomb with a harmony bombblade proccing a supernova?

Iskiab · April 2019

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Anyone ever try a 2-man bomb with a harmony bombblade proccing a supernova?

Not me, but I have a feeling I’m about to.

jaws343 · April 2019

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Anyone ever try a 2-man bomb with a harmony bombblade proccing a supernova?

I am pretty sure I have seen this happen. But Supernova synergy hits hard, so it is kind of hard to tell if that is actually what is happening sometimes.

Iskiab · April 2019

jaws343 wrote: »

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Anyone ever try a 2-man bomb with a harmony bombblade proccing a supernova?

I am pretty sure I have seen this happen. But Supernova synergy hits hard, so it is kind of hard to tell if that is actually what is happening sometimes.

NM, I was wrong.

InvictusApollo · April 2019

Qbiken wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Your spell-damage is kind of low for a bomb-blade. Penetration is fine. My suggestions:

* If you´re going to use "Soul-Tether bomb-style", swap out Grothdarr for 1 Kena+1Domihaus. The extra stats and spell-damage from those 2 monster sets will be better than grothdarr. For destro-ult bombing grothdarr is still decent.

*Re-trait your main-hand sword to nirnhoned and off-hand infused and gold them out. This will give you and significant boost in spell-damage.

BUT.........

If I were you I would wait until next patch is released before making major changes to your bombblade (especially the re-traiting). We don´t know if ZOS has any further plans with Vicious Death or proxy detonation. But if no changes are made, the removal of AoE caps will be a big buff for your bombblade next patch.

@Qbiken

Why not sharp offhand? You don't really get the benefit of an infused trait since he plan is to hit all your burst from stealth in one gcd, right?

@Subversus Personal preference I guess, but sharp off-hand works fine as well.

Because you could use LA on your back bar to proc spell damage glyph and then cloak to use your ultimate. Most groups wont notice this and even if they do, then they wont have enough time to react.