This launch right here... is not industry normal.

It just occurred to me that some of these common issues that have been cropping up sound like Lag/Connection problems to me. In PVP, the only times that Siege weapons failed to work for me were right before my connection to the server went wonky.

And in another game, I can't tell you the amount of times in other games I've seen and heard of Geometry issues popping up due to an iffy connection. Simply too many to count. Something I've never encountered there nor here...

Dang it, now I want to investigate this.

jdkorreckpreub18_ESO wrote: »

You haven't played an mmo launch before have you. This is industry normal.

Painful "insight" from someone who hasn't been on very many themselves as it seems. I have NEVER seen a game as messed up as this one. Quests not working, items going away like a fart in the wind, the always famous "unknown error" (my personal fav), along with falling thru the world with no way to get back so you're stuck in limbo forever HAHAHAHA...

This game belongs back in beta AT BEST, I'd personally kick it back to alpha to get everything reworked. EVERYTHING from their non existent customer "service", to their botched money grabbing system where it'll take some cards, not others, charge some people 0, but triple charge others for over $170..

Other than that it's pretty, it's the only MMO I've played in first person constantly (that also goes for the console versions as well). And might, just MIGHT have the power to keep pushing longer as a sub game than some of the one's I've been part of. This game ranks right up there with FFXIV (first launch), Diablo 3, and Sim City 4 or whatever the latest launch of the Sim City series was they only have like a billion of them don't they?

Also a lot of the issues were known and pointed out in BETA
like quest mobs not spawning, but it never got fixed.

SuicideDonkey wrote: »

This is one of least buggy launches I've seen of any online game in the last 5 or 6 years, nowadays just being able to log in after a new launch is a challenge most of the time.

WHat was your last launch FFXIV round one?

Because FFXIV round two was really good except for the login queue, they communicated/updated us and applied many fixes and information while it was happening. Guess what, resolved within a week.

SirJerry wrote: »

Have the standards fallen so low?!?!

i've played plenty of MMO launches! here is a small list of games that didn't have as many problems:
Dungeons and Dragons online (few minor bug)
SWOTOR The beta of this game was more smooth than ESO on launch
World of Tanks (technically an MMO) NO BUGS AT ALL!
Warhammer Online (for a failure of a game that it was it had a LOT less bugs)
Final Fantasy XIV the game developers actually said that the failed the game and gave everyone free time to play the game while they fix it!

so yeah... this is the standards of games gone down the drain!

DDO, maybe launch was smooth but if so their standards have fallen greatly. They've released two expansions, the first introduced bugs where most bosses would spawn in walls and every quest was uncompletable, this took 3 months to resolve. The second expansion released duping bugs that they left on live for six months.

SWTOR, not sure about it's beta but during launch I disconnected every 5 mins and the staircases were bugged to where you couldn't access second floors and get out of the starter area.

World of Tanks, never touched

Warhammer Online, never touched

Final Fantasy 14, I assume you're talking about the original and not a real reborn. Are you seriously saying a game that was so bad that they told people not to pay for it, fired the entire dev team, closed the servers after a short amount of time, and completely re-did the game was better?

Hello Jerry. I see you are new to world of MMO-s and confused at the state of the game.

Please, sit down and relax.

You see, all MMO-s are buggy at launch. This state may wary from weeks to months. Its simply things that could not be fixed during beta period for various reasons.

Other bugs are a result of server strain. One might say buy new servers, but it actually goes beyond just "muscle". Optimization of code is something that needs to be fine tuned.

Also I see you had some issues that are most likely your own fault.
Like 7. , when you mine a node, you actually have to "take" resources into you`r bag. Not just E / move / hose.

Things like 3. are probably just spawn timers because someone killed targeted NPC before and the respawn timer started.

All in all, as far as MMO launches go, this was a pretty good one.

Calaban wrote: »

I have experienced almost no issues at all.

Same. I've not encountered any bugs that I can recall. I've played through the two starter islands and am now in Daggerfall. I've been running two characters and neither have had any issues.

I'm sure that there are issues, and I'm sure that many of them are being worked on in the background. I expect a moderately large patch within the next couple weeks, or maybe they will continue with the minor patch strategy, hard to say, but I'm sure patches are rolling in to fix the bugs people are reporting.

I felt this launch was pretty good. I ran into some of the issues on the list, but not since beta. Had one issue with the Cyrodiil load screen, but I delete some file in one of the folders got in.

9. I thought that was a standard for MMO. You get your game time after you set up a subscription. I could of swore it was like that in SWTOR and vanilla wow. Maybe in uo? I could be wrong and I probably am.

What megaserver is everyone playing on?

Vlas wrote: »

You are sure they are performing rolling patches to fix problems? I mean... it must be great being reassured from your position of nothing wrong with your characters.

Do you realize your posts do nothing to advance the conversation and in fact, are condescending and passive aggressive?

Or they are a pragmatic view that bugs are pretty common in mmo's and that they get fixed eventually. The speed of the fixes is the only thing that varies. We've had a couple bug fix patches since early access started. I wouldn't be surprised by another before the end of the week. It's a launch there will be bugs, some will get a lot of them and some will get very very few.

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

Buggy at launch how about buggy always just the number of bugs gets reduced and tolerable.

Very true, mmo's always have bugs because they always introduce a few every content patch.

Vlas wrote: »

jdkorreckpreub18_ESO wrote: »

Vlas wrote: »

You are sure they are performing rolling patches to fix problems? I mean... it must be great being reassured from your position of nothing wrong with your characters.

Do you realize your posts do nothing to advance the conversation and in fact, are condescending and passive aggressive?

Or they are a pragmatic view that bugs are pretty common in mmo's and that they get fixed eventually. The speed of the fixes is the only thing that varies. We've had a couple bug fix patches since early access started. I wouldn't be surprised by another before the end of the week. It's a launch there will be bugs, some will get a lot of them and some will get very very few.

Thanks captain condescension

It's not condescension, it's a differing viewpoint, and an optimistic outlook rather than trying for doom and gloom.

Vlas wrote: »

The problem is they verify your account with the full amount instead of say, a dollar or a penny.

I don't understand why that is a problem.

Conntra wrote: »

Vlas wrote: »

The problem is they verify your account with the full amount instead of say, a dollar or a penny.

I don't understand why that is a problem.

It is unusual for them to preauth the entire amount just to verify the card.

This game seems to have drawn in a lot of people unfamiliar with how MMOs work. They expect everything to be perfect and given to them for free. This is one of the smoothest MMO launches I have participated in, This is definitely not my first rodeo. I generally don't get a new MMO anymore until after it has been out a month or so. I would definitely tell anybody that taking time off work for a new MMO that they are asking for a lot of free time to sort the sock drawer. This game has enough good things going on that you really have to be trying hard to be bored if a couple of quest bugs stop you so a couple of days off to play isn't wasted.

And #9 - that is a horse that has been beaten to death. Full price authorization might be a bit high, but the basic idea is not novel to this game. The only time you don't have it is once a game has gone F2P (or, in the case of WoW, the first 20 levels are F2P).