• Makes my favorite role or build with the class weaker
• Makes me sad/frustrated that one or more iconic skills are gone or changed beyond recognition

This sums up perfectly my feelings for Wood Elves losing their Sneak racial skill.

My Bosmer sneakthief was my 3rd character I ever made here; I had him forever and built him specifically based off of that skill. Really sucks that after years and years it's just snatched away. What really adds some salt and lemon juice to the wound is that it was replaced with that stupid sneak detection ability. Absolutely no racial skill should be something that's only a benefit in a limited subset of gameplay, yet there it is.

"Makes the skill(s) not feel as fun to use/loss of cool factor"
"Makes me sad/frustrated that one or more iconic skills are gone or changed beyond recognition"

Mostly those two options in my case.

Examples in case are (for me and the class I like to play) Sun Shield, and Repentance. I used to really like using Blazing Shield back in 2014 and was one of the most awesome things to do as templar, and now is neutered beyond use for most people, unless you go for a very very niche build.

Repentance was an awesome skill to use while going with your friends to help them with sustain, which was also neutered to the point now it's just a free heal to use, which in most cases aren't needed (I don't play stamplars so the personal stamina return is moot for me, except in PvP situations.)

Another skill I keep mourning for is Puncturing Sweeps, which I'd still like to use as DPS main spammable, but is under-performing compared to Elemental Weapon, which is the skill used by almost every magicka dps atm.

Also the disappearance of Nova as a group utility ultimate except some very specific situations, due to the fact that the damage reduction is not needed mostly, due to the fact that damage comes in two types: one shots, or tickles and doing more damage surpasses all.

Over time much that was awesome was lost and not much cool stuff was gained instead, IMO.

I’ve mained a mDK since 1.5 so all the below apply (repeatedly)lol.

Makes the class too weak overall in PvE and/or PvP

Makes my favorite role or build with the class weaker


Makes me sad/frustrated that one or more iconic skills are gone or changed beyond recognition

Makes the skill(s) not feel as fun to use/loss of cool factor

It’s just the fact that it’s yet another blow to a class which has been hit repeatedly.

This is the point, adjust skills not twist them like only a grey burocrat only interested in statics, making them dull and flat.

That both those that called for the nerfs and the devs do not understand:
how it affects other things
or how it is a totally different factor that really underlay the calls for the nerfs

Also that it is money wasted, when the servers and its code needs far more attention and has no staff, because those that exist are for making stamblade DPS overkill, not fixing long standing issues

(not their fault but those that set the priorities)

I play this game since 2014. ZOS nerfs literally everything using "small steps" tactic. 1% here, and there, major buff -> minor buff, 200 resource recovery -> 150 resource recovery etc.

It is really sad to see every class to be a mere shadow to what it used to be. This affects the game & diversity more than you can think. Builds, play styles, diversity, it is all being reduced & homogenised more & more. Class identity is slowly dying.

NB sap tank is a prime example of this. It used to be an awesom way to Tank stuff and unique for NB class, but now it is gone since like 1 year or so. ZOS killed it.

I only get annoyed when the skill gets completly changed and becomes useless for its original purpose (such as the wsrden frost wind heal skill) or when i have to change sets because they dont work anymore as intended

Listening to the majority is not always the best for balance because most of the time the majority will abuse broken mechanics, that's a fact, thus the majority will defend broken things, that's why being a developer is a hard task. They can't balance things basing just on the majority's voice, there is a lot more to take into consideration but players don't think like that, players think just about them selves not about bigger picture.

Mine is a mix of one of the ones listed and one that is not.

When applicable: Makes me sad/frustrated that one or more iconic skills are gone or changed beyond recognition
This is not every time.

The main bother that I have is needing to sit down and figure out how the skill fits into my character. Sometimes, I just don't have time, but I have to spend that time. I can do the evaluation work on PTS, but then I have to deal with it on Live after the changes are released, across all characters that it impacts.

All of the above. I am starting to dread new patches and game changes. It is never/rarely good. So much fun taken out of the game and really hurting the toons I love.....

I'm going to expand on this. I pick toons because of the skills/passives etc that are offered. Over the past year, particularly, I see so many nerfs, and very few enhancements. Lots of skills I loved to use/play, now useless. I see comments further down that are driving my longer post.

I have toons (more than one race and class) that have over 80 unused skill points. Why is that? Because there is no point to putting them anywhere. Not going to use nerfed skills, or skills no one uses. And yet, they still continue to nerf skills that ARE used. I kind of agree. It's going to turn into a game of tossing rocks (until that gets nerfed) or just hand to hand............. it's boring, it's SAD!!!!!! I put skill points on those toons into skills that are now useless.......... bound armour as an example on one of them - so wasted some of the few skill points I bothered to implement. There are so few USEFUL skills now, and fun skills? Less and less all the time.......... Well, I guess, ZOS doesn't want FUN skills.

My first toon is a healer....... well, we know that healers are becoming less and less relevant. So moving on.

I played a MagWarden with my bear - she was SO FUN - and then nerf........ she stores stuff because if I wanted to play a stamwarden, I would have made one.

Next favourite toon.......... Wood Elf Nightblade....... well, we know what happened to that. She is now a storage toon, and apparently in good timing because things are going to get worse for the few skills she used, and there is nothing better to put skill points into, so why respec?

Next favourite toon......... DK - because so many fun skills........... and now.........

Next favourite toon ....... dunmer, vampire, mag........ racial passives changed to promote ABOSLUTELY useless hybrid........

Now, I'm mostly storage. What's the point in building toons, you love, to have them nerfed - or the few useable skills nerfed, or the passives nerfed?

Am I making sense? There are less and less usable or fun skills continuing to happen. So, my conclusion.......... STOP NERFING everything, races, skills and such.......... PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, enhance skills, or counters to fun skills, and so forth....

There is NO sense of progression to be found anywhere with the "Uh, you can't even have more CP........ which, to be honest, at my level, didn't make much of a difference, but at least it was something."

YEAH, ALL OF THE ABOVE.......... I have lots of storage toons......... not really interested in making more to have them nerfed into storage........ because if I wanted a different race, I would have chosen it. If I wanted a different class, I would have chosen it. If I wanted boring skills or use a couple of the plethora of skills........ oh wait, I started choosing that awhile ago......... I loved when this game and the skills and so forth were fun........ now, less and less all the time.

So many USELESS SKILLS or morphs!!!!!!!!! Wouldn't it be lovely if there was a plethora of skills to pick from for fun or utility? In the nerf environment/mentality, it becomes less and less.............. and, it hurts....

Rant? over

I really dont care what they do to a class. I'll either figure out how to play it the new way or I'll play another one for a while.