IzzyStardust wrote: »It's a game. Not reality.
IzzyStardust wrote: »I guess being a vampire, murderer, thief, doesn't bother you though xD
HappyLittleTree wrote: »
IzzyStardust wrote: »It's a game. Not reality.
Obviously it's just a game, but many of us don't choose our race purely for their racial bonuses. We play them as a character.
I don't go all out. I'm me. All of the time. My character just happens to be very much like myself but with pointy ears.
Like the OP I think carefully about things like this. Eg. if I decide that one of my characters will be Telvanni, why and how will they be anti slavery? I am so they would have to be too.IzzyStardust wrote: »I guess being a vampire, murderer, thief, doesn't bother you though xD
Why do you assume that they are and aren't bothered?
But I'll address those as myself.
Vampires in Elder Scrolls don't need to eat. Anything. They become stronger if they don't feed. My vampires don't. They go stage 4 and stay there. I'm vegan in real life. Not having to eat anything ever is like a vegan wet dream.
Murderer? Yeah I don't love that one. I distinctly remember my first "murder". On my main character in Valenwood I accidentally aggro'ed an NPC and then my damn sorcerer pets killed them. Back then I didn't know how to unsummon them and it's not exactly intuitive - going into the character screen and right-click cancelling them.
I was a bit annoyed by that. That the game now recorded me as a murderer.
I've owned the Dark Brotherhood DLC for years and only just a few weeks ago did their story content. Because unlike the Thieve's Guild which has a means for you to level their skill line and progress through the story, you have to murder to do the DB story. So I didn't bother.
But then there were those event tickets. No other way to get them. I got them - and got the story out of the way while I was at it - and haven't touched DB since.
Thieving? Well it's just things. Attachment to things is bad for you.
...Well, every race has their dark sides, right?JayAstrophel wrote: »Their homeland looks cool but the slavery thing bugs me big time.
Yeah, D&D novels about this character have sparked a LOT of interest in dark skinned elves... I am no exception.Mattock_Romulus wrote: »Drizzt Do'Urden
Indeed."Three voices as one shouted blood for the pact."
TheShadowScout wrote: »...Well, every race has their dark sides, right?JayAstrophel wrote: »Their homeland looks cool but the slavery thing bugs me big time.
For Dunmer, yeah, its he slavery, tho they are not really the only ones who practice slavery in Tamrial, but definitely the ones who practice it most ever since the fall of the ayleid empire. But then, there is bosmer and cannibalism, altmer and racism, imperials and necromancy, argonians and assassination, nords and alcoholism... and just like with those, not ALL dunmer are on board with the slavery thing.Yeah, D&D novels about this character have sparked a LOT of interest in dark skinned elves... I am no exception.Mattock_Romulus wrote: »Drizzt Do'Urden
The "Drow connection" is why I love dark elves in pretty much every setting, and why I picked them as main back when i started playing TES games with "TES-II:Daggerfall". Even thoD&D did not invent the concept, that may be a bit older considering they are derived from norse legends about dökkálfar and svartálfar used to add a race of "negative elves" (both in visuals and in basic "good vs. evil" alignment) to the D&D bestiary....
But... when I got to "TES-III:Morrowind", I stumbled over the dunmer homelands and history, and they became favorites of mine in their own right!
The lands were a revelation after the "generic fantasy" feel of "Daggerfall", full of strange beasts, strange dwellings and strange landscapes, where one felt truly visiting a non-human realm in a game.
And the whole "Red Mountain" origin story about wars, mystic artifacts, magical catastrophes, betrayel of alliances, false godhood and daedric curses as well as all the cultural differences between the various houses and the ashlandes, and everything... THAT is what makes me love them!Indeed."Three voices as one shouted blood for the pact."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-lGevvO2vw
In ESO, I love the Ebonheart Pact more then all the others, not just because of the dunmer being part of it, but moreso because of the story behind it.
For one, they are a -defensive- alliance, three different people banding together as equals to face a larger threat and defend their freedom and home (as opposed to ally in the name of conquering tamriel in the name of elven supremacy or human ambition).
I like that.
For another, the -quest stories- the pact has give a character background and motivation for PvP. I mean, what compare the way the other alliances are depicted in DC or AD questings - there are raids, but... these seem more then a one-quest nuisance, as opposed to wholesale invasions in Bleackrock, Bal Foyed and Stonefalls, attempted genocide in Shadowfen or backing a Coup-de-Etat in Eastmarch... at the end of the questing, AD and DC characters are basically in cyrodil because their leader told them to win the ruby throne... while EP characters are there to put an end to the threats to their homelands and get some revenge for all the atrocities comitted and attempted!
TheShadowScout wrote: »Indeed."Three voices as one shouted blood for the pact."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-lGevvO2vw
Nord if any are the true racists, and yeah those genocides are usually overlooked
Because I'm Pact loyal and they are our magika class.
Ugly homeland, i like snowy terrain.
The uniqueness of their culture, especially since it was well fleshed out in TESIII. It has it's own look, architecture and pretty original and strange lore. It's like nothing we know. Compare that to other races and their cultures, their clothes and architecture. You can see clear parallels to real world cultures:
- Imperial - Roman,
- Redguard - Arabic,
- Khajiit - also a bit arabic with maybe a taste of Romani (Gypsy),
- Nord - Vikings, Northern Kingdoms,
- Breton - French and English, classic fantasy look,
- Argonian - Tribal, Aztec,
- Bosmer - classic wood elves to most extent,
- Altmer - classic tolkienesque elves,
- Akaviri - Asian, Japaneese.
Of course each of the above has it's own flavor and nuance but they mostly fit into what we know, be it real culture or literature, especially in regards to looks. Now try to classify Dunmer like that, with their strange homeland, crab shell o mooshroom architecture, strange religion and uncommon artstyle. See? That's why they're popular.
And according to some poll in other thread most people started their TES experience with with TESIII Morrowind, so nostalgia, I guess.
EDIT: Correcting mistakes, as always.
TheShadowScout wrote: »But then, there is bosmer and cannibalism
Silver_Strider wrote: »Morrowind Nostalgia
Strong Meta Contender
It let's people be racist and pass it off as RP
I'm sure there's more but I can't be bothered to think much at 1:15AM.
Silver_Strider wrote: »Morrowind Nostalgia
Strong Meta Contender
It let's people be racist and pass it off as RP
I'm sure there's more but I can't be bothered to think much at 1:15AM.
Its exactly this, especially that last point. People love letting their inner evil out when they believe they have a justified reason like Elder Scrolls not being real so technically my Racism toward cats and lizards isnt real.